I know redshirting is a really good thing for development and all that. But what does it do to a player as far as fire for the game having to sit out a year. Anybody know?
Redshirting?
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What do you mean by fire for the game? The player that redshirt usually goes onto the scout team. So, they are out there every single day at practice running around hitting their teammates and getting better by playing against the older players. So, they aren't entirely removed from the game and are just working out all the time. I know it isn't the same as actually being in the game, but that can also be a driving force that helps them to get better and stronger. Many of them, I believe, come to SEC schools and that is a big dose of reality. They think they can compete with anyone at 18 until they have to go against 23 year olds on a regular basis. Some will pout that they aren't good enough while others will use it as fuel.
RSing is a very positive thing for the vast majority of football players. Most guys can see after attending one practice/game that they need that year to become bigger, stronger, faster, etc. Plus it also helps in adjusting to school, time management and all that drama. The RS rule is one of the few things the NCAA has come up with that's good.
Certain positions should be redshirted, OL for example. Most OL, except for the exceptional prospect, aren't ready for the strength/quickness combination he will be facing in college, the same could be said for DL too but more of them seem to be college ready. A good RB should always play, if he is good he will be gone in 3 years because RBs only have so many carries in them.
But more to what you are asking, I don't know the percentages, but there are quite a few kids sign expecting to RS, and quite a few signing thinking there is no way they will RS because they are going to start. The latter group might have a tougher time adjusting to RSing and feel they made a mistake signing at wherever they signed. Bama redshirts high 4* guys all the time, maybe even a 5* if they have good depth at his position which is a real shocker to the kid I am sure.
I just wondered if it might be a little harder on the redshirts not getting any meaningful action. I know scout team is very important and they work all year but mentally is it tougher to come back to real game action I guess is what I'm trying to ask. I like your answers and I can see where it is probably easier on them than being buried on the depth chart.
I just read an article saying Bama will have NINETEEN five stars available next year, real difference makers like Couch was here (and probably even more 6.0s, you know, like their Heisman winner), the 6.0s (and other underrated players) will make several of those five stars sit on the bench a lot------for instance a position that has a five star soph beast coming off injury, the incoming top player at the position in 16, and the 17 class with TWO prospects in the top 25 in the nation overall at the position, with one of them the #3 prospect overall in the nation.
So at least one of those five stars has an uphill fight to start. Which is exactly what a lot of posters on here predicted would happen.
Wholesale red shirting just not as popular as it was 10years ago. Schnellenbergers "rule" was if you made second team you played, otherwise you red shirteded. I recall when JLS was forced to burn Elvis Dumerville's red shirt and I swear he sounded like he was going to cry.
Just a guess but I would say most of the teams I follow red shirt only about 2/3 to 3/4 of their FR class. Schools like UofL and UK will seldom (if ever) have a roster that keeps an exceptional FR on the bench for a full year Furthermore, you just know some guys have an "implicit promise" to play early as part of their recruiting agreement.
As grumpy notes OL is about the only exception to these rules. I have long maintained that starting a FR OL is a more often a sign of roster weakness rather than individual greatness (I.e., as a t-FR). JMO
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Just a guess but I would say most of the teams I follow red shirt only about 2/3 to 3/4 of their FR class. Schools like UofL and UK will seldom (if ever) have a roster that keeps an exceptional FR on the bench for a full year Furthermore, you just know some guys have an "implicit promise" to play early as part of their recruiting agreement.
As grumpy notes OL is about the only exception to these rules. I have long maintained that starting a FR OL is a more often a sign of roster weakness rather than individual greatness (I.e., as a t-FR). JMO
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Couple of years ago when Missouri was winning back to back SECE titles, a quick scan of their roster showed they had 70+ RSs which is probably an unprecedented number. That was Pinkel's plan, RS and develop. During that period the most RSs UK had was 17. I still hope UK can RS as many as possible especially both lines.
You are correct about Mizzou. They tried to RS practically everybody, and it worked. It will be interesting to see how Mizzou does going forward. RS and coaching continuity is important. Hopefully UK can start RS more players in general. I think they will now that they have more talented players on the field.
http://www.mutigers.com/roster.aspx?path=football
They have over 60 RS players on the roster for 2016. Some of those are walk-ons.
Does anybody have an updated list of UK's roster for 2016?
They have over 60 RS players on the roster for 2016. Some of those are walk-ons.
Does anybody have an updated list of UK's roster for 2016?