Right now we are in the midst of a cold civil war here in America...

Brushy Bill

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and these are the likeliest outcomes. Full disclosure, any real dialogue on this will require you read the article instead of just popping off an emotional response. TIA

There are four outcomes that can proceed from the juncture of which we stand. The first is a globalist resurgence at the polls thanks to demographic changes that push the vote far to the left, starting in 2024. If this happens, we will have a president that is more authoritarian than Hillary Clinton. The boot will come down on all facets of American life, especially speech, and we will essentially be living in an open-air prison.

The second outcome is a hot war where we win. The country will be ravaged and millions will die, but at least most of the deaths will be leftists.

The third option is a hot war where we lose because of foreign involvement. Not only are we much more likely to die in this engagement, but the globalist boot will come down with such a viciousness that those on the right who survive may hope that they had died in the war.

And the fourth option is the long divorce, one that we will easily win if the recommendations I made above are taken. Very few people die and life can proceed with high stability and prosperity for the majority of the country.

http://www.rooshv.com/the-american-cold-civil-war
 

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and these are the likeliest outcomes. Full disclosure, any real dialogue on this will require you read the article instead of just popping off an emotional response. TIA

There are four outcomes that can proceed from the juncture of which we stand. The first is a globalist resurgence at the polls thanks to demographic changes that push the vote far to the left, starting in 2024. If this happens, we will have a president that is more authoritarian than Hillary Clinton. The boot will come down on all facets of American life, especially speech, and we will essentially be living in an open-air prison.

The second outcome is a hot war where we win. The country will be ravaged and millions will die, but at least most of the deaths will be leftists.

The third option is a hot war where we lose because of foreign involvement. Not only are we much more likely to die in this engagement, but the globalist boot will come down with such a viciousness that those on the right who survive may hope that they had died in the war.

And the fourth option is the long divorce, one that we will easily win if the recommendations I made above are taken. Very few people die and life can proceed with high stability and prosperity for the majority of the country.

http://www.rooshv.com/the-american-cold-civil-war
lol
 

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and these are the likeliest outcomes. Full disclosure, any real dialogue on this will require you read the article instead of just popping off an emotional response. TIA

There are four outcomes that can proceed from the juncture of which we stand. The first is a globalist resurgence at the polls thanks to demographic changes that push the vote far to the left, starting in 2024. If this happens, we will have a president that is more authoritarian than Hillary Clinton. The boot will come down on all facets of American life, especially speech, and we will essentially be living in an open-air prison.

The second outcome is a hot war where we win. The country will be ravaged and millions will die, but at least most of the deaths will be leftists.

The third option is a hot war where we lose because of foreign involvement. Not only are we much more likely to die in this engagement, but the globalist boot will come down with such a viciousness that those on the right who survive may hope that they had died in the war.

And the fourth option is the long divorce, one that we will easily win if the recommendations I made above are taken. Very few people die and life can proceed with high stability and prosperity for the majority of the country.

http://www.rooshv.com/the-american-cold-civil-war
wow lol good stuff
 

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#s 2 and 3 imply there will literally be a shooting civil war in the US in the near future. How can anyone buy this stuff?

When I see stuff like this two syllables come to my mind. "KA-CHING." They're posting outrageous stuff to take advantage of gullible people and separate them from their money.
 

Brushy Bill

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#s 2 and 3 imply there will literally be a shooting civil war in the US in the near future. How can anyone buy this stuff?

When I see stuff like this two syllables come to my mind. "KA-CHING." They're posting outrageous stuff to take advantage of gullible people and separate them from their money.

Did you read the whole post or just the synopsis I highlighted? Also did you not see what happened in Berkley over the weekend? Were you not paying attention to BLM running around and rioting, vandalizing and causing mayhem in general.
 

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Aliens could land and take over tomorrow, anything could happen I guess.
Glad you are open-minded....as I suggested to RPJ earlier...the "Grays" might indeed be the cause of all the chaos in todays world.
 

op2

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Did you read the whole post or just the synopsis I highlighted? Also did you not see what happened in Berkley over the weekend? Were you not paying attention to BLM running around and rioting, vandalizing and causing mayhem in general.

I read the synopsis and then clicked the website and very briefly skimmed it. The synopsis was crazy enough that I don't really know why I even clicked the website at all.

Yes, I've seen Berkeley. Part of the problem in discussions like these is people feel compelled to take a side and make their side 100% right and the other side 100% wrong. But in reality there are often complete nuts on both sides and that's what's happening today. Yes, there are plenty of absolute crazies on the left and they should be combated but not by becoming an absolute crazy on the right.

The nuts on the fringes frame the battle as left vs right but us non-crazies frame it as crazies vs non-crazies. To us the crazies on the left and the crazies on the right look like the same person.
 

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I read the synopsis and then clicked the website and very briefly skimmed it. The synopsis was crazy enough that I don't really know why I even clicked the website at all.

Yes, I've seen Berkeley. Part of the problem in discussions like these is people feel compelled to take a side and make their side 100% right and the other side 100% wrong. But in reality there are often complete nuts on both sides and that's what's happening today. Yes, there are plenty of absolute crazies on the left and they should be combated but not by becoming an absolute crazy on the right.

The nuts on the fringes frame the battle as left vs right but us non-crazies frame it as crazies vs non-crazies. To us the crazies on the left and the crazies on the right look like the same person.

15 years ago I would have completely agreed with you, but don't you think there has been a shift towards the radicalized ends of the spectrum, not only in rhetoric but also in professed adherents, by both sides? Yes there are plenty of centrists out there still and to them this may seem like lunacy, but it is happening and I don't see a spontaneous reversal happening.
 

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15 years ago I would have completely agreed with you, but don't you think there has been a shift towards the radicalized ends of the spectrum, not only in rhetoric but also in professed adherents, by both sides? Yes there are plenty of centrists out there still and to them this may seem like lunacy, but it is happening and I don't see a spontaneous reversal happening.

There have been a shift towards the ends somewhat but it's not like this has never happened. The 60s were way crazier than now and things turned out okay. Because there has been some movement towards both wings there is a lot of room in the center. I wish it was easier for 3rd parties to gain momentum in our system because if there was I think they'd flourish.
 

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There have been a shift towards the ends somewhat but it's not like this has never happened. The 60s were way crazier than now and things turned out okay. Because there has been some movement towards both wings there is a lot of room in the center. I wish it was easier for 3rd parties to gain momentum in our system because if there was I think they'd flourish.

I don't think 'the machine' will ever let that happen, I mean look what the cucks did to the tea party. Ron Paul convinced me that reclaiming one party from the usurpers was the best option and I still believe that to one degree or another that's why I support DJT, I just don't think that the banksters/globalists/cultural Maxists will fight it tooth and nail and even foment open war in hopes of rebuilding their utopia from the ashes of the old one.

Full disclosure, I'm fine with dissolving the US as we know it and restructuring it into something more suitable to reality. I'd prefer an originalist/constitutional State and Federal relationship but I'm amenable to something else all together. What I hate however, is liberal ideology, I think it ignores reality and experience in pursuit of some unattainable utopia, but que sera sera, let them learn the harshness of economic realities like Venezuela et al. I'm of the conservative/nationalistic mindset myself and I'd like to see it come to fruition some day, if not for myself then for my children and future grandchildren. We should divorce now while we can still be good neighbors, but this zero sum game ******** is just going to cause further radicalization until open conflict is inevitable.
 
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moe

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I don't think 'the machine' will ever let that happen, I mean look what the cucks did to the tea party. Ron Paul convinced me that reclaiming one party from the usurpers was the best option and I still believe that to one degree or another that's why I support DJT, I just don't think that the banksters/globalists/cultural Maxists will fight it tooth and nail and even foment open war in hopes of rebuilding their utopia from the ashes of the old one.

Full disclosure, I'm fine with dissolving the US as we know it and restructuring it into something more suitable to reality. I'd prefer an originalist/constitutional State and Federal relationship but I'm amenable to something else all together. What I hate however, is liberal ideology, I think it ignores reality and experience in pursuit of some unattainable utopia, but que sera sera, let them learn the harshness of economic realities like Venezuela et al. I'm of the conservative/nationalistic mindset myself and I'd like to see it come to fruition some day, if not for myself then for my children and future grandchildren. We should divorce now while we can still be good neighbors, but this zero sum game ******** is just going to cause further radicalization until open conflict is inevitable.
Are you a sovereign citizen?
 

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Did you read the whole post or just the synopsis I highlighted?
The radical left hasn't shown the stomach for the hot war scenario and it would be short lived, imo. Hopefully our current laws can settle this nonsense. My prediction for the upcoming Ann Coulter scheduled speech at Berkeley (which is booked for indoors, BTW, rather than a street rally like Lauren Southern's) is that she will be removed out the back door 'for her own safety.' Nothing could be farther from the truth. She will be completely safe; safer than Mick 'freaking' Jagger. She will have plenty of dudes that could easily handle the masked ones. But publicly own property will be destroyed and the police will likely do nothing, especially the Berkeley police. City, county and state police may finally do something. It has to be conflicting for police that take an oath but are given contradictory orders to stand down from their bosses. If the police wont act, free speech advocates may. That alone might entice law enforcement to do their jobs. Antifa numbers may be down after last weekend. April 27th should be interesting.
 

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The radical left hasn't shown the stomach for the hot war scenario and it would be short lived, imo. Hopefully our current laws can settle this nonsense. My prediction for the upcoming Ann Coulter scheduled speech at Berkeley (which is booked for indoors, BTW, rather than a street rally like Lauren Southern's) is that she will be removed out the back door 'for her own safety.' Nothing could be farther from the truth. She will be completely safe; safer than Mick 'freaking' Jagger. She will have plenty of dudes that could easily handle the masked ones. But publicly own property will be destroyed and the police will likely do nothing, especially the Berkeley police. City, county and state police may finally do something. It has to be conflicting for police that take an oath but are given contradictory orders to stand down from their bosses. If the police wont act, free speech advocates may. That alone might entice law enforcement to do their jobs. Antifa numbers may be down after last weekend. April 27th should be interesting.
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moe

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The radical left hasn't shown the stomach for the hot war scenario and it would be short lived, imo. Hopefully our current laws can settle this nonsense. My prediction for the upcoming Ann Coulter scheduled speech at Berkeley (which is booked for indoors, BTW, rather than a street rally like Lauren Southern's) is that she will be removed out the back door 'for her own safety.' Nothing could be farther from the truth. She will be completely safe; safer than Mick 'freaking' Jagger. She will have plenty of dudes that could easily handle the masked ones. But publicly own property will be destroyed and the police will likely do nothing, especially the Berkeley police. City, county and state police may finally do something. It has to be conflicting for police that take an oath but are given contradictory orders to stand down from their bosses. If the police wont act, free speech advocates may. That alone might entice law enforcement to do their jobs. Antifa numbers may be down after last weekend. April 27th should be interesting.
Are you a sovereign citizen?
 

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The radical left hasn't shown the stomach for the hot war scenario and it would be short lived, imo. Hopefully our current laws can settle this nonsense. My prediction for the upcoming Ann Coulter scheduled speech at Berkeley (which is booked for indoors, BTW, rather than a street rally like Lauren Southern's) is that she will be removed out the back door 'for her own safety.' Nothing could be farther from the truth. She will be completely safe; safer than Mick 'freaking' Jagger. She will have plenty of dudes that could easily handle the masked ones. But publicly own property will be destroyed and the police will likely do nothing, especially the Berkeley police. City, county and state police may finally do something. It has to be conflicting for police that take an oath but are given contradictory orders to stand down from their bosses. If the police wont act, free speech advocates may. That alone might entice law enforcement to do their jobs. Antifa numbers may be down after last weekend. April 27th should be interesting.

I don't think the the left/antifa/liberals in general have the fortitude to man up if a 'hot' war started, but if the right doesn't get their **** together then the left will win the culture war by default, they've won every most skirmishes thus far already. Mitch McConnel and Paul 'cucky' Ryan are absolutely worthless to the efforts to reclaim sanity from the left and should be removed from their positions within the party and if necessary expelled from the altogether. What the left and cucks both don't realize that the growing discontent on the right is at a tipping point, just look at the emergence of the alt-right as a force in political discourse. The left relies on the rights willingness to settle for half measure to incrimentalize the entire country to the left so the time for half measures is almost over.
 

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I don't think the the left/antifa/liberals in general have the fortitude to man up if a 'hot' war started, but if the right doesn't get their **** together then the left will win the culture war by default, they've won every most skirmishes thus far already. Mitch McConnel and Paul 'cucky' Ryan are absolutely worthless to the efforts to reclaim sanity from the left and should be removed from their positions within the party and if necessary expelled from the altogether. What the left and cucks both don't realize that the growing discontent on the right is at a tipping point, just look at the emergence of the alt-right as a force in political discourse. The left relies on the rights willingness to settle for half measure to incrimentalize the entire country to the left so the time for half measures is almost over.
So when Trump can't produce the promised jobs, softens on China, can't repeal the ACA and doesn't get the wall built...you all are just gonna go nuts huh? take over all the National Wildlife Refuge HQs?
 

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So when Trump can't produce the promised jobs, softens on China, can't repeal the ACA and doesn't get the wall built...you all are just gonna go nuts huh? take over all the National Wildlife Refuge HQs?
No. Please pay attention.
 

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So when Trump can't produce the promised jobs, softens on China, can't repeal the ACA and doesn't get the wall built...you all are just gonna go nuts huh? take over all the National Wildlife Refuge HQs?

What you don't understand is that IF Trump isn't successful, or cucks we'll just move on without him. The movement is already underway and it is independent of any leader, it's the message that we rally around.
 

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What you don't understand is that IF Trump isn't successful, or cucks we'll just move on without him. The movement is already underway and it is independent of any leader, it's the message that we rally around.
We globalists are going to smash you betas in to a million pieces.
 

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What you don't understand is that IF Trump isn't successful, or cucks we'll just move on without him. The movement is already underway and it is independent of any leader, it's the message that we rally around.
Are you a militia member? (not trying to out you, no one reads this board anyways)
 

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Impede my rights and I will. You being stupid doesn't impede my rights.

You know what other group of lefties liked to talk loud and posture, the antifa dumbasses in Berkley. They taunted and postured right up to the point the righties were giving them wedgies.

[roll]
 

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and these are the likeliest outcomes. Full disclosure, any real dialogue on this will require you read the article instead of just popping off an emotional response. TIA

There are four outcomes that can proceed from the juncture of which we stand. The first is a globalist resurgence at the polls thanks to demographic changes that push the vote far to the left, starting in 2024. If this happens, we will have a president that is more authoritarian than Hillary Clinton. The boot will come down on all facets of American life, especially speech, and we will essentially be living in an open-air prison.

The second outcome is a hot war where we win. The country will be ravaged and millions will die, but at least most of the deaths will be leftists.

The third option is a hot war where we lose because of foreign involvement. Not only are we much more likely to die in this engagement, but the globalist boot will come down with such a viciousness that those on the right who survive may hope that they had died in the war.

And the fourth option is the long divorce, one that we will easily win if the recommendations I made above are taken. Very few people die and life can proceed with high stability and prosperity for the majority of the country.

http://www.rooshv.com/the-american-cold-civil-war
How are the Little Donnie's going to defeat "leftists" when most have a 4-F doctors excuse not to fight ?[roll]