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Here is another true story. Rudi Guliani, an 80+ year old alcoholic and chronic long time cigar smoker got covid. Not good, right? High risk for sure. He went into the hospital and was given a theraputic drug that we cant get, and the next day he said he hadnt felt that good in 20 years and was totally recovered. There were no vaccines at that time.
Here’s another, a man with medical conditions got the vaccine and developed myrocarditis which is weakening him severely and probably worse.
 

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You sure he got covid or was he just telling one of his many false claims? Don't trust a word from that man!!!
He tested positive for Covid. Maybe it was a false positive? It was all over CNN, MSNBC, etc, etc. Lots and lots of democrats wished him death on Twitter over it, and I saw that with my own eyes.
 

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Here’s another, a man with medical conditions got the vaccine and developed myrocarditis which is weakening him severely and probably worse.
Thats terrible!! I have another to share. A totally healthy 23 year old Irish soccer player dropped dead suddenly only a couple of days after getting his second dose of the vaccine.
 

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So all I’m saying is that for those people it is not an easy decision. Not that it is a right or wrong one.
 

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But why have so many died from the virus if they thought their immunity would survive? If this is only a higher boost of flu shot why did they wait a year and half before giving shots?
Well why have 99.8% of people who got covid survived? I know in 2018 the flu killed 80,000 people and was barely on the news. My grandpa was much much sicker from that virus than he was this past year. I personally know people who work in hospitals and witnessed them putting covid as cause of death when it wasnt. There have been whistleblowers and reports of that all over the place.

How about this. In the US an average of 250,000 people die every year from accidental deaths created by doctors. In fact there are many studies that show that when doctors go on strike, mortality rates drop, sometimes up to 35% until the doctors come back to work. Find more info here https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18849101/
 

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That would be 1918 lol.
The people who survived the Spanish Flu still had natural immunity decades later. Same with SARS and every other major virus, ever, until now. Natural immunity is the best and fastest way to herd immunity, but the problem is, no one makes billions of dollars of natural immunity.
 

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So I know at least 150-200 people who got covid. People I actually know who I either see in person, or shared their story via facebook from my friend list. I know 1 man who died of covid. He had a few conditions including heart disease and was elderly. He used to attend my moms church. How many people do you all know who died from covid vs survived it?
 

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Right wing lies and propaganda spread to keep wealthy hate mongering narcissists in power and kill the dopes that blindly follow.

All for the worship of antichrist Trump and his minions.

just damn sad watching people killing themselves and willingly infecting and killing others
 

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Right wing lies and propaganda spread to keep wealthy hate mongering narcissists in power and kill the dopes that blindly follow.

All for the worship of antichrist Trump and his minions.

just damn sad watching people killing themselves and willingly infecting and killing others
I'm an independent so I am a moderate in a way. But I will say this, Trump had religious leaders that he went to and consulted with. So calling him that is asinine.
 

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Right wing lies and propaganda spread to keep wealthy hate mongering narcissists in power and kill the dopes that blindly follow.

All for the worship of antichrist Trump and his minions.

just damn sad watching people killing themselves and willingly infecting and killing others
Find a busy street. Lay down. Let the traffic flow.
 

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Right wing lies and propaganda spread to keep wealthy hate mongering narcissists in power and kill the dopes that blindly follow.

All for the worship of antichrist Trump and his minions.

just damn sad watching people killing themselves and willingly infecting and killing others
Hate to burst your little bubble mind but nobody knows who the Antichrist is for now. We know it's not Biden he's too freaking stupid.

Trump does not meet international criteria to be the Antichrist. Trump does not meet the diplomat criteria. Does Trump meet the instability criterion? Let’s say the results are mixed. So the bulk of the evidence seems to suggest that Trump is not the Antichrist.

However, I will admit that Trump has charisma of a sort. He is a professional entertainer, and he became president, so some people are clearly persuaded by his rhetoric.

So the bulk of the evidence seems to suggest that Trump is not the Antichrist.
 

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The people who survived the Spanish Flu still had natural immunity decades later. Same with SARS and every other major virus, ever, until now. Natural immunity is the best and fastest way to herd immunity, but the problem is, no one makes billions of dollars of natural immunity.
From WebMD on Spanish flu relating to Covid. Herd immunity is a false presumption.


A lot of people who got the flu got a secondary bacterial pneumonia. And that's what killed them, because there was no medication for that.

Herd immunity was never developed as a population kind of a measure when a virus spreads through a community. It was based on active immunity, giving people immunizations, giving lots of children immunizations, for example, for measles, mumps. And when you immunized actively, 90 or more of percent of a community, then when that infection came into that community, subsequently, it would not spread.

The notion of letting it rip and letting a lot of people get it-- first of all, you would never get levels of 60% to 90%, which is what people are estimating you would need. 20% simply wouldn't do it. And what is the point of living in the 21st century, if we're relying on 13th century methodologies of letting it spread throughout a community to protect us? Not to mention the incredible expense of taking care of people and the terrible tragedy of those who would die.
 

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From WebMD on Spanish flu relating to Covid. Herd immunity is a false presumption.


A lot of people who got the flu got a secondary bacterial pneumonia. And that's what killed them, because there was no medication for that.

Herd immunity was never developed as a population kind of a measure when a virus spreads through a community. It was based on active immunity, giving people immunizations, giving lots of children immunizations, for example, for measles, mumps. And when you immunized actively, 90 or more of percent of a community, then when that infection came into that community, subsequently, it would not spread.

The notion of letting it rip and letting a lot of people get it-- first of all, you would never get levels of 60% to 90%, which is what people are estimating you would need. 20% simply wouldn't do it. And what is the point of living in the 21st century, if we're relying on 13th century methodologies of letting it spread throughout a community to protect us? Not to mention the incredible expense of taking care of people and the terrible tragedy of those who would die.

That interview was pretty pathetic actually, and he contradicted himself in it. First off, the chief MO as Mayo Clinic is certainly getting kickbacks from vaccines and drug companies. But the thing is, he clearly admitted that what killed people during the Spanish Flu was bacterial pneumonia, which they had no medicine for. So if they just had a real antibiotic pill back then, it sounds like very few people would've died. We have antibiotics now, btw. He never said anything clear and concise about natural immunity being achieved or not. He did however say that despite there being no treatments at all for Spanish Flu, it did in fact just go away. Hmmm. Natural immunity? Sounds like it to me. He didnt prove it or disprove it or even close.

This is one man, working for a very large medical facility who gave no real indication one way or the other. I dont think this article does anything to prove anything at all actually. It was a pretty interested read, however, his push for the vaccines came off as very scripted and paid for. Sorry, but this is a strike to me. There are virologist and immunologist all over the world who disagree with this medical doctor.

What's happening in Sweden right now? They elected to go with herd immunity from the beginning. I'm not seeing where they are being affected really bad. In fact, as of August 3rd, the delta variant (whch was there before it was here) is causing very little deaths and issues there despite being maskless and not locked down ever.

Try again. My mind is open but keep in mind that Israel is one of the most vaccinated countries in the world, and they are having some issues, especially from those who have ben vaccinated. This is called "empirical evidence". In other words, wysiwyg = what you see is what you get.
 
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This begs the question, though, deedoubleyou: If the results of recent studies are valid, then do you take the risk of catching the virus with no protection, in which case you may become very sick or die, or do you get the jab? The answer to this question might be dependent upon your age and health.
 

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This begs the question, though, deedoubleyou: If the results of recent studies are valid, then do you take the risk of catching the virus with no protection, in which case you may become very sick or die, or do you get the jab? The answer to this question might be dependent upon your age and health.

My answer to that is the recent data proves even more that it should be up to each individual to decide for themselves, and not be forced into anything. Obviously those who have had covid and recovered, it would seem to be a no brainer. For those who havent had it yet, it would be something to consider for sure. I'm just against force and mandates, and this data is making it look more and more silly to force them upon people.
 

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So the inventor of the novel gene therapy vaccine technology has some pretty big things to say on this topic. I would consider the man who invented the technology behind the vaccines we are using and spent his entire adult life developing vaccines an expert on the topic. Right? Basically, this could turn out that the more people vaccinated with these "leaky" vaccines, the worse this thing will get and the more mutations we will have to deal with. That doesnt sound good at all. According to him, if you are not in the high risk category for death, you really should not get a vaccine. And on top of that, there are lots of drugs that have been proven to treat people and prevent death in the event of an infection, but things are so politicized, not all doctors are willing to use these drugs to treat an active covid case, which is total insanity. But these vaccines might end up being the root cause behind a constant flow of mutations, that the entire world has to learn to live with. Imagine that?
 

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No offense to anyone, but do you guys know the football season starts Saturday at 3:30? Yay! I'm being facetious but you get my point. Would you argue with a deaf man? In 68 yrs I have learned to pick my battles. Here is not worth it, there are no winners.
 

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That interview was pretty pathetic actually, and he contradicted himself in it. First off, the chief MO as Mayo Clinic is certainly getting kickbacks from vaccines and drug companies. But the thing is, he clearly admitted that what killed people during the Spanish Flu was bacterial pneumonia, which they had no medicine for. So if they just had a real antibiotic pill back then, it sounds like very few people would've died. We have antibiotics now, btw. He never said anything clear and concise about natural immunity being achieved or not. He did however say that despite there being no treatments at all for Spanish Flu, it did in fact just go away. Hmmm. Natural immunity? Sounds like it to me. He didnt prove it or disprove it or even close.

This is one man, working for a very large medical facility who gave no real indication one way or the other. I dont think this article does anything to prove anything at all actually. It was a pretty interested read, however, his push for the vaccines came off as very scripted and paid for. Sorry, but this is a strike to me. There are virologist and immunologist all over the world who disagree with this medical doctor.

What's happening in Sweden right now? They elected to go with herd immunity from the beginning. I'm not seeing where they are being affected really bad. In fact, as of August 3rd, the delta variant (whch was there before it was here) is causing very little deaths and issues there despite being maskless and not locked down ever.

Try again. My mind is open but keep in mind that Israel is one of the most vaccinated countries in the world, and they are having some issues, especially from those who have ben vaccinated. This is called "empirical evidence". In other words, wysiwyg = what you see is what you get.
Go ahead and walk through a crowded room of those infected let them sneeze on you touch your face so you can start your immune theory and see how it turns out.
 

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Go ahead and walk through a crowded room of those infected let them sneeze on you touch your face so you can start your immune theory and see how it turns out.

Is this what they call liberal logic lol? Who does that, even before covid, even with just the regular flu and cold? Do you know how to use common sense at all? I get it though. you dont really have a pot to piss on for this topic right now and the vaccine push theory is being completely destroyed by the actual raw data coming out every day, so you just say things that dont make sense at all since that's the only ammo you have. S'all good.