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Warren Buffett has no interest in Nebraska football. Never has. Never will. And to be honest, anyone funding athletic departments with private donations for any use is doing nothing but engaging in a very expensive hobby. It’s not an investment in any way, shape or form. It’s definitely not charity. You can categorize right next to owning a private jet, yacht or any other gigantic waste of money done simply for the enjoyment of the person with money. Their money would be better spent owning a pro team, as that can actually generate a return on the money. Nebraska or 1890 is never going to give a penny back to the donor.

See Mark Cuban and what's happening at Indiana right now. Cuban is a self admitted jock sniffing sports geek who actually has owned a pro team. Pretty much the opposite of Buffett.
 
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dinglefritz

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I think our administration is serious about winning, they’re just completely incompetent and have no clue how to do it.
I don’t believe Dannen is ignorant about what it takes to win. HOWEVER he inherited a coach from Trev who is winning more games than the golden boy he replaced. He’s really not in any position to rock the boat. At this point he’s just praying Rhule doesn’t poop his pants to end the season or he (Dannen) might be job hunting. I have a very hard time believing that this extension was done without seeking the opinion of the power brokers.
 

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I’ve never understood why casual fans give a **** about contract extensions and money? It’s not ours. NU has never “run out” of money. We’re not mismanaged as an athletic department like Wisconsin or Florida state, who are stuck due to big buyouts. So who cares?
Wrong.
 
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It has been clear for years that Nebraska will never be elite again. We are climbing and scratching to elevate ourselves to the likes of Minnesota and Iowa. And that is where we will stay.

Loser programs have always had fan bases over the years and Nebraska will be no different. We will cheer and hope the best each year for the group of misfits get thrown onto the field and kicked around by half the conference, but we will still hope for the best and cheer them on. That’s what fans do.
Okay. Now run on back to your Iowa board.
 

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As the head football coach for the University of Nebraska–Lincoln, Matt Rhule is considered a state employee. The University of Nebraska–Lincoln is a public, state-funded institution, and its employees, including athletic staff, are state employees.
And our tax dollars don’t actually pay his salary.
 
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Where do you honestly think Nebraska falls on the pecking order for coaches when Penn St, Florida, Auburn, LSU, Arkansas, UCLA, VA Tech, Okie St. and possibly FSU all looking for HC's? You have a guy right now building your program from the ground up. Great idea to lock him up long term IMO.
The question for me is whether or not it had to be Matt Rhule? Could a lower tier coach willing to work for a fourth the money or a heavily incentive based contract get the same results? There a lot of young rising coaches or P4 assistants from successful programs who would give a testicle to have this job. Time will tell if Rhule was the right move and all we can do is wait and see.
 
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I’ve never understood why casual fans give a **** about contract extensions and money? It’s not ours. NU has never “run out” of money. We’re not mismanaged as an athletic department like Wisconsin or Florida state, who are stuck due to big buyouts. So who cares?
Backing up the Brinks Truck to reward mediocre results just leads to more mediocre results. Let Rhule earn his extension the way Cignetti did, instead of just getting taken for a ride by his agent.
 
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I don’t believe Dannen is ignorant about what it takes to win. HOWEVER he inherited a coach from Trev who is winning more games than the golden boy he replaced. He’s really not in any position to rock the boat. At this point he’s just praying Rhule doesn’t poop his pants to end the season or he (Dannen) might be job hunting. I have a very hard time believing that this extension was done without seeking the opinion of the power brokers.

I think it should be noted that Trev did not hire Mike Elko at aTm. Not that it really matters to your point, but it's not like people can say, look what Trev has done with aTm, at least as far as hiring head football coaches goes.
 
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Backing up the Brinks Truck to reward mediocre results just leads to more mediocre results. Let Rhule earn his extension the way Cignetti did, instead of just getting taken for a ride by his agent.
Cig got an extension because his name was coming up for other jobs. Same as Rhule. If Nebraska wants Indiana results, we have to start paying for it. We aren’t.
 

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Can you elaborate? Maybe cite some specific examples? Where am I wrong? Or are you uninterested in actually discussing things and think we should all just go along with you and your self proclaimed genius level IQ?

Not really my argument, but it does stand to reason that the tens of millions of dollars we've wasted on big buyouts could be used for other aspects of the program, had that money not been wasted on big buyouts. Regardless of where that money comes from.

I'm guessing that's what he's getting at anyway. Only reason I could think that a casual fan would give a flip. Although it does seem like a limitless supply of cash when it comes to college football, that's actually not the case. But, yeah, your point stands. Couch cushion money for these big schools for the most part, so who gives crap?
 

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The question for me is whether or not it had to be Matt Rhule? Could a lower tier coach willing to work for a fourth the money or a heavily incentive based contract get the same results? There a lot of young rising coaches or P4 assistants from successful programs who would give a testicle to have this job. Time will tell if Rhule was the right move and all we can do is wait and see.
Brad Spencer of North Central. Two Natty's in 3 years and will have a 3rd this year.
 

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Yet another pants-down pilfering of the NU treasury facilitated by an asleep-at-the-wheel, rubber-stamp AD.

This should age REAL well after USC drops trou, squats and pinches out a steaming 50-burger on Tom Osborne field this Saturday evening. More like a brown-out.

Rhule HAD a contract. If anything, the conversation should be about lowering the buyout against the backdrop of the 24-6 pant-shitting vs. a hockey school in the magical mystical year 3. Why this program is hell-bent on funding mediocrity I will never understand. But in the end, we ALWAYS deserve what we tolerate.

NU athletics is a ponzi scheme that Madoff could be proud of. Meanwhile, Indy-*******-ana is #2 in the nation.
 
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Where do you honestly think Nebraska falls on the pecking order for coaches when Penn St, Florida, Auburn, LSU, Arkansas, UCLA, VA Tech, Okie St. and possibly FSU all looking for HC's? You have a guy right now building your program from the ground up. Great idea to lock him up long term IMO.

Today's world is about facilities and NIL money. I'd say Nebraska is very high on that list.
 
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Well all points lead to Rhule sticking around so I'll eat a little crow, sorry OP. I do have a feeling Rhule either had a feeling he wasn't a viable candidate for the job at PSU and by burning bridges at Nebraska he would have been committing future coaching suicide. It would have been one thing to get out of college football entirely to pursue other endeavors but to screw not just a school but entire state is quite a another matter.
 

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Not really my argument, but it does stand to reason that the tens of millions of dollars we've wasted on big buyouts could be used for other aspects of the program, had that money not been wasted on big buyouts. Regardless of where that money comes from.

I'm guessing that's what he's getting at anyway. Only reason I could think that a casual fan would give a flip. Although it does seem like a limitless supply of cash when it comes to college football, that's actually not the case. But, yeah, your point stands. Couch cushion money for these big schools for the most part, so who gives crap?
The money isn’t limitless. I agree there. But what is the department missing that would help it succeed? The athletic department can’t directly pay NIL. If we need donors to pay buyouts, maybe there’s less for NIL but it doesn’t seem like that is the issue. Plus, the extension doesn’t matter nearly as much as the buyout details. Which none of us know. What if we extended him by 5 years but reduced our buyout liability? Then are the people who contribute nothing to the pot still upset about the extension? All the extension does is try to maintain stability in the program. Which in my opinion is key to us getting out of the basement. We can’t afford to lose recruiting classes, change schemes and coaching staffs every 3 years. It’s been killing us for 20 years.
 

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It’s most likely that after the Minnesota loss and close game against NW, Kraft told him he was no longer being considered so Rhule had to strike an extension while the iron was still hot.
 
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Rewarding mediocrity is one of the last steps to becoming a happy-to-go-bowling football program. See Minnesota and Iowa. Stupid decision to extend him. His only upside is that he is a good spokesman and decent recruiter. His in-game decisions are suspect, his coaching hires are extremely hit or miss, and his performance against good teams is abysmal.

But here we are! Rewarding a coach who got manhandled by Minnesota and has barely beat or lost to three freshman QBs this year. You know, the same excuse we used last year for losing games.
 

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This is a good question but I really don't think it is about the pecking order so much as it is just hiring the right guy.

Cigs was not on anyones pecking order...

Any of these Major Team openings that takes a chance on a Cignetti type coach is going to get Royally Roasted until that Hire proves succesful... the same way PSU will if they still go after Rhule... you're correct, it's about hiring the right guy, the fanbase & Media however only sees what's in front of them so perception in reality and as such it's going to make for interesting news bites.... the only ones winning at the moment are sports reporters
 
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Cig got an extension because his name was coming up for other jobs. Same as Rhule. If Nebraska wants Indiana results, we have to start paying for it. We aren’t.
That's odd. Seems like Indiana only paid for those results once they actually happened.

Cignetti got paid because he's actually winning. Rhule has every opportunity to earn his extension by winning as well. But why do that, when you can just have your agent talk gullible fans into breaking open the piggy bank?
 
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Any of these Major Team openings that takes a chance on a Cignetti type coach is going to get Royally Roasted until that Hire proves succesful... the same way PSU will if they still go after Rhule... you're correct, it's about hiring the right guy, the fanbase & Media however only sees what's in front of them so perception in reality and as such it's going to make for interesting news bites.... the only ones winning at the moment are sports reporters
This is GOLDEN TIME for sports writers and radio host
 
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Where do you honestly think Nebraska falls on the pecking order for coaches when Penn St, Florida, Auburn, LSU, Arkansas, UCLA, VA Tech, Okie St. and possibly FSU all looking for HC's? You have a guy right now building your program from the ground up. Great idea to lock him up long term IMO.
cons:
1. rhule knew we was losing 0 & 9 and did'nt seem to have a plan for the heart of the blackshirts.
2. the N on the side of the helmet vs minnisota was, pink..seems real gay
3. running back depth, repeat, running back depth
4. still wonder about game management and play calling, sometimes..and the raiola statue/sack in the collapsing pocket bugs me and tackling
5. giving a extension without a commitment seems kinda simpish / sometimes I think we should hire kiffen

pros:
1. rhule is a hc not a coordinator, he seems to get the big picture. from media to recruiting to nil/portal to organization and he's never went bo or too much drink on us
2. rhule did take a shot to improve left tackle, it blew up in his face but at least he tried
3. rhule has us on a upward trajectory so far, 5 wins, 7 wins, 9 wins???
4. rhule has upgraded speed and coaches
5. none of it's my money, so I guess thats a good thing

I suppose it's ok to go ahead and give rhule a extension, but lets not think we are where we need to be.
I haven't seen us beat usc yet, or in the top 20...these are true problem areas
 
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cons:
1. rhule knew we was losing 0 & 9 and did'nt seem to have a plan for the heart of the blackshirts.
2. the N on the side of the helmet vs minnisota was, pink..seems real gay
3. running back depth, repeat, running back depth
4. still wonder about game management and play calling, sometimes..and the raiola statue/sack in the collapsing pocket bugs me and tackling
5. giving a extension without a commitment seems kinda simpish / sometimes I think we should hire kiffen

pros:
1. rhule is a hc not a coordinator, he seems to get the big picture. from media to recruiting to nil/portal to organization and he's never went bo or too much drink on us
2. rhule did take a shot to improve left tackle, it blew up in his face but at least he tried
3. rhule has us on a upward trajectory so far, 5 wins, 7 wins, 9 wins???
4. rhule has upgraded speed and coaches
5. none of it's my money, so I guess thats a good thing

I suppose it's ok to go ahead and give rhule a extension, but lets not think we are where we need to be.
I haven't seen us beat usc yet, or in the top 20...these are true problem areas
I’m guessing the powers that be think that if we hire and keep good coordinators that Rhule can win enough to keep the wolves at bay. I’m a little concerned about Butler’s job performance.
 

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cons:
1. rhule knew we was losing 0 & 9 and did'nt seem to have a plan for the heart of the blackshirts.
2. the N on the side of the helmet vs minnisota was, pink..seems real gay
3. running back depth, repeat, running back depth
4. still wonder about game management and play calling, sometimes..and the raiola statue/sack in the collapsing pocket bugs me and tackling
5. giving a extension without a commitment seems kinda simpish / sometimes I think we should hire kiffen

pros:
1. rhule is a hc not a coordinator, he seems to get the big picture. from media to recruiting to nil/portal to organization and he's never went bo or too much drink on us
2. rhule did take a shot to improve left tackle, it blew up in his face but at least he tried
3. rhule has us on a upward trajectory so far, 5 wins, 7 wins, 9 wins???
4. rhule has upgraded speed and coaches
5. none of it's my money, so I guess thats a good thing

I suppose it's ok to go ahead and give rhule a extension, but lets not think we are where we need to be.
I haven't seen us beat usc yet, or in the top 20...these are true problem areas
Con #3 I believe he should have moved to a different RB position coach after last season. Outside of Emmitt’s individual athletic abilities that position group has not performed well enough. Time for a better leader there.
 

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I’m guessing the powers that be think that if we hire and keep good coordinators that Rhule can win enough to keep the wolves at bay. I’m a little concerned about Butler’s job performance.
The coaching changes at this point have ranged from neutral (DC) to mid(OC and WR) to excellent improvement (special teams). He should keep tweaking, for example time to move on to new RB coach.
on Butler, it’s easy to view the poor run defense but overlook how well the pass defense is.
 

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Con #3 I believe he should have moved to a different RB position coach after last season. Outside of Emmitt’s individual athletic abilities that position group has not performed well enough. Time for a better leader there.
EJ is an all-conference level back and would probably be getting about the same number of carries even if what's behind him was a bit more reliable, given that he is a key to winning games. And I am liking what Mozee is beginning to show. He would probably be getting more carries if EJ wasn't as good, but then we probably wouldn't be 6-2. As far as the others, Dowdell left for cash and Brown didn't come because of cash. Dante has been on the shelf with a knee injury and Char-Mar is average 3.9 ypc (243 total) at the U.
They decided not to pony up for a second proven back. I don't think an absence of this back was a primary driver in our two losses. However, I do think Holgerson is beginning to see play calling sequences where Dowdell would come in handy.