REPORT: Oliver Luck Hired as Big 12 Consultant

[Buckaineer]

REPORT: Oliver Luck Hired as Big 12 Consultant​

Former West Virginia University Athletic Director Oliver Luck is back in college football

https://www.si.com/college/westvirginia/football/report-oliver-luck-hired-as-big-12-consultant

As the remaining Big 12 Conference schools try to navigate the latest change to the college football landscape after the University of Texas and Oklahoma University announced they were leaving the Big 12 for the Southeastern Conference (SEC), the Big 12 Conference hired former West Virginia Athletic Director Oliver Luck as a consultant on Monday according to Matt Mosley of ESPN Radio.

 

[Tylerite]

[thumbsup]

 

[Butler-eer]

They should hire him as commish.

 

[mountaineermaniac34]

I still think he is the next NFL commissioner.

 

[Buckaineer]

From the Kansas State camp:

From Fitz: Big 12 eyes options with Luck on its side​

https://247sports.com/college/kansa...-Kansas-State-football-Oliver-Luck-169548520/

Well it appears the Big 12 Conference is planning on survival now that the conference has hired former West Virginia athletics director and Commissioner of the XFL Oliver Luck to come on board as a consultant. The question is, what will he be consulting on?

 

[Buckaineer]

From the K State article:
excerpt:
It now seems the Big 12 is seriously beginning to consider expansion, and with Monday night's development of an Alliance being formed between the Big Ten, ACC and Pac-12, expansion may be the only option. (

 

[MichiganHerd]

From the K State article:
excerpt:
It now seems the Big 12 is seriously beginning to consider expansion, and with Monday night's development of an Alliance being formed between the Big Ten, ACC and Pac-12, expansion may be the only option. (

They took turns selecting available teams to join each of the conferences to get to 16. Kind of like a draft.

Pac XII drew 1st choice, and selected BYU.
B1G selected Kansas.
ACC selected Cincinnati.
Pac XII then went with Texas Tech.
B1G selected Oklahoma State. (completes their 16)
ACC selected UCF (completes their 16)
Pac XII went with Baylor.
Pac XII went with Kansas State (completes their 16)

 

[Tylerite]

I knew you were joking when your first sentence said the PAC selected byu.

 

[WVUALLEN]

Nothing like a good reorganization joke from fans of other schools.

 

[Buckaineer]

I knew you were joking when your first sentence said the PAC selected byu.

Fairly sure that if the BIG 12 reconstitutes with other programs Brigham Young will be one of them.

 

[Tylerite]

More breaking news

Fairly sure that if the BIG 12 reconstitutes with other programs Brigham Young will be one of them.

And WVU will be already on the way out.

 

[Buckaineer]

More breaking news

And WVU will be already on the way out.

You hope.

WVU is going to be in the BIG 12 for awhile, maybe longer. Its unclear at this point.
I have no idea. But if you are looking at available schools with strong athletics/academics,a solid fanbase etc. then BYU is certainly one of them more than some others.

 

[WVUALLEN]

BYU has no business being in Big 12-4=little 8.

 

[Buckaineer]

BYU has no business being in Big 12-4=little 8.

BYU is one of the top remaining brands out there- why would they not? Guessing if the remainder stay together theyll go after the biggest and best known brands they can.

 

[Tylerite]

You hope.

WVU is going to be in the BIG 12 for awhile, maybe longer. Its unclear at this point.
I have no idea. But if you are looking at available schools with strong athletics/academics,a solid fanbase etc. then BYU is certainly one of them more than some others.

That’s not what we are looking for

 

[Cuyahoga Falls Eers_rivals]

WVU's chances are better with Oliver in the mix. He bailed us out and got us into the Big 12. This is good news for WVU fans.

 

[TugRiveer]

funny none of you "insiders" seen this coming.....LOL...insiders........

 

[WVUALLEN]

BYU is one of the top remaining brands out there- why would they not? Guessing if the remainder stay together theyll go after the biggest and best known brands they can.

BYU is no brand. They're a religious cult. If BYU was all that they would have been picked up a long time ago.

 

[Rootmaster]

BYU is no brand. They're a religious cult. If BYU was all that they would have been picked up a long time ago.

All religions are cult like.

 

[WVUALLEN]

All religions are cult like.

In your opinion they are.

Doesn't change the fact BYU should not be welcomed .

 

[Buckaineer]

That’s not what we are looking for

First who is we?

Second, what you want --unless you run ESPN or FOX, doesn't really matter.

 

[Tylerite]

First who is we?

Second, what you want --unless you run ESPN or FOX, doesn't really matter.

Third, everything you say on here, doesn't really matter also.

 

[Rootmaster]

In your opinion they are.

Doesn't change the fact BYU should not be welcomed .

So why do you accuse Mormans of being cult like?

 

[Buckaineer]

Third, everything you say on here, doesn't really matter also.

I didn't say it did--but you seem to think it does.....hmmmm

 

[Tylerite]

I didn't say it did--but you seem to think it does.....hmmmm

Not the exact words, but your posts emphasize it, and you know it,...........or do you?

 

[Buckaineer]

Not the exact words, but your posts emphasize it, and you know it,...........or do you?

Simply not true- you like so many others attempt to libel me at every turn. Obviously all of you find great importance to my words anywhere on the internet as you attempt to push your agenda(s)

 

[westsiderSJHS77]

With a smaller TV deal, I doubt that they would stretch the conference out west and add more travel bills to the shrinking budget.

I am not saying anything bad against them other than their location.

 

[Tylerite]

Simply not true- you like so many others attempt to libel me at every turn. Obviously all of you find great importance to my words anywhere on the internet as you attempt to push your agenda(s)

Really, agenda? What agenda is that? Do you have an agenda? I know you like to define my words to fit your narrative. Sometimes you bring decent info, then sometimes you don't. Only "agenda" I have is to build up WVU and defend their brand.

 

[Buckaineer]

Really, agenda? What agenda is that? Do you have an agenda? I know you like to define my words to fit your narrative. Sometimes you bring decent info, then sometimes you don't. Only "agenda" I have is to build up WVU and defend their brand.

BYU anyone? Anti California rants just in case the PAc was interested?

Please.

 

[Tylerite]

BYU anyone? Anti California rants just in case the PAc was interested?

Please.

BYU hurts our brand, whether you or see it or not. Whether the “press” sees it or not.
Don’t know where you get anti California from.
Just said that it is well known the PAC has never beeen interested in religion led schools.

Anyway I’m done with responding to you about this because your agenda is out there whatever it may be.

 

[Buckaineer]

BYU hurts our brand, whether you or see it or not. Whether the “press” sees it or not.
Don’t know where you get anti California from.
Just said that it is well known the PAC has never beeen interested in religion led schools.

Anyway I’m done with responding to you about this because your agenda is out there whatever it may be.

All i said was- if the Big 12 schools stick as a league and expand, BYU will likely be high on an expansion list. Many out there seem to agree. WVU played BYU not long ago—didnt affect WVUs brand in any way.

 

[Butler-eer]

Not playing on Sun is a huge reason BYU isn't in a conference.

 

[WVUALLEN]

So why do you accuse Mormans of being cult like?

Mormons are a cult by definition. Systematic worship in a religious building is a cult thing for sure. Don't let your religion fall into that trap unless you're some kind of cult wannabe.

Christian churches can fall into this category of cult by simply following a set of so called directives that say we must do it this way and only this way.

Billy Graham answer on what is a cult... While some cults openly deny the Christian faith, others mimic Christian practices and actually claim to believe the Bible—although they deny some of its most important teachings.

Let me suggest three questions or guidelines you might find helpful in evaluating this group. First, what do they believe about the Bible? Is it alone the Word of God (as Christians affirm)—or do they add to it, or claim they alone have translated it correctly? Second, what do they believe about Jesus? Is He alone the divine Son of God, sent from Heaven to save us from our sins? Or do they deny this, or claim we must work to save ourselves? Third, what do they believe about other Christians? Do they claim that they, and they alone, have the truth—or do they rejoice that God is also at work elsewhere?

Morman faith is misleading and misguided. Christian churches can also become legalistic themselves instead of following.

 

[WVUALLEN]

All i said was- if the Big 12 schools stick as a league and expand, BYU will likely be high on an expansion list. Many out there seem to agree. WVU played BYU not long ago—didnt affect WVUs brand in any way.

WVU played BYU 5 years ago. It's been the only game between the 2 schools. Conference has to see to BYU set of rules and regulations for them to join. No reason for the remaining teams to listen to an overinflated ND wannabees of BYU.

BYU has wanted to be member of Big 12 for years and always turned down. Letting them in now shows how desperate these teams would be.

Something you didn't know:
Big 12 had already started to consider the possibility of adding UCF, Houston, Cincinnati and/or BYU to the league.

According to ESPN, even if Texas and Oklahoma didn’t leave the Big 12, the league is willing to consider expansion. Now that Texas and OU are leaving speculation is the following would be members.

BYU, Boise State, Cincinnati, Memphis, UCF and SMU.

Before knowing the exit was coming:
Conference officials scratched the surface on discussions of what the Big 12 might do and one source said that included looking into whether there were other Power 5 programs that might want to join, or if schools like UCF, Houston, Cincinnati or BYU might make good additions. There was some appetite in the meeting for possibly adding two teams even before OU and Texas decided to leave.

None of those conversations gained significant traction though.

 

[Rootmaster]

BYU hurts our brand, whether you or see it or not. Whether the “press” sees it or not.
Don’t know where you get anti California from.
Just said that it is well known the PAC has never beeen interested in religion led schools.

Anyway I’m done with responding to you about this because your agenda is out there whatever it may be.

So you are anti Christian? Good to know.

 

[Rootmaster]

Mormons are a cult by definition. Systematic worship in a religious building is a cult thing for sure. Don't let your religion fall into that trap unless you're some kind of cult wannabe.

Christian churches can fall into this category of cult by simply following a set of so called directives that say we must do it this way and only this way.

Billy Graham answer on what is a cult... While some cults openly deny the Christian faith, others mimic Christian practices and actually claim to believe the Bible—although they deny some of its most important teachings.

Let me suggest three questions or guidelines you might find helpful in evaluating this group. First, what do they believe about the Bible? Is it alone the Word of God (as Christians affirm)—or do they add to it, or claim they alone have translated it correctly? Second, what do they believe about Jesus? Is He alone the divine Son of God, sent from Heaven to save us from our sins? Or do they deny this, or claim we must work to save ourselves? Third, what do they believe about other Christians? Do they claim that they, and they alone, have the truth—or do they rejoice that God is also at work elsewhere?

Morman faith is misleading and misguided. Christian churches can also become legalistic themselves instead of following.

Nice job of showing off your Google search skills to fit your prejudices but you sound like someone who has never been inside a church.

 

[MichiganHerd]

I knew you were joking when your first sentence said the PAC selected byu.

To avoid any confusion moving forward, I intend to label some of my post with the sarcasm tag. Used to be, one had to post in brown colored type. Will have to check with Allen to see if that's still the case or not.

But, BYU would be the best team out there for the taking. Solid in most sports, and very decent facilities. If I were the Big XII boss, I would definitely be trying to get them to join the conference. I know some of you are prejudiced against Mormons, but not me. You already have two religious institutions, so why not make it a trio.

 

[Tylerite]

So you are anti Christian? Good to know.

I thought I blocked you but this post still came up.
No I am not anti-Christian. I'm actually been a born again Christian since 1978.' How you come to that conclusion is so ignorant.

 

[Tylerite]

To avoid any confusion moving forward, I intend to label some of my post with the sarcasm tag. Used to be, one had to post in brown colored type. Will have to check with Allen to see if that's still the case or not.

But, BYU would be the best team out there for the taking. Solid in most sports, and very decent facilities. If I were the Big XII boss, I would definitely be trying to get them to join the conference. I know some of you are prejudiced against Mormons, but not me. You already have two religious institutions, so why not make it a trio.

BYU is like ND, or least tries to be, they had never been a good conference member. If the Big8 stays afloat, it really doesn't matter who they add in regards to money, because none will increase our payouts. So with that, there is no reason to expand by going further west, so coming to the eastern time zone with a few central time zone schools is the best path forward for the league and for WVU.

 

[MichiganHerd]

BYU is like ND, or least tries to be, they had never been a good conference member. If the Big8 stays afloat, it really doesn't matter who they add in regards to money, because none will increase our payouts. So with that, there is no reason to expand and further west, and coming to the eastern time zone with a few central time zone schools is the best path forward for the league and for WVU.

I doubt the league membership really is concerned over appeasing WVU, just to be honest. Guessing at some point, assuming the remaining P5 conferences don't expand, and all eight teams stay connected, you'll be taking in AAC teams. However, I'm thinking ultimately, there's a better chance the Big XII will no longer exist, and a few teams will be absorbed into the P5 conferences, and others likely to join the AAC and/or MWC.