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wildcatsboston1984_rivals

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ThroughBlue said:
How many Americans die every year? Usually that number goes up from one year to the next except from 2019->2020

shouldn’t it be safe to assume that if we get 500k new deaths from a new virus that we would have a massive increase in death not just in this country but around the whole world? We didn’t.

what we did do is lump all respiratory illnesses into coronavirus and if someone died with coronavirus in their system we counted it as a death toward the tally. This is the first time in virus history we have recorded deaths like that.

how many people at any given time throughout history have a cold flu or pneumonia? Keep the cycles on the lab tests high enough (which is what we did) and you’ll get a sneezing fit to read as a positive
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Your assumption that we should be seeing a massive increase in deaths is a flawed one. Accidents (which includes vehicular deaths) was the #3 leading cause of death on 2019, at least in the US, and there was far less traveling than usual in 2020. Also, the flu was far less prevalent due to measures that were taken to reduce the spread of COVID, and flu/pneumonia was listed as the #9 cause of death in the USA in 2019.

And it’s also flawed because it’s not true. The number of deaths went up even with the seasonal flu not even being a blip on the radar.
 
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wildcatsboston1984 said:
there was far less traveling than usual in 2020.
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How in Ky?



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RunninRichie said:
there goes another thread.....



dearly sorry for your uncle HH. Hes in a better place looking down over your family now.
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Thank you Richie...and with his wife of 33 years. Glad they are together again, sorry they aren't with us though.

My intention with the thread wasn't for this, obviously :)
 
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bthaunert said:
Because you're wrong. Total Deaths in the US according to the CDC:

2018 - 2,831,826
2019 - 2,854,838
2020 - 2,877,601 after 48 weeks. Still 4 more weeks to count. That number will be well over 3 million. I see a number of 3,187,086 but I can't verify that.
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And since there were hardly any deaths from the virus b4 April, whatever the final excess number for 2020 is, that number needs to be divided by 0.75 it get its annualized impact.
 
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One thing is for certain, health officials will be studying the pandemic of 2020-21 for decades to see what we got right and what we got wrong for the next time it happens.

No. 1 on my wish list was to keep the schools open. It is awful to see businesses suffer and close, but eventually, they will reopen, maybe with new owners, but restaurants, bars, gyms will all reopen.

But if a child misses a year or two of school, you can't necessarily make that up. We need to figure out a way to do better next time.
 
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But if a child misses a year or two of school, you can't necessarily make that up. We need to figure out a way to do better next time.
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School issue was predominantly political, especially the last 6 months. Democrats ruined many lives w/ their school stance, much of which was due to the union$.
 
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cole854 said:
School issue was predominantly political, especially the last 6 months.
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I hear a lot of people say that, on a number of topics, but by "political", exactly what do you mean? Not trying to start an argument (in fact, I have sworn off political arguments on this site), but that is a catch all phrase that I would like to understand.
 
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Tskware said:
One thing is for certain, health officials will be studying the pandemic of 2020-21 for decades to see what we got right and what we got wrong for the next time it happens.

No. 1 on my wish list was to keep the schools open. It is awful to see businesses suffer and close, but eventually, they will reopen, maybe with new owners, but restaurants, bars, gyms will all reopen.

But if a child misses a year or two of school, you can't necessarily make that up. We need to figure out a way to do better next time.
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They will not all reopen. At some point, there may be as many restaurants and bars as existed one year ago, but many will not only have new owners but will be completely different places, often occupying the same space as the permanently closed places. With that said, I agree that the biggest negative as far as the closures is indeed the schools- closing schools, for as long as it happened, was the worst thing about the measures taken with the arguable exception of the absolute disregard of individual liberty, including, but not limited to, flagrant Constitutional violations.
 
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WildcatofNati said:
They will not all reopen. At some point, there may be as many restaurants and bars as existed one year ago, but many will not only have new owners but will be completely different places, often occupying the same space as the permanently closed places.
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More worried about gyms actually, with home exercise equipment being purchased by the truckload, I can see that industry taking a permanent hit. Not unlike movie theaters. OTOH, the golf industry BOOMED in 2020, so there were some positives as well.

As for the rest, while there are sure to be casualties, eating out and drinking booze have been around for 1000s of years and I doubt it goes out of style in our lifetime anyway.
 
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