Religious Thread
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All systems decay into entropy. It’s the only certainty in an uncertain existence. Which is why I believe the chances of their being a God are almost nil.
Man created religion to order his natural world. To explain things to himself that he didn’t or couldn’t understand: Why the Sun hung in the sky during the day and disappeared at night.. Why babies are born. Why do we die.
Like I said, you do you. Just don’t make anyone else follow along or live under it.
Man created religion to order his natural world. To explain things to himself that he didn’t or couldn’t understand: Why the Sun hung in the sky during the day and disappeared at night.. Why babies are born. Why do we die.
Like I said, you do you. Just don’t make anyone else follow along or live under it.
The same place that Zeus, Thor, Allah, Ra, and a couple thousand other gods came from. Man’s imagination.
People believe what they want to believe for the most part. But again, you have to explain how we got here, complex as we are.
Purely from a historical standpoint, I’ve always thought Jesus is better documented than say, Alexander the Great. It boils down to, do you believe in miracles? Life itself is a miracle for me, and also scientific
I’m proud to be a faithful Catholic. The church is firmly rooted in the Bible and is not unbiblical at all. The church as comprised of people have clearly committed wrongs in its history, but is guided by the Holy Spirit and the promise of Jesus that “the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it.”
The selling of indulgences was wrong, was essentially a local / regional problem and not an official universal church policy, and furthermore was done away with 400-500 years ago.
The inquisition… something I can’t defend, but again was predominant an issue confined mostly to Spain in the 1500s (?). The church has acknowledged this was wrong.
Unmarried priests…. Admittedly, there is nothing in Scripture that requires priests to be single and celibate. These became an official practice of the church about 1,000 years ago. Scripture states that a person can best serve the Lord in the single and unmarried state, which I can agree with and respect…. But on the other hand, I believe the fact that disputes over what was priest’s family property versus church property played a role in this policy change.
Crusades…. Muslims were abusing Christian pilgrims in the Holy Land, and were threatening conquest over Christian territories. Christians took the fight to them, but sadly were mostly unsuccessful.
Priests as intercessors to God… not sure what your critique is here(?)
Pedophilia – a terrible stain on the church’s legacy which has caused enormous damage and cause many people to lose their faith. Pedophilia is a scourge that is not limited to the Catholic faith
Worshipped pope… Totally false, our pope is the head of the church but is not worshipped…. Our current pope is especially not someone I would worship.
Peace
God is eternal as far as He is outside of time, He created time. All things that exist inside the realm of spacetime must have a beginning. Observable cosmology even traces this back to the "big bang".
That's your prerogative. It neither confirms nor negates the premise that there is a God though.
He is self existent. This is possible because He is outside of time and space. Matter resides in the realm of time and space so, without a creator where did matter come from?
For what it's worth, Christianity isn't supposed to be about the rituals associated with a religion, it's supposed to be about the development of a deep relationship with God and fellowship with other like minded believers.
The Big Bang theory was considered religious fiction for years until the continued expansion of the universe was confirmed. It was proposed by a Belgian priest.
On topic, modern corporate religion keeps reminding me of Matthew 23 - Whitewashed tombs full of dried bones.
On topic, modern corporate religion keeps reminding me of Matthew 23 - Whitewashed tombs full of dried bones.
Explanation is easy...just bc we don't know something doesn't mean there isn't an answer. Humans don't know everything there is to be known...we are constantly learning.
I mean, not even a hundred years ago something as simple as penicillin existed. Why do people have to assume there absolutely has to be an answer already as to why all of existence happened?
What we know for a fact is modern humans have existed for about 200,000 years...literally a fraction of a second in the scale of time earth has existed. We didn't even figure out how to make civilization until about 6,000 years ago, and didn't figure out how to industrialize less than 200 years ago. Canaaite religion gave way to ancient Israelite religion, which didn't become monotheistic until about 2600 years ago. So for almost 197,000 years we didn't think about any of this really in the context we do today. Dude waited a long time.
BTW, I have no issues with believers...just the ones that can't handle ppl not buying into it amd trying to lecture everybody. If it's your belief and you're sure it's right then why are you worried about anyone else?
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- To me, there has to be an ultimate source of everything else. I'll call that source God.
- I'm non-religious because I don't get the concept of worshipping God. I mean just living my life ought to be good enough since I have nothing to do with my existence.
This is a description of what you believe not an explanation of what will happen for certain.
No we don't, this is one assumption out of many.
There is no secular materialist explanation for the origin of matter, and there can't be because it's logically impossible for something (matter) to pop into existence from nothing.