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cawoodsct

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Clarke picks Kaymer, Westwood and Pieters to fill out his team. That makes half the team rookies playing on US soil.

Who are your 4 US picks?




2016 Ryder Cup qualifiers (*not played in RC before)
Europe
USA
Rory McIlroy (NI) Dustin Johnson
Danny Willett (Eng)* Jordan Spieth
Henrik Stenson (Swe) Phil Mickelson
Chris Wood (Eng)* Patrick Reed
Sergio Garcia (Spa) Jimmy Walker
Justin Rose (Eng) Brooks Koepka*
Rafael Cabrera-Bello (Spa)* Brandt Snedeker
Andy Sullivan (Eng)* Zach Johnson
Matt Fitzpatrick (Eng)* (US captain has four picks)
Lee Westwood
Thomas Pieters*
Martin Kaymer



My captains picks:
Fowler
Watson
Furyk
(wait and see what develops the next 3 weeks for last pick if someone gets hot)
 

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Fowler
Thomas
Furyk.

Fowler is a given. And I think DLIII has made it clear he wants Jim. And I agree. Gives them a good elder statesman leader in the players room that Phil doesn't give.

Thomas would be a wildcard but we know he gets along great with Jordan and Rickie so I think I'd take a chance on him.

Would love to see JB get back on track next few weeks and get that last spot.

I just wonder if Bubba is a detriment to the team with his attitude?
 

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I'm taking Daniel Berger, Matt Kuchar, Bubba Watson and JB Holmes. I fully expect RIckie Fowler to get a pick, and wouldn't be surprised to see Jim Furyk get one as well. I just think taking those 2 players would be handing the trophy to the Europeans.
 
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Can see DLIII going full milk and toast with Furyk and Kuchar. Similar players to him. Dull and non-controversial. No fire. As Chase stated, Furyks record is a good sample size to say "pass".
 
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Despite his recent struggles, JB should be picked well ahead of Fowler...

~MC at Masters
~MC at Players
~MC at Memorial
~46th at Open
~33rd at PGA
...and the 74 when he shoulda/coulda won this past week was fugly.
 

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Give someone a chance that is not afraid, instead of the same guys that have proven they can't get the job done.
 
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CP's

Matt Kuchar (Playing solid lately)
Justin Thomas
Ricky Fowler
Gary Woodland. ( I may catch some **** for this, but the kid has game) I would rather try and maybe still lose with some fresh faces. I can not stand watching Bubba play, these young kids will actually act like they want to be there and will be more of a TEAM.
 
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No matter how well Furyk is playing he is abysmal in Ryder Cup play. The US really needs new blood on its team because the past guys simply have not gotten it done.
 

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Don't get the love for Fowler getting a pick. Dude has been off for a while. Horrible in the majors this year, and not a great showing at the Olympic either. I like Fowler, be he's not getting a pick from me this year based on recent play.

Furyk is playing well, but his Ryder Cup track record keeps me away from him.

One of them has to make the team, IMO, because they are still the best we got left to choose from. I guess Furyk gets the nod for recent play and Ryder Cup experience. As for the others, I think I would take Holmes and Kuchar. Holmes has done well this year, solid at the majors. Kuchar gets the nod with the Olympic bronze. I guess I take Bubba, but faith in him is weak too.
 

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Matt Kuchar (Playing solid lately)
Justin Thomas
Ricky Fowler
Gary Woodland. ( I may catch some **** for this, but the kid has game) I would rather try and maybe still lose with some fresh faces. I can not stand watching Bubba play, these young kids will actually act like they want to be there and will be more of a TEAM.
I like the thinking behind the Woodland pick. Personally, I'd pick someone else but, that strategy is the one we need to go too. If Love picks someone for "veteran leadership" I'm betting money on the Europeans to win.

Daniel Berger is the guy I'd like to see get named to the team. He hasn't been mentioned much, but he just seems like a guy that would thrive in the Ryder Cup.
 

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Bubba is 5-5-1, which is pretty meh. As big of an ******* as he is, I think I'd rather keep him off the team.
 

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Easy picks are Bubba and JB...with as long as Hazeltine can play in late September/early October, you need as many bombers on the team as you can get

I'd probably go Kuch over Furyk for the third spot.

4th spot would be Rickie's, but he has to earn it with good play at the Deutsche Bank and the BMW. That finish at Bethpage was UGLY, and was eerily similar of the stuff we did down the stretch at Medinah.

If he can't get it done, I'd go with young, new blood for the last spot- Daniel Berger, Kevin Chappell, or Justin Thomas. I think all three are brash and confident enough to thrive in the Ryder Cup, especially on US soil.
 

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Why haven't I seen/heard Scotty Piercy's name a single time? Dude is a baller, and 13th in points.
 

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And on that note, why the hell are we playing the Europeans on our turf at f'ing Hazeltine in October??

"Hey, a lot of these Euros are used to playing in 50-60 degree weather, whereas the only time our guys play when it's below 80 degrees is at The Open. We should be good hosts and let them play somewhere over here that has similar weather...let's make them feel right at home!"

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Pretty much a must win this year after having Love captain again, using a task force, new qualifying methods, new times to pick the wildcards, playing on home soil, the Euros having half the team as rookies. We lose this one and what do you turn to? I mean our psyche is already bad enough and to go this overboard and lose, again?
 

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It doesn't matter who they pick, we don't stand a chance. Europeans are too passionate and want it way more than any American on the team. Unless Jason day can change nationalities and become American chalk this one up as an L.
But if I had to pick gimme Justin Thomas, kisner, woodland, and Ryan Moore just to switch things up. Try to find some guys with a little fire in them, couldn't hurt and is what we need.
 

cawoodsct

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No captain will pick 4 rookies. I know nothing has worked, but you cant do that.
 

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No captain will pick 4 rookies. I know nothing has worked, but you cant do that.
I know what ur saying, but there's enough veterans included in the other 8 so why not? Or just go ahead and take furyk bubba kuchar and rickie and let them beat us like a drum.
 

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Kisner is a bulldog, I think he'd be a great pick.

If he was just in a little better form right now (not in Cawood's top 25 list for the past 3 months), I'd be banging the Kisner drum hard. Love his game. But, you can't justify picking him over some other guys right now.
 
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Why haven't I seen/heard Scotty Piercy's name a single time? Dude is a baller, and 13th in points.

I think he'd be a solid pick. A guy that can win a tournament where the winner gets a million dollars and the loser gets zero dollars has the stones to play in the Ryder Cup, IMO.
 
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Another big stat for JB is he's 7th in birdie average. That's huge in match play, especially four ball. Bubba is 28th. DJ is 1st. Koepka is 6th. JB/Bubba and Koepka/DJ in the 2 four balls will give you at least 2.5 points. Pick guys that are going to make a great pairing with someone. We have to build a team the Euros can't match. Euros simply cannot match JB/Bubba and Koepka/Spieth at the same time. They don't have the huge hitters.
 
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Fowler
Thomas
Furyk.

Fowler is a given. And I think DLIII has made it clear he wants Jim. And I agree. Gives them a good elder statesman leader in the players room that Phil doesn't give.

Thomas would be a wildcard but we know he gets along great with Jordan and Rickie so I think I'd take a chance on him.

Would love to see JB get back on track next few weeks and get that last spot.

I just wonder if Bubba is a detriment to the team with his attitude?
JB because Hazeltine is a very long course and long hitters have an advantage. It's simple really
 

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Really think J.B. has a strong argument. Furyk's 58 a few weeks ago was on one of the shortest courses on the tour. Furyk has played in 9 Ryder Cups and has a losing record in 8 of them. Why would they repeat that? Similarly, Fowler hasn't been good. He has never won a match in 3 Ryder Cups. In last year's Presidents Cup he was 1-3. He was killed in the single's match (6 and 5) similarly as the way Rory killed him in their single's match in the Ryder.

J.B. was 2-0-1 in the 2008 Ryder Cup and could have easily been 3-0-0 because he in Boo Weakley were 1 up going into the 18th hole on the one match they halved. He was 2-2-1 in the Presidents Cup and should have been 3-1-1 but for Bubba missing a short put on the 18th hole in alternating putt.

Sounds like Love is going to pick Furyk, Fowler, Bubba and Kuchar. Hope not.

Will the Europeans who always choke in the majors like Westwood and Garcia once again be clutch in the Ryder Cup matches on Friday and Saturday. At least Poulter won't be there playing like the greatest golfer ever when he never does close to that in a major. Like the European team, however, with Rose and Stenson.
 

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Davis Love was the biggest choker on tour for years. Why he was chosen as captain is confusing. Pick some young guns that hit it a mile, match play is different than stroke play. Why play the same older guys that has always played in Ryder Cups and done nothing. Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results is crazy.
 
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JB because Hazeltine is a very long course and long hitters have an advantage. It's simple really

No **** Sherlock. I know that much. But his game is a damned mess right now. I hope he gets picked but it will be hard to argue if he's left off. He's missed the cut in 6 of 9 events since the Players Championship.
 

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I think Kuch earned his spot. He was pretty damn clutch in Rio. I do not get why no love for Woodland ? Kid can hit it a mile, not the greatest putter, but would like to see him make it. He won't. Thomas, Kisner and a couple others are considered ahead of him.
 
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Woodland is one of my favorite players -- be cool if he'd win once in awhile though. Crazy talent/athlete. Been on the "due to breakout" list so long I'm afraid it's about to expire...
 

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Would really like to see some new blood and not some of the old names who have lost before. Justin Thomas gets a lot of birdies so he would be good matched up with a par machine when they play their own ball in the foresomes. So would J.B. Holmes. And they're both long off the tee. So is Woodland. Davis Love was long off the tee so maybe he'll value that.
 

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Since he is an assistant captain ill post this interview here.