Not to pick on you, or your post, specifically, but you’re making the same tired arguments & misplaced over-valuation of the Nebraska football program as many, many Husker fans still do. The majority of Power 4 teams have good facilities, decent fan support, etc. To just assume/believe that Nebraska should consistently be better than the likes of a Penn State, Iowa, or even Minnesota because of Nebraska’s supposed “advantages” including your once proud tradition/history…isn’t realistic. A good / seasoned coaching staff along with smart / capable recruiting, and strategic portal pickups that don’t clash with a team’s existing culture is ultimately the key difference in having a winning program. I don’t think Rhule is a bad coach, but not sure his staff has been that capable? Perhaps the recent changes he made will pan out?
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We are a top 10 athletic dept by valuation. Worth over $1B.
perhaps your goat keistering, chromosome missing ilk buy this cope, but nobody’s “overvaluing” NU
sorry again to have cucked you and every iowa fan into permanent oblivion by achieving something you’ve convinced yourselves is not possible x5
No offense, but you are a giant pussyfart.
This thread. Two Iowa trolls and a bunch of whiny entitled brats who want their candy NOW damnit.
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So, how’s all that money helped Nebraska football the last 10 - 15years? I guess it’s helped with all your coaching buyouts. My point still stands…if you don’t hire the right/capable coaching staff and smartly recruit/obtain players in the portal…all that money means diddly. Players these days and most fans under age 50- 55 don’t remember Nebraska’s “glory days” so just stop with the tradition/history BS. I do look forward to watching Utah run all over Nebraska’s defense.
By “over-valuing” I meant the Nebraska media and much of your fanbase. Nebraska always wins the offseason championship!
Age 50?
how long ago do you think 1997 was, mongoloid?
we had a Heisman winner in 2001. Same year we also played for a national title.
I love these quotes by Rhule
I understand people’s frustrations and things like that,” Rhule said. “But if anyone ever just understood what we walked into, they’d be amazed at what we’ve done behind the scenes.”
“I’ve had to do a lot of that stuff because someone else didn’t do it,” Rhule said. “I shouldn’t have had to do it. Some people take over programs; they don’t have to do that. We had to do a lot of stuff.”
I understand people’s frustrations and things like that,” Rhule said. “But if anyone ever just understood what we walked into, they’d be amazed at what we’ve done behind the scenes.”
“I’ve had to do a lot of that stuff because someone else didn’t do it,” Rhule said. “I shouldn’t have had to do it. Some people take over programs; they don’t have to do that. We had to do a lot of stuff.”
I forgot the best part:
“Now I get to be more involved with the football,” he said, seemingly noting much of the foundational work has already been done.
It’s reassuring to hear that Matt has now completed most of the heavy lifting.
Frost deserves credit for not recruiting Railoa
If he really said that he should be fired immediately
The lack of self-awareness here by Rhule is beyond staggering, and yet not the least but surprising.
Dannen, someone, needs to jerk Rhule aside by the ear and tell him: Matt, nobody gives a ****.
So 25 years ago we fell into the NC and got boat raced. Got it.
the guys point is valid.
Lotta truth in these takes. Coming from someone who still isn't out on HCMR yet you make some great points.
Holla
Was it true is my question?
If so I'm not sure anyone should be offended...is what it is.
Holla
The self-proclaimed "program builder" now openly lamenting having to do the work of building a program.
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Tom Osborne turned the program into one big ***** for the big ten. Fans often tout the money, but I agree, it hasn't made a difference except for the grift that comes along with mega expensive stadium projects. The cash cow is dying off along with the fan base.
We have not been competitive for a long time, that may have been a more fair statement. I appreciate the efforts of all who have worked to improve Husker Football, they all wanted it to succeed. Why would you attack the program you are leading?
With this sales pitch to recruits - lookout college football!!!
I guess I did not realize McGowens was a 5 Star recruit. Williams and Gary prior to this year and now Sandfort and Mast are more impactful players for the Huskers than McGowens. What was McGowens go-to shot? I never could figure it out.
The biggest grift hasn't even been the coaches here. A few participated in it, but not all went along happily. There are people at every single position around the program besides the coaching staff, from the regents on down, who haven't been doing whatever it takes to win. They don't care about winning per se, as long as fans keep the business profitable. That is the grift and it has endured ever since TO retired because the fans are loyal to a fault. Sometimes the coaches end up being the scapegoats and the grifters stay while the coaches get replaced with a new whipping boy. Rhule seemed like he was figuring out the politics with those folks, which nobody before him was able to do, but now he has the fans turning on him and it may be too little too late.
I think when 20-25 years pass its probably time to come to grips with your reality and start resetting expectations. Iowa is Nebraska's ceiling. I mean' when you lose 9 out of 10 to those guys and you lose 6 in a row to Minnesota and you're still sitting around thinking your a blue blood you'll never get any enjoyment out of this because your expectations are so out of whack
This is coming from a fan of a program that was high and mighty for 60 years about the leather helmet era
just to clarify
do us all a favor: shut the fuckk up, enjoy your Hanukkah and your coaching search
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The fall began when Eichorst fired Pelini, so it’s been a decade of bad hires of head coaches and few lame AD’s.
This has taken a toll on us not being successful like we were from 1960’s to 2010’s In fact this has been the worse decade since the 1950’s.
Blue blood is made through history not just 10-20 years and Nebraska is one of 9 schools who have 900+ all time wins and 5 Unbeaten National championships.
We were mediocre before we left for the B1G. The B1G made it more obvious and Frost made us consistently awful.
Pelini won 9-10 games and had Nebraska rated 5 of his 7 years.
So if your calling this mediocre that is pretty much sums up what Ferentz has done, except winning one New Years6 bowl game.
First of all Ruhle is not going anywhere. Our idiot AD saw to that. With a buyout in excess of 70 million dollars, he will be here at least another 4 years. Donors do not have the stomach and NU does not have the resources to buy him out. He will not quit with that kind of bankroll on the table. So like him or not, he will be here.
As for the rebuild vs reset BS, I could care less what you call it. It has been bad football. Poor player development. I do not buy the BS about 3 and 4 year rebuilds, tell that shite to Cig. If this was a legitimate rebuild starting in year one, we would not have seen blow out losses in year 3. Now that the heat is on he is being more hands on with coaching the D line. Optics. Part of the usual propaganda we see every year, at some point. He should have been hands on from DAY ONE here. Unless and until we actually start to see player development, players getting better every year, players being drafted, better results on the field against legitimate B1G teams, then all this other talk means nothing. We have to stop the cycle of some players going backward performance wise. We have not addressed the S & C program. Ruhle has had every possible tool and resource at his disposal since he has been here. 19-18 after 3 years, being paid 1 million per win, is just sub standard for NU or any other serious program. Strip away the cupcake wins the first three games of each year and the record is telling.
My hope is the new staff hires will work out. And Matt will commit to being hands on, demand accountability from his staff, and be a lot smarter about bringing in players from the portal who can contribute. Right now it appears to me like the program is just trying to put out fires.
As for the rebuild vs reset BS, I could care less what you call it. It has been bad football. Poor player development. I do not buy the BS about 3 and 4 year rebuilds, tell that shite to Cig. If this was a legitimate rebuild starting in year one, we would not have seen blow out losses in year 3. Now that the heat is on he is being more hands on with coaching the D line. Optics. Part of the usual propaganda we see every year, at some point. He should have been hands on from DAY ONE here. Unless and until we actually start to see player development, players getting better every year, players being drafted, better results on the field against legitimate B1G teams, then all this other talk means nothing. We have to stop the cycle of some players going backward performance wise. We have not addressed the S & C program. Ruhle has had every possible tool and resource at his disposal since he has been here. 19-18 after 3 years, being paid 1 million per win, is just sub standard for NU or any other serious program. Strip away the cupcake wins the first three games of each year and the record is telling.
My hope is the new staff hires will work out. And Matt will commit to being hands on, demand accountability from his staff, and be a lot smarter about bringing in players from the portal who can contribute. Right now it appears to me like the program is just trying to put out fires.
If we review the first four games of the 2022 season - Lost to a 1-win team, beat a 1AA team while struggling mightily in the first half, lost to a Sunbelt team because we couldn't keep them out of the endzone and got boat raced at home by an OU team that finished 6-7. The next week after a win at Indiana, Bill Busch said the goal of the defense in that game was to get lined up correctly. Those four games were the natural end point for a program that featured increasingly sloppy play during Frost's tenure. That was a degraded roster that was not being prepared to play to win. Not even mediocre.
Some of us are so busy blaming Rhule that we are totally willing to memory hole the Frost years.
I am very much coming around to this thinking that I bolded above. Seems we continue to strike out on competent AD's as well as competent head coaches.
The narrative is changing. When he got he he praised the work of Frost and the kids they had.
Now? Seriously? Now? Stop being a little B1+ch. last 9 years of coaching and the dude, has 1 really winning season but sure. It’s not our fault.
Just cause you like to be a cuck/whimp who is ok with being pushed around doesn’t make us all that way. Now do you have to ask your wife’s boyfriend for permission to use the internet or does he just let you when you want?