Good news boys! This is the last year anyone will ever pick us to finish last in the West!
GoodBad news boys! This is the last year anyone will ever pick us to finishlastseventh inthe West football!
Yep. We’re going to 9 games as soon as ESPN writes another check. This is probably a 1-year deal.will likely go to 9 game and the 3-6 model in 2025 Ross says. So we may have to sweat out then when the time comes
Yep. We’re going to 9 games as soon as ESPN writes another check. This is probably a 1-year deal.
This all about pressuring ESPN to increase the TV contract.Everything held up tells me Sankey has been bit in the butt by Saban. If we go to 9 games, I think Saban gets his wish to swap LSU for MSU. So any way you cut it, BAMA will be in our "every year" future.
Exactly. The idea that Saban killed the 9-game schedule is a fantasy. If the money is there, we'll play 9 and Bama's permanent opponents will be UT, AU and LSU. If it's not, we'll play 8.I think some of yall are giving Saban too much credit.
If ESPN ponied up for another conference game, we would already be at 9 conference games and there's no way ESPN ponies up without some guaranteed 'marquee' matchups like Bama-LSU and Texas-Texas A&M. Some of the conference leaders may fear Saban, but they love money more.
I’ve noticed that when it comes to this topic some on this board have themselves convinced saban is behind the scenes getting done whatever he wants. There are no reports of that but it’s what they 100% believe.I think some of yall are giving Saban too much credit.
If ESPN ponied up for another conference game, we would already be at 9 conference games and there's no way ESPN ponies up without some guaranteed 'marquee' matchups like Bama-LSU and Texas-Texas A&M. Some of the conference leaders may fear Saban, but they love money more.
If it makes common sense, then they sure as hell won't do it. We'll eventually go with whatever ESPN offers -- but I wonder... the way that Disney is bleeding money, this could turn into an interesting bidding war with some of the other networks. I know that may sound absurd but come back and see me in a couple of years. Disney lost billions of dollars. Billions.A 1+7+1 arrangement where you have to play another major conference opponent (or BYU or Notre Dame) just makes the most sense to me. That way, over a four year period every SEC school plays every other SEC team both home and away. Everyone is in the same boat.
I also like that it means schedules are varied year to year (if you play on a seasons 1 and 3 or 2 and 4 basis). I realize we’re in a conference but it’s getting boring playing the same seven schools every single year under the current set up.
A 3+6 nine game schedule means teams are going to have wildly unbalanced schedules.It also means it’ll take at least three years to play every other league team.
ETA - apparently my math is faulty. You can still play everyone home and away over four years in a 3+6. I still like the 1+7+1 model better.
I’ve noticed that when it comes to this topic some on this board have themselves convinced saban is behind the scenes getting done whatever he wants. There are no reports of that but it’s what they 100% believe.
Someone smarter than me may correct me, but I think the SEC is exclusively with Disney until 2034, No matter how many games they play.- but I wonder... the way that Disney is bleeding money, this could turn into an interesting bidding war with some of the other networks. I know that may sound absurd but come back and see me in a couple of years. Disney lost billions of dollars. Billions.
Disney lost billions during Covid, when the parks were completely shuttered. They have been profitable since. They lost 2.8 billion in 2020. Made $2 billion in 21, $3.1 billion in 22 and $1.2 billion in the first quarter of 2023. At the end of the first quarter they had a trailing 12 month EBITDA of over $12 billion and cash on hand of $10.4 billion.If it makes common sense, then they sure as hell won't do it. We'll eventually go with whatever ESPN offers -- but I wonder... the way that Disney is bleeding money, this could turn into an interesting bidding war with some of the other networks. I know that may sound absurd but come back and see me in a couple of years. Disney lost billions of dollars. Billions.
People have been saying that for 15 years now. I see no indication he's ready to retire. I bet when he does, half the coaches in the SEC today won't be where they are now.Saban’s got a year or 2 left, max. .
Saban has 8 more years. Don't kid yourself.Saban’s got a year or 2 left, max. No one gives a 17 what he thinks either way. Kinda stunning how few people are noticing him rapidly slipping into grandpa mode.
Techincally, they bled cash in 2022. Used over $3 billion. But that was because they invested a lot in their parks and resorts and paid down a lot of debt. They generated $6 billion from operations, spent $5 billion on new parks/resorts, paid down $4 billion of debt. They're a very successful company. Heck, even the big loss in 2020 came from a $5 billion one-time impairment charges and not from true operations.Disney lost billions during Covid, when the parks were completely shuttered. They have been profitable since. They lost 2.8 billion in 2020. Made $2 billion in 21, $3.1 billion in 22 and $1.2 billion in the first quarter of 2023. At the end of the first quarter they had a trailing 12 month EBITDA of over $12 billion and cash on hand of $10.4 billion.
They are not bleeding cash, no matter how much people on Facebook would want you to believe they are. Now the profits are down compared to pre Disney +, you want to criticize that then that is perfectly fine and accurate. But it’s definitely not accurate to say they are bleeding cash.
Thank you. Just a damn pet peeve at this point, when clowns are like 'SaBiNz this, or sAbAn that", as if Sankey really gives two sh*ts.Saban’s got a year or 2 left, max. No one gives a 17 what he thinks either way. Kinda stunning how few people are noticing him rapidly slipping into grandpa mode.
Well damn, that means Barrett Sallee will have to come up w/ at least 1 new topic to write about after that because we were assured every summer to get him picking us lastGood news boys! This is the last year anyone will ever pick us to finish last in the West!
Well, he'll always have "Ole Miss is a dark horse".Well damn, that means Barrett Sallee will have to come up w/ at least 1 new topic to write about after that because we were assured every summer to get him picking us last
You're correct. Disney (via ESPN, ABC, SEC Network, Hulu, etc.) has the exclusive video broadcast rights to all SEC home games, no matter the opponent.Someone smarter than me may correct me, but I think the SEC is exclusively with Disney until 2034, No matter how many games they play.
Actually, I do think he could probably pull a string and get MSU added to the Bama permanents, rather than LSU. I've said this before. I don't know that TV is looking at it having to have Bama/LSU every single year. I'd be interested to know the actual facts there. I mean ESPN isn't even willing to pay for the 9th game, are they really looking at individual matchups? I don't think they really care much when they have all that inventory anyway.Exactly. The idea that Saban killed the 9-game schedule is a fantasy. If the money is there, we'll play 9 and Bama's permanent opponents will be UT, AU and LSU. If it's not, we'll play 8.
Theres no question Bama-LSU is going to draw a much bigger than Bama-State will. That’s not even close. And this whole thing is being driven by tv viewership.Actually, I do think he could probably pull a string and get MSU added to the Bama permanents, rather than LSU. I've said this before. I don't know that TV is looking at it having to have Bama/LSU every single year. I'd be interested to know the actual facts there. I mean ESPN isn't even willing to pay for the 9th game, are they really looking at individual matchups? I don't think they really care much when they have all that inventory anyway.
Hopefully, this is a new age and time with so much money on the table. Because historically, the SEC and the Bama (and other powers) have absolutely screwed MSU because they could. That was our role, bend over and take it. So we will see. That may still be our role, in football.
That's a fair point.For the SEC to make Bama-State a permanent game, it would have to abandon the guiding principle of having 2 permanent opponents from your tier & 1 from the other tier. Of course, they could by majority vote, but I doubt they will. It’s not only the most fair way to do it, it also produces the most compelling games for TV (which again is what’s driving this whole thing). Even if you buy Savant’s lame argument that despite their record, Tennessee is really an upper tier team, someone has to move to the lower tier. That someone is Auburn. So you’re right where you started with needing an upper tier team for their 3rd permanent opponent.
I've thought about that too. Saban is about to retire, and they'll fall back to the pack. However, aTm has always had money and bought players, so I see it is as more of the same, they'll rise up from time to time but not consistently. Bama has a much longer history of just being better than us all the damn time, even in down years. And they seem to correct their coaching hires quicker and keep these long tenured studs.ironically, for all the worrying about getting Bama as a permanent opponent, the one we probably will get (A&M) may be worse for us. They’ve got a lot more money than Alabama. With NIL, if they ever make a decent coaching hire, they’ll be competing for national titles.
I get it that winning isn't everything....but christ.I actually like playing BAMA every year. .
I get what you’re saying, but I think with 12 teams in the tourney, if you’re an 11-1 (and maybe 10-2) or better SEC team, you’re probably getting in, regardless of whether you beat Alabama, of if they’re even on your schedule.I think playing Bama ever year is our best and maybe only chance to ever win a NC. We don't have history to boost us in any of the necessary polls. In the case of that cinderella season beating Bama will help. They have kept out other conference schools and tried to keep TCU out this past year. If you have that W over a strong Bama team it weighs heavily. And your gonna have to probably beat them at some point during any cinderella season and I would rather face them in Starkville than at a neutral site.
Disney lost billions during Covid, when the parks were completely shuttered. They have been profitable since. They lost 2.8 billion in 2020. Made $2 billion in 21, $3.1 billion in 22 and $1.2 billion in the first quarter of 2023. At the end of the first quarter they had a trailing 12 month EBITDA of over $12 billion and cash on hand of $10.4 billion.
They are not bleeding cash, no matter how much people on Facebook would want you to believe they are. Now the profits are down compared to pre Disney +, you want to criticize that then that is perfectly fine and accurate. But it’s definitely not accurate to say they are bleeding cash.
Clearly.I don't know much about business