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capnbillhitters

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in the Trib, Steve Miller reports that Auburn has four guys on the line that are 340 lbs or bigger. Pretty sure they are all on the Oline as the rushed for 380 on Reavis.

Can anyone confirm? Sounds like an NFL sized line.
 
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I know 2017 OT Verderian Lowe is in the 300 range and he's a terrific linemen so I guess....I'll ask Dan Appino this week
 
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capnbillhitters said:
in the Trib, Steve Miller reports that Auburn has four guys on the line that are 340 lbs or bigger. Pretty sure they are all on the Oline as the rushed for 380 on Reavis.

Can anyone confirm? Sounds like an NFL sized line.
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Lt-215
Lg-250
C-280
Rg-320
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capnbillhitters said:
in the Trib, Steve Miller reports that Auburn has four guys on the line that are 340 lbs or bigger. Pretty sure they are all on the Oline as the rushed for 380 on Reavis.

Can anyone confirm? Sounds like an NFL sized line.
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More specific: LT- #64 D. Davis- 5'11" 210
LG-#53 S. Hayes-6'1" 250
C- #72 J. Williams-6'1" 285
RG-#78 D. Hannah-6'2" 345
RT-#79 V. Lowe - 6'6" 335
 
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boylanfan33 said:
More specific: LT- #64 D. Davis- 5'11" 210
LG-#53 S. Hayes-6'1" 250
C- #72 J. Williams-6'1" 285
RG-#78 D. Hannah-6'2" 345
RT-#79 V. Lowe - 6'6" 335
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Thanks Boylan. Maybe they have a couple more on Defense OR he meant to write 4 lineman over 250

That line will still be the biggest West has seen the year. What kind of offense do they run?
 
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At Auburn, #79 and #78 play both sides of the ball. That's an average of 350 pounds playing nearly every play. Looks like they have several skill kids going both ways, too. On defense, their lineman #76, Austin, is big and quick. I like him a lot. Best to run away from him.

Auburn has size, and their #2, #1, #4, and #20 have good speed. However, I think both lines at HC, HS, and OPRF were considerably better than Auburn. And all three better team speed.

Just my observations.
 
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Auburn is still prone to poor snaps, bad exchanges and these like that that separate good teams and great teams. They love jet plays, jet read, Wrap plays and some PA passes looking to hit Parchman. They are a 4-2 team with some good size on the DL and a good LB in Lambert. They are a good team, but not on the level of GBW.
 
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I don't see Auburn scoring. Unless they now have Cam Newton or the Gus Bus
 
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chuck998 said:
At Auburn, #79 and #78 play both sides of the ball. That's an average of 350 pounds playing nearly every play. Looks like they have several skill kids going both ways, too. On defense, their lineman #76, Austin, is big and quick. I like him a lot. Best to run away from him.

Auburn has size, and their #2, #1, #4, and #20 have good speed. However, I think both lines at HC, HS, and OPRF were considerably better than Auburn. And all three better team speed.

Just my observations.
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I would argue team speed is just the same as the other three. Aurburn has two D1 skill kids and a bunch of kids that can move. Now the level of play, no not close. West wins by at least 21. Auburn gets a rude awakening as to what high quality Chicagoland football looks like.
 
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The weak competition that Auburn has played in the RPS and playing 5A and 6A teams won't help them one bit.
 
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With all that being said, Dan Appino has done a great job turning that program around. The RPS has helped him in the fact that they built those nice field houses that I"m sure helps draw more kids in. He's done a great job of giving those kids discipline and structure and it has paid off!! Kudos to him and his staff!!
 
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With all that being said, Dan Appino has done a great job turning that program around. The RPS has helped him in the fact that they built those nice field houses that I"m sure helps draw more kids in. He's done a great job of giving those kids discipline and structure and it has paid off!! Kudos to him and his staff!!
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Cheers to that. Always glad to see kids get a chance to learn the value of hard work and playing like a team. Cheers Coach Appino
 
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Ogre5530 said:
With all that being said, Dan Appino has done a great job turning that program around. The RPS has helped him in the fact that they built those nice field houses that I"m sure helps draw more kids in. He's done a great job of giving those kids discipline and structure and it has paid off!! Kudos to him and his staff!!
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Do you think that the other rps football coaches will become disgruntled like the rps basketball coaches? I dont know if the other coaches have the leverage to bring in their own assistant coaches that are guaranteed teaching jobs. You have to have a great coaching staff from top to bottom in order to establish a winning culture at these schools that have struggled. Auburn has some great coaches. Not sure Appino takes the job at Auburn if he couldnt pick his staff. Not sure if the new Jefferson coach was given the same deal.
 
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Appino was basically given everything he wanted...that's not the case at the other schools. Auburn is the athletic darling of Rockford. The ROTC and gifted program help get any public school kid in there as well. They aren't offered anywhere else so he has that little "perk" going for him.
 
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Appino seems to be a terrific coach, and if you want to develop an elite, competitive program, you let him pick his coaches. Auburn is a good program and should be respected. His kids play hard and they play clean. This is another program to watch in the next few years, kind of on the same path as HS. Lots of good things going on there.
 
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boylanfan33 said:
Agreed. I would like to see a competitive game, but I think you have the point margin pretty accurate, Witty.
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Thanks! I suspect you, Titan and BelviderBuc all have a good grasp on the situation in and around Rockford. Regardless how big RA may be up front, I am sure GW will be ready for this one.
 
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gen22

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chuck998 said:
Appino seems to be a terrific coach, and if you want to develop an elite, competitive program, you let him pick his coaches. Auburn is a good program and should be respected. His kids play hard and they play clean. This is another program to watch in the next few years, kind of on the same path as HS. Lots of good things going on there.
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Agree, but I am not sure the other rps coaches were given the same courtesy of not only choosing their coaches but giving them teaching jobs. For example was the new coach at jefferson able to choose his staff and secure teaching jobs for them if they weren't currently teaching in rockford? The goal is hopefully to improve all the football programs
 
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gen22 said:
Agree, but I am not sure the other rps coaches were given the same courtesy of not only choosing their coaches but giving them teaching jobs. For example was the new coach at jefferson able to choose his staff and secure teaching jobs for them if they weren't currently teaching in rockford? The goal is hopefully to improve all the football programs
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Maybe Appino's success shows the school boards out there how to build a winner. Could be a blue print for others to use
 
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gen22 said:
Agree, but I am not sure the other rps coaches were given the same courtesy of not only choosing their coaches but giving them teaching jobs. For example was the new coach at jefferson able to choose his staff and secure teaching jobs for them if they weren't currently teaching in rockford? The goal is hopefully to improve all the football programs
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I'm not sure what the rules are in Rockford about hiring coaches and their assistants. At GW, the school principal relies on Hetlett to make all those decisions. I don't think the D87 school board gets involved. So, not sure if the issue you point out is at the principal level or school board level. It's an interesting question. However, I'm under the impression that some of the schools in Rockford are smaller than 7A, so perhaps school size and budgets are the issue. Whatever the cause, I'm sure it's bigger than a bake sale or a car wash to fix. Lol.
 
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gen22 said:
Agree, but I am not sure the other rps coaches were given the same courtesy of not only choosing their coaches but giving them teaching jobs. For example was the new coach at jefferson able to choose his staff and secure teaching jobs for them if they weren't currently teaching in rockford? The goal is hopefully to improve all the football programs
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Coach Babcock ( previous Jefferson coach) was allowed to teach while still working on his certification...we see how well that worked out for Jefferson. Also, out of the whole Auburn staff, only 2 of the coaches that started there with Appino found jobs as teachers. The rest of the coaching staff were either already working at Auburn, employed by the district in a non-teaching capacity, or are volunteers. Lastly, any good coach is going to want the flexibility to hire their own assistants-it's common practice.
 
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gen22 said:
Agree, but I am not sure the other rps coaches were given the same courtesy of not only choosing their coaches but giving them teaching jobs. For example was the new coach at jefferson able to choose his staff and secure teaching jobs for them if they weren't currently teaching in rockford? The goal is hopefully to improve all the football programs
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There's some issues at the board level in my eyes. 4-5 years ago east was actually playing decent football (4-5 in back to back years I believe) and then the coach quit/or was fired after his assistants didn't get their stipends. Around the same time jeffersonwas improving and I believe they got rid of the coach to hire Babcock from Rockford college. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the board wanted the HC to be in the building so they let the old guy go, and hen got Babcock and put him in the building.

That turned out pretty poorly. Kids were quitting the team midseason and they had to forfeit games.

Guilfords been ok, guy has been there 10-15 years I believe. Don't know much about the new guy at Jefferson. I believe he used to be an assistant at COD, they looked pretty disjointed on film this year. He has a lot of work to do.

However, the new facilities show the district is making an effort to improve.
 
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RA looks like they have some really good ball players. QB looks like he has some good acceleration and their scat back reminds me of Darren Sproules, really quick and hard to take down. I like the MLB. He has good instincts and flows nicely.

The big dudes on the o line create some nice spaces. I also like their go to wideout. He looks like he has good hands and really good speed.

I think GW has played against this offensive scheme numerous times this year so there won't be any surprises. GW is pretty good covering sideline to sideline with speed as they string out plays well. I don't see as much scoring as they did vs Reavis as GW are much better tacklers.

The interesting part will be the GW offense. RA flows to the ball well which may take away the edge runs. Not sure if the D they ran against Reavis is indicative with two down linemen and LBs 5-6 yards off the ball as they may have shaped it to Reavis. If they run that scheme against GW it will be a long day.

RA looks like a really well disciplined bunch. Good special teams play and very few penalties. I think GW pulls it out but this could be like our Palatine game last year where GW is bottled up for the first 12 minutes before Brodner takes over. That scenario would be perfect.
 
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