It seems to me every time we run these, they're successful. It's triple option football -the RB on run, Gavin on the keeper, or the pass. OK nobody will bite on this on 3rd and a mile but otherwise why not run this? GW under center? No. Straight drop back? Unless it's 3rd and long no. I thought this was supposed to be Capt. Kirk's specialty. We finally have the personnel for it. Why aren't we using it more?
Run More RPO's
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You don't post much anymore, but you're right again. Greg and Kirk's conservative game plans suck.
HE NEEDS TO KEEP IT more often (edit ….once would be nice !!!)
Milliseconds count. LB steps/guesses outside for a just a split second maybe Monangai has more room , one less guy to get through. Kyle is having a very good year with opposing MLB’s not even giving the keep wide any thought The power sweep keeper is NOT the same thing !!!!!!!!
Milliseconds count. LB steps/guesses outside for a just a split second maybe Monangai has more room , one less guy to get through. Kyle is having a very good year with opposing MLB’s not even giving the keep wide any thought The power sweep keeper is NOT the same thing !!!!!!!!
Honestly, the conservative game plan was fine. That pick 6 was the difference. We might win with a 2-0 turnover ratio. That was the plan and we almost did it.
Not sure what game you were watching!! Ru had only one decent drive the whole first half, Couldn't run the ball. All possessions except the last resulted in a punt. This type of play calling will result in loses against better competition. Far too conservative. W's d defended the run effectively and RU lost.
The game where if we score a touchdown before the half and everything else goes the same, we win. Not saying the game goes that way but it's a possibility the way our defense was playing.
If you watch the replay on the pick 6, Wisc had 5 guys at the LOS and 6 guys behind them spread across the goal line. They wanted us to run. We should have 3 times including on 4th if we had to.
It seems we have a lot of “conservative game plan was fine but……..” games over the past 4 years.
At what point does it turn into “maybe try an aggressive game plan”?
^^^ This ^^^
Same went for Vedral.. we start a running QB and then don't run him? What was that?
Think of Wimsatt's runs. Outside of broken pass play runs, they are of two varieties..
- follows RB through a hole after a weak play-fake.
- takes a shotgun snap and tucks it and runs outside behind a sweep.. Got 5 yards every time vs Wisky afaik.
Very rarely we see a mesh-handoff play where ne pulls it and keep it. But time after time it seems like the RB gets it and no one is there to stop Wimsatt if he kept it and ran outside.
IMO, we need Wimsatt to take it outside on the mesh handoff (which is the RPO) or start doing bootlegs off a playfake.
And on pass plays we need him to use his legs more and get outside of the rush where the whole D feels threatened and he can either take off or find a target because coverage broke down as he broke the pass rush.
He, and Rutgers OC and coaches, all saw what McCarthy did to us. I would have thought that would have generated some copycat plays with Wimsatt vs Wisky. I was sorely disappointed.
I think Wimsatt has odd footwork and he may as well be throwing on the run. That is, it doesn't seem to me like his accuracy benefits from standing in the pocket. I think we'd get the same accuracy from him moving around... I think he is all arm and gets little benefit or consistency from his footwork. So why not get added pressure on the defense by getting Wimsatt out of the pocket? I'd love it if he became a much more accurate pocket passer... but I just don't see it happening... so let him do what he can do with his legs.
So if we won the turnover battle 2-0, we would have been close? That's a problem and a recipe for failure. GS has very few wins against teams with a winning final record in 1.0 and 0(?) In 2.0.
It does seem Wimsatt is fairly accurate and sees the field well when running, so we should be rolling him out much more.
Your reading ability is lacking with the post. If Gavin doesn’t throw that pick we aren’t 3 scores behind . Our potential to be within 3 pts. is real . And who knows ? The PI was an atrocious call for a team struggling on the offense . Same with the targeting call being reversed. That in 2023 is rarely done but teams such as Wisconsin seem to enjoy that benefit. The no calls on their O line has been an area of my contention going back to the time we first played them. It is time Rutgers take advantage when they are given an opportunity .
Maybe when we have the personel for it. We have a very good defense but they're not very deep. Gavin throwing over the middle or even throwing deep is a recipe for disaster. Being conservative keeps us in games right now, keeps our defense rested and gives us the best chance to win. Iowa and Wisconsin have done it for years.
Not only that.. but teh very premise of "GS has very few wins against teams with a winning final record" is just nonsense.
Half his time here he didn't have the teams that could beat winning teams. And what if he beats a team who ends up 1 game under "winning final record" because we beat em?
In 1.0 he built a team that could beat teams with winning records... but it took time. And it will do so again. To hold his record against top teams against him like anyone else could have done better with what he had is just stupid. I know it sounds like a reasonable stat.. but this is not the NFL where parity is built into the system with a draft and schedules. The college system is the opposite of that. The teams with a history of winning records have all the advantages.
GS has made us better than we were in every way possible.