Roger Freaking Federer!
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America’s greatest player, Pete Sampras. How would he fare against Federer, in your humble opinions? Out of 10, I’d say Pete would win 4.
Not this tourney ..it was almost too easy ...I always rooted against him I was Roddick guy but once he retired its hard not to want RF run to continue. At his age its amazing but the mens game is a mess right now with Nadal, Murray, Stan, Kei all injured. I got to watch him play in person Centre Court of Wimbledon a few years ago..pretty cool experience
Sounds reasonable. Pete was a great player at his best. Sucks he ended up having injury issues. What makes RF so incredible is the longevity of his excellence. Something to marvel at for sure. And he's such a genuinely great dude.
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When 10 of your slams are on 1 surface it's extremely impressive but it's not impressive enough to top 20 on multiple surfaces regardless of head to head
Love this discussion, btw...I easily go with Fed, but Nadal, Djokovic are BOTH great players toward top of all time list
Novak hasn’t been so great since he stopped juicing. Also, he has a Tiger Wood problem. Can’t stop f***ing the fans. Not good for family/support.
Nadal’s style increases injury probability. And he has trouble developing penetrating shots required in non-clay matches.
Roger had his faults but he has worked extremely hard to evolve his game. His smoothness minimizes wear and tear on his body.
Novak may have been the best player ever at one point but now that he is playing by the rules not so much. And Roger’s longevity and consistency probably will never be matched. It was a privilege to be able to watch him the last 15-20 years.
Nadal’s style increases injury probability. And he has trouble developing penetrating shots required in non-clay matches.
Roger had his faults but he has worked extremely hard to evolve his game. His smoothness minimizes wear and tear on his body.
Novak may have been the best player ever at one point but now that he is playing by the rules not so much. And Roger’s longevity and consistency probably will never be matched. It was a privilege to be able to watch him the last 15-20 years.
Your proof on Novak and the rules, and the interaction with the fans? Not saying there isn’t any... just never seen it
About the time Sharapova was suspended Novak suddenly lost that incredible conditioning edge. He was never suspended but the jig was up.
As far a family issues, you can google it.
The Tennis Club I am member of has a lot of members that go to Indian Wells, French, Wimbledon, US Open as a group. They know a lot of the people and that is what they tell me the problem is. Something definitely happened to him.
As far a family issues, you can google it.
The Tennis Club I am member of has a lot of members that go to Indian Wells, French, Wimbledon, US Open as a group. They know a lot of the people and that is what they tell me the problem is. Something definitely happened to him.
He flat out owns Federer head to head, because he's just better. End of discussion. Take away his injuries and Nadal and he'd have no telling how many majors also.
Nadal owns Federer on clay. He's lost his last 5 matches against Federer. But of course, to Nadal fans, Nadal has never lost a tournament he wasn't injured.
Injuries are a part of the game. Nadal can be better than Federer for a brief period of time but it isn't sustainable form and never has been off of clay. It's not injuries, he just cannot consistently play his best tennis off the dirt. Federer has him figured out now too. Nadal hasn't been able to handle the serve and he hasn't been able to penetrate his improved backhand.
Nadal owns Federer on Clay (13-2), whereas Federer has an (11-9) edge against Nadal on hard court and (2-1) record on grass. Really surprising too, because you would think with his athleticism that the records on those surfaces would be reversed.
I think they're both in the Top 3 or 4 of all time, so I don't have a problem saying they're both fricking amazing!
I'd simply add to this that Nadal's injuries are directly related to his style of play. People have been talking about this since the early stages of his career. He's a great player. But the GOAT? Nah.
Don’t take my endorsement of Roger as a slight to Rafa...both exceptional, one more diverse and long lasting