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hmt5000

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I said there was soaring demand "once the last bad wave of the pandemic passed." That means AFTER lockdowns. Do you not know how to read?
I do. But you clearly don't understand economics.



You aren't understanding why demand was so high and how this chart predicts that exact scenario going back through centuries of monetary policies. You also need to understand the rising prices aren't close to over even as demand goes down because supply will further dry up to input cost.
 
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Gas is soaring enough to make Joe Biden get on TV again, and tell us energy prices are crucial to his administration, so he will be releasing oil reserves….rinse and repeat in 2 weeks, again. Etc etc etc
I think at this point in his term, if folks think he is going to fix anything for the better they really should seek some medical attention.
 

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The Keystone Pipeline wasn't going to be ready to go live for years and all the oil it was going to be transporting was for export.
Yeah definitely no need to plan ahead. Anything that is going to take a few years to build should just be canceled today. A lot of companies out there need to cancel a lot of projects that are going to take longer than a year I guess. great move to just cancel the project and put a bunch of people out of work. Where did you get the the oil for keystone pipeline was only going to be for export?
 

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I'd love just one time for the Democrat Party to acknowledge they were wrong about something or they failed at something instead of 1) Blaming someone else 2) Gaslighting you into thinking it was a good thing.

That would require common sense and acknowledging that they are essentially clueless as to how to solve any of the current issues that are ruining this country.

In other words, they don't know their *** from a hole in the ground.
 

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And just how were we doing just a couple of years ago? Thanks for playing.

Two years ago?

Well, in Q2 of 2020 the GDP fell by over 31%, unemployment was 4x higher than it is today, and the demand for oil was so low that it cost money to unload it.

I miss filling up at $1.25/gallon, but collapsing/destroying the economy isnt the best way to make it happen again, and your knowledge flex didn’t really pan out the way you wanted it to.
 
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Two years ago?

Well, in Q2 of 2020 the GDP fell by over 31%, unemployment was 4x higher than it is today, and the demand for oil was so low that it cost money to unload it.

I miss filling up at $1.25/gallon, but collapsing/destroying the economy isnt the best way to make it happen again, and your knowledge flex didn’t really pan out the way you wanted it to.
How was unemployment before government COVID lockdowns occurred?

Government intentionally created the problems we have.
 

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Look guys, at the end of the day democrats are bad and republicans are good. If we had a one party political system everything in the world would be good. You should vote strictly down party lines, for everything, since republicans are better than democrats who are bad. Pretty basic stuff.
 
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Two years ago?

Well, in Q2 of 2020 the GDP fell by over 31%, unemployment was 4x higher than it is today, and the demand for oil was so low that it cost money to unload it.

I miss filling up at $1.25/gallon, but collapsing/destroying the economy isnt the best way to make it happen again, and your knowledge flex didn’t really pan out the way you wanted it to.
Weren't we also in the middle of a global pandemic where people were on lockdown, employers were having to close up shop and the government was handing out more in unemployment benefits than people made when they were working?
 

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Look guys, at the end of the day democrats are bad and republicans are good. If we had a one party political system everything in the world would be good. You should vote strictly down party lines, for everything, since republicans are better than democrats who are bad. Pretty basic stuff.
I do think we would be better off without political parties. If politicians voted for what they felt was best for their constituents rather than what their donors and their party wanted them to vote for we would probably all be better off. Right now they may not personally be in favor of something but if the party is that is the way they vote.
 

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Look guys, at the end of the day democrats are bad and republicans are good. If we had a one party political system everything in the world would be good. You should vote strictly down party lines, for everything, since republicans are better than democrats who are bad. Pretty basic stuff.
Should be no parties at all.
 

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I do think we would be better off without political parties. If politicians voted for what they felt was best for their constituents rather than what their donors and their party wanted them to vote for we would probably all be better off. Right now they may not personally be in favor of something but if the party is that is the way they vote.

They don’t have term limits - so they have no incentive to do anything other than hold on to their position of power with every fiber in their being. Just like 99% of people. If you were a senator or congressman wouldn’t you want to remain one?
 
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Look guys, at the end of the day democrats are bad and republicans are good. If we had a one party political system everything in the world would be good. You should vote strictly down party lines, for everything, since republicans are better than democrats who are bad. Pretty basic stuff.
Literally no one has said that lol

I mean, its not difficult to see the difference between the 2 parties. Sure, Repubs have plenty of morons/partisans/scumbags... but the Dems literally don't have 3 people in power that you could actually trust.
 

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Literally no one has said that lol

I mean, its not difficult to see the difference between the 2 parties. Sure, Repubs have plenty of morons/partisans/scumbags... but the Dems literally don't have 3 people in power that you could actually trust.

If you don’t vote down party lines like a mindless sheep I’ll eat my shoe. You could have a democrat that was your twin in terms of ways to run the government and you wouldn’t vote for him because you wouldn’t know anything about him because you would write him off because he was a democrat. Jameslee and wildcatboston and Ed would be the same way with a Republican. You guys have been “turned”.
 

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Republicans in general suck. Could probably count on two hands the ones that I would trust to make the right decision in the line of fire when the leftist mob is controlling the narrative.

But that’s still about two hands worth more than Democrats that are worth anything.

I fully understand why someone wouldn’t want to vote for a generic Republican. I will never understand why anyone would vote for a Democrat.
 

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If you don’t vote down party lines like a mindless sheep I’ll eat my shoe. You could have a democrat that was your twin in terms of ways to run the government and you wouldn’t vote for him because you wouldn’t know anything about him because you would write him off because he was a democrat. Jameslee and wildcatboston and Ed would be the same way with a Republican. You guys have been “turned”.
So, I can vote for a Democrat that supports personal responsibility, pro life, lower taxes, free speech, less regulation, anti grooming, energy independence, and, in general, "America First"?

Find one lol.
 

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Look guys, at the end of the day democrats are bad and republicans are good. If we had a one party political system everything in the world would be good. You should vote strictly down party lines, for everything, since republicans are better than democrats who are bad. Pretty basic stuff.
Our biggest issue with the Republican Party is uniparty crap- being too much like the left. We're very critical of the GOP as they are way too much uni-party controlled opposition (that's how you get people like Romney, Susan Collins, Liz Cheney, etc.). There is absolutely nothing redeeming about the Democrat Party as their entire agenda is about destruction and massive government control.

The worst crap in this country has been with the Dems.

Who pushed COVID on us? Who pushed mandates and lockdowns?
Who tried to inject everyone with an experiment where the manufacturer recorded record profits, faced no liability concern, and you lost your job if you dared to say no?
Who is creating a 'ministry of truth' and has been censoring news and political dissent?
Who has rolled out the red carpet for a massive third world invasion?
Who is all about low bail, defunding police, and pure lawlessness?
Who brought on this massive inflation (eff both the GOP and DNC for this)?
Who has done everything to be about globalism over national interest?
Who is always ready to toss out the Constitution?
Who wants to put men on women's athletic teams? Who wants to disregard basic biology and then talk to your 7 year old about LGBTQXYZ?
Who is all about identity politics and affirmative action over an actual meritocracy?


How can anyone have a country with this group? Throughout our history, this party has been the culprit of the worst **** and has now through massive propaganda, has tried to transfer those sins to others. I despise the two party system but in terms of ideals, if the GOP actually did what conservatives wanted, we'd be better off than the pure lunacy where Dems are always on offense and then the GOP typically doesn't do **** except pure theater for political fundraising.
 

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So, I can vote for a Democrat that supports personal responsibility, pro life, lower taxes, free speech, less regulation, anti grooming, energy independence, and, in general, "America First"?

Find one lol.

Our biggest issue with the Republican Party is uniparty crap- being too much like the left. We're very critical of the GOP as they are way too much uni-party controlled opposition (that's how you get people like Romney, Susan Collins, Liz Cheney, etc.). There is absolutely nothing redeeming about the Democrat Party as their entire agenda is about destruction and massive government control.

The worst crap in this country has been with the Dems.

Who pushed COVID on us? Who pushed mandates and lockdowns?
Who tried to inject everyone with an experiment where the manufacturer recorded record profits, faced no liability concern, and you lost your job if you dared to say no?
Who is creating a 'ministry of truth' and has been censoring news and political dissent?
Who has rolled out the red carpet for a massive third world invasion?
Who is all about low bail, defunding police, and pure lawlessness?
Who brought on this massive inflation (eff both the GOP and DNC for this)?
Who has done everything to be about globalism over national interest?
Who is always ready to toss out the Constitution?
Who wants to put men on women's athletic teams? Who wants to disregard basic biology and then talk to your 7 year old about LGBTQXYZ?
Who is all about identity politics and affirmative action over an actual meritocracy?


How can anyone have a country with this group? Throughout our history, this party has been the culprit of the worst **** and has now through massive propaganda, has tried to transfer those sins to others. I despise the two party system but in terms of ideals, if the GOP actually did what conservatives wanted, we'd be better off than the pure lunacy where Dems are always on offense and then the GOP typically doesn't do **** except pure theater for political fundraising.

Ummmmm, you guys seem confused. I already addressed this in my first post. Democrats are bad, republicans are good. The world would be better if there were only republicans, since democrats are bad. Pretty simple stuff.
 

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If you don’t vote down party lines like a mindless sheep I’ll eat my shoe. You could have a democrat that was your twin in terms of ways to run the government and you wouldn’t vote for him because you wouldn’t know anything about him because you would write him off because he was a democrat. Jameslee and wildcatboston and Ed would be the same way with a Republican. You guys have been “turned”.
If they had the same values then they wouldn't be a Democrat in the first place. Pretty simple. The left is in complete unison on every topic so no, I wouldn't vote for that group, certainly not the party of pro open borders, big government, and political sponsored violence from BLM and Antifa.
 
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That would require common sense and acknowledging that they are essentially clueless as to how to solve any of the current issues that are ruining this country.

In other words, they don't know their *** from a hole in the ground.
Your tears taste better than cold Miller lite.
 

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If they had the same values then they wouldn't be a Democrat in the first place. Pretty simple. The left is in complete unison on every topic so no, I wouldn't vote for that group, certainly not the party of pro open borders, big government, and political sponsored violence from BLM and Antifa.
You seem to be assuming the Right and the Left are equidistant from the Center.

That's not remotely true.

Edit: assuming the "Center" is the correct place to be (which I don't agree with anyway... but many do).
 
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The biggest problem we face today is our leaders are 100% focused on social issues and their social agenda. The tunnel vision is so severe, not a thought is put into how to correctly achieve their goals in a rationale manner without destroying the country. We live in an alarmist society now where things must happen RIGHT NOW, and consequences be damned. THE WORLD IS ENDING IN 12 YEARS our leaders say as they ram through insane policy. Just one of many many examples.

I’d love a clean energy society where the infrastructure can support what is needed. Things like that take time and patience is needed. Rushing through an agenda in such a haphazard way where you give up oil independence, print trillions, label those who oppose your views as evil, etc is how you destroy a once high functioning society. We are falling apart and I don’t see much hope of bringing things back together so we can live in a cohesive way.

Read up on the destruction of Venezuela and look at some of the parallels. It’s extremely shocking and frightening. Now I’m not saying we will do exactly as they did, because there are many variables that will push things in different directions, but the current path is very scary.
 

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tunnel vision is so severe, not a thought is put into how to correctly achieve their goals in a rationale manner without destroying the country

That’s assuming our leaders don’t wish to “destroy the country”.

You don’t have to read between the lines to know a lot of our leaders wish to “fundamentally change” this country. They campaign on it, they talk about it constantly, they want to change dang near every institution and pillar of this country.

That’s not some radical right conspiracy junk. It’s real life, and they, The Man, tell us all about pretty much daily. People just get caught up in the media covering for em, and providing distractions, stupid right vs left politics, when the real battle is citizens/states vs the feds.

This country has fundamentally changed a lot just since the 80’s. What happened what Covid, our election, and what’s still happening, is a monumental change.
 

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Two years ago?

Well, in Q2 of 2020 the GDP fell by over 31%, unemployment was 4x higher than it is today, and the demand for oil was so low that it cost money to unload it.

I miss filling up at $1.25/gallon, but collapsing/destroying the economy isnt the best way to make it happen again, and your knowledge flex didn’t really pan out the way you wanted it to.
What are we doing to our economy currently?
 

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Two years ago?

Well, in Q2 of 2020 the GDP fell by over 31%, unemployment was 4x higher than it is today, and the demand for oil was so low that it cost money to unload it.

I miss filling up at $1.25/gallon, but collapsing/destroying the economy isnt the best way to make it happen again, and your knowledge flex didn’t really pan out the way you wanted it to.

Anyone who lists an unemployment figure from 2 years ago when people were forced out of work probably should seek life elsewhere. In fact, by not listing the primary reason for our economic issues 2 years ago shows your complete ignorance on the matter.

And just why do you think the demand for oil was so low?

Flex this.
 
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I fully agree that the government sucks, but if you’re stupid enough to ask “WELL HOW WERE THINGS TWO YEARS AGO??!” then by god, I’m gonna tell you.

Awful. Two years ago, May 2020 was absolutely awful.

Life was pretty damn fantastic until roughly march of 2020. Some jackass Ohio governor, Republican by the way, made the horrible decision to start shutting things down and ending civil liberty, which started a chain reaction that destroyed life in this country for the foreseeable future. Liberals across the nation were living their favorite wet dream once this started and a game of who can make the dumbest rules began to play out. The ones harmed the most by these morons are our children. Those effects will be incrementally shown for many years.
 
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Should be no parties at all.

"However [political parties] may now and then answer popular ends, they are likely in the course of time and things, to become potent engines, by which cunning, ambitious, and unprincipled men will be enabled to subvert the power of the people and to usurp for themselves the reins of government, destroying afterwards the very engines which have lifted them to unjust dominion." - George Washington

 

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"However [political parties] may now and then answer popular ends, they are likely in the course of time and things, to become potent engines, by which cunning, ambitious, and unprincipled men will be enabled to subvert the power of the people and to usurp for themselves the reins of government, destroying afterwards the very engines which have lifted them to unjust dominion." - George Washington

Exactly why I said it. George Washington knew what was up.
 
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That’s assuming our leaders don’t wish to “destroy the country”.

You don’t have to read between the lines to know a lot of our leaders wish to “fundamentally change” this country. They campaign on it, they talk about it constantly, they want to change dang near every institution and pillar of this country.

That’s not some radical right conspiracy junk. It’s real life, and they, The Man, tell us all about pretty much daily. People just get caught up in the media covering for em, and providing distractions, stupid right vs left politics, when the real battle is citizens/states vs the feds.

This country has fundamentally changed a lot just since the 80’s. What happened what Covid, our election, and what’s still happening, is a monumental change.
Anyone looking to install a rejected King to the highest office in the land, hates America.
 

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Anyone looking to install a rejected King to the highest office in the land, hates America.
Weird how nobody cared about all those ballot harvesters. The one woman on camera signing ballots and then sticking them in a drop box.... totally OK with you. Hypocrite.
 

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Weird how nobody cared about all those ballot harvesters. The one woman on camera signing ballots and then sticking them in a drop box.... totally OK with you. Hypocrite.
The end justifies the means for these…people
 
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