If you had taken Cousins, I was taking Monk with that pick. A UK version Wall-Monk backcourt would probably be the most entertaining thing in Kentucky history.
Rupp Rafters UK Basketball Draft (Complete)
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1. @LukaszObrzut - Jamal Mashburn, Patrick Patterson, Jamal Murray
2. @Cowtown Cat - Dan Issel, Keith Bogans, Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
3. @Son_Of_Saul - John Wall, DeMarcus Cousins, Jodie Meeks
4. @jrpross - Cliff Hagan, Malik Monk
5. @chroix - Karl Towns, Julius Randle
6. @JHannibalSmith - Ron Mercer, Kyle Macy
7. @Fox2monk - Tayshaun Prince, De'Aaron Fox
8. @drcats2013 - Tony Delk, Goose Givens
9. @RunninRichie - Derek Anderson. Tyler Ulis
10. @DraftCat - Antoine Walker, Kenny Sky Walker
1. @LukaszObrzut - Jamal Mashburn, Patrick Patterson, Jamal Murray
2. @Cowtown Cat - Dan Issel, Keith Bogans, Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
3. @Son_Of_Saul - John Wall, DeMarcus Cousins, Jodie Meeks
4. @jrpross - Cliff Hagan, Malik Monk
5. @chroix - Karl Towns, Julius Randle
6. @JHannibalSmith - Ron Mercer, Kyle Macy
7. @Fox2monk - Tayshaun Prince, De'Aaron Fox
8. @drcats2013 - Tony Delk, Goose Givens
9. @RunninRichie - Derek Anderson. Tyler Ulis
10. @DraftCat - Antoine Walker, Kenny Sky Walker
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Maybe so, but I honestly believe the average player since 1970 or so is way better than the 40’s and 50’s versions. Not to mention the game has changed so much I believe the modern guys have an edge there as well. I can only pick the guys I’ve seen or know a lot about, there isn’t even much film to go and see the Groza’s and such play.Pretty much. My biggest dilemma is deciding between old time players and modern. In the hierarchy of UK greats, there are some old-timers that should probably go before the more modern players but probably won’t get the votes because none of us saw them play.
Exactly. Guys from the 40’s and 50’s championship teams would be destroyed by modern players. But that said, should we try to consider these players in context of when they played? If not, my first round pick of Cliff Hagan is gonna come back to bite me in the butt.
I consider Cliff an elite pick and will vote as such. He was drafted where he should have been, but I typically avoid these players from the 40’s and 50’s because I know a lot of other people won’t vote that way.
But Hagan was transcendent in the same way that Issel was. There's a timelessness surrounding a few of those guys. You got one of them.
Yeah that’s how I look at it. If one team has Ralph Beard and the other one has Wah Wah Jones, it’ll be tough to make an argument which one would have the edge. But Hagan & Issel have a mystique that’s travelled with them through generations.
Just curious. Why is Davis off-limits. Would he have gone #1, probably, but not a lock. Not significantly better than Mashburn & Issel.
Because voters see Anthony Davis or Michael Jordan and vote for that team no matter the roster construction. We've done these drafts in the past and that is what the results shown.
Give me a top 4 all time scorer in school history. I’ll take Keith Bogans.
My favorite player of all time, and one I enjoyed meeting as a kid.
This is difficult bro! I had about 10 guys in mind. That’s what she said!
I'm not sure this would be correct or not. Yeah, things are different but what if you put a player from the 50's let's say and put him in modern basketball now....from day one. Growing up with the advantages of today, training/practicing from their early playing days until they're 20ish and playing with today's rules since they were kids. ????
Is Mashburn (30 years ago) at a big disadvantage to those playing now? Would Issel from 50 years ago be at a disadvantage to Mash? And so on and so on.
It's a question we really can't answer. But, it's interesting thinking about it.
This may be the make or break selections of the entire draft.
Serpentine format not winning me over as a guy dead in the middle.
I was at the 100 Year stuff at the old UK Museum down at Rupp 20 or so years ago. Anyway, I was behind this old timer as we snaked our way through the line of players there signing autographs. We came to Cliff Hagan, and the old timer stuck his hand out to shake Mr Hagan’s hand. While they were shaking hands he said, “You’re the best guard I’ve ever seen play here.” Mr Hagan looked him in the eye and just said, “Damn right.”
It was awesome.
It was awesome.
Patrick Patterson for 1 pick
The other to follow ..
The other to follow ..
I’ll take this guy due to his versatility and because he’s the best open floor player I’ve ever seen in college. Give me MKG.
"That's fitty..." - Jodie Meeks against Tennessee.
I'll take the guy who was supposed to be the missing link on that 2010 team.
Now we have the final piece. Give me Jodie Meeks.
I'll take the guy who was supposed to be the missing link on that 2010 team.
Now we have the final piece. Give me Jodie Meeks.
It's crazy seeing all the talented guys in this draft who have attended Kentucky. To think that we came within inches of nabbing T-Mac, Iverson, Bird, Ray Allen, Ralph Sampson and Dirk is mind-boggling. Getting even half of those guys would have been an embarrassment of historic riches for our program. It already is, even without them. But you add one Bird, one Iverson, and one T-Mac to our prestigious list, and factor in their personalities and love for Kentucky that they already have, and all three would have been fan favorites and likely have gone 1-2-3 in this draft (with the exception of Issel, who likely would have slotted ahead of T-Mac but behind Bird and AI).
Yes correct - those names never came up in the past drafts. I also think it would be a black mark to your team picking a player with zero minutes in college. Wouldn't help your case lol
I was between about 5 people on this one but I’m gonna go with Big O. I can’t pass up having a NPOY as my THIRD best player.
@chroix is up now, unless I’m looking the wrong way again
@chroix is up now, unless I’m looking the wrong way again
Damn it every player I had on my board went this round."That's fitty..." - Jodie Meeks against Tennessee.
I'll take the guy who was supposed to be the missing link on that 2010 team.
Now we have the final piece. Give me Jodie Meeks.
A bunch of good ones went quick for sure
Wow. Kinda surprised at this one. Reed was awesome but there were at least 3 guards I had ahead of him.
A lot of fan favorites went off the board in the 3rd. Was hoping at least one of those guys made it back to me.
I’m probably gonna lose in the first round bc of the hatred for this player. He & my PG, Macy were my heroes as a kid & now I despise his *** as much as anyone. But, the guy was amazing on the court & as good of a SG as we’ve had, IMO. Plus, he’s a perfect fit with Macy & Mercer. Hide the IPhones & give me Rex Chapman. @Fox2monk OTC.
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Was on my short list. Great grab, and you should not be penalized for his insanity lol