That interview was pretty pathetic actually, and he contradicted himself in it. First off, the chief MO as Mayo Clinic is certainly getting kickbacks from vaccines and drug companies. But the thing is, he clearly admitted that what killed people during the Spanish Flu was bacterial pneumonia, which they had no medicine for. So if they just had a real antibiotic pill back then, it sounds like very few people would've died. We have antibiotics now, btw. He never said anything clear and concise about natural immunity being achieved or not. He did however say that despite there being no treatments at all for Spanish Flu, it did in fact just go away. Hmmm. Natural immunity? Sounds like it to me. He didnt prove it or disprove it or even close.
This is one man, working for a very large medical facility who gave no real indication one way or the other. I dont think this article does anything to prove anything at all actually. It was a pretty interested read, however, his push for the vaccines came off as very scripted and paid for. Sorry, but this is a strike to me. There are virologist and immunologist all over the world who disagree with this medical doctor.
What's happening in Sweden right now? They elected to go with herd immunity from the beginning. I'm not seeing where they are being affected really bad. In fact, as of August 3rd, the delta variant (whch was there before it was here) is causing very little deaths and issues there despite being maskless and not locked down ever.
Try again. My mind is open but keep in mind that Israel is one of the most vaccinated countries in the world, and they are having some issues, especially from those who have ben vaccinated. This is called "empirical evidence". In other words, wysiwyg = what you see is what you get.