Scheyer’s last three tournaments…

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This is just dumb.

What Scheyer is doing at Duke is what should be happening here. Most every year with a legitimate shot to win it all. All three of those years Duke has been one of the favorites, if not the favorite, to win it all. You give me that for UK, I’ll take it all day.
This is correct. Problem is, our current coach doesn't recruit or coach at an elite level. It's just sorta "meh" with both. Which, not shockingly, the results are just kinda "meh". Kinda describes the program as a whole currently.
 

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He had a much better setup. He was the coach in waiting behind a legend and then got the easy handoff. Pope got a coach abandoning ship and taking all the cargo with him. Sheyer has given no indication he could have jumped in at UK any better. In fact, he lost to Pope last year while arguably having superior talent. The two players at the top of the NBA’s rookie of the year ballot were his to lose with.
The coach we hired was a sitting P5 conference head coach. Wonder why his players didn't follow him?
 
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Calipari was not in danger of going anywhere after the 2019 season and a loss to Auburn which was similar to the UNC State loss. Definitely a restless fanbase with the near misses (2015 and 2017) and all the talent we had and only a single title to show for it. There was a lot more to Cal’s demise with the fans however than what’s going on with scheyer. As long as Nike keeps the recruiting train going to Duke they are going to be in the conversation every year regardless who the coach is.
 

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Scheyer is recruiting his *** off and getting big time players there. He's winning the ACC and the tournaments. He's going very far in the tournament. They haven't lost to St. Peters or Oakland. Yes there is a choke factor going on, but he's doing much better than coaches that have decades of experience.

I don't even like the dude, but we aren't in the positioning to be laughing at Duke's problems.
All true. And he's not getting turbo clocked in the tournament either.
 

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I’m sure Will Wade, TJ Otzleberger, Jai Lucas, Nate Oates would all go 40-0 with Duke’s resources, NIL, talent, etc…

FAAAAAAARRRR JOHN SHAAAAARRRRR!

FAAAAAAARRRRR DUKE’s athletic administration for not hiring a bigger superstar coach!
This board needs to FAARRR posters who are still doing FAARRR posts in 2026.

Yeesh, some of you dopes have no clue when a joke is played out. That lame bit grew painfully stale well over a decade ago.
 
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What


You obviously don't like Pope or like him but think he shouldn't have been hired. Either way, here's an honest question for you. What do you think Pope's record would be if he had that same Duke team at Kentucky? Me personally, I think Pope could coach actual talent at end game situations better than Scheyer. Pope's problem is recruiting & he's never gonna have the same talent as Duke. The way it looks now, Keegan Brown will build our rosters in his analytical vision & he had a big hand in helping build the team Pope's 1st year here. If you haven't read the article already on how Keegan Brown will build a team here then you should, its rather interesting. I hope it works.
Pope better hope it works too. That first team was nothing special, btw. Even at full strength they had some head scratching losses. Also lacked any sort of depth at all.
 

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This board needs to FAARRR posters who are still doing FAARRR posts in 2026.

Yeesh, some of you dopes have no clue when a joke is played out. That lame bit grew painfully stale well over a decade ago.
Can I still say that Rick Barnes has taken his name out of consideration for the Final Four??
 
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This board needs to FAARRR posters who are still doing FAARRR posts in 2026.

Yeesh, some of you dopes have no clue when a joke is played out. That lame bit grew painfully stale well over a decade ago.

nah…

As Kentucky fans and keepers of “Blue Bloods” it is our birth right and responsibility to fire coaches who don’t uphold the standards.

Even coaches of other programs.

Shaaaaarrr has to go like Hubert and Pope.

Elites 8 and FFs have to have UK, Duke, and UNC every year or it is a failure.

If Hurley doesn’t win another one FAAAAARRRR HIS A$$ too!
 

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Getting that talent is a big, big part of the coaching.
That is true but Scheyer's recent success isn't exactly some super hard work recruiting against major programs. How hard was it to get the Boozer twins and Flagg? Flagg was made for Duke and we all know the story of the twins. How about this recruiting pitch? Come to Duke and ESPN will anoint you the greatest ever and you will even get your own national TV commercial! That kind of stuff isnn't a hard sell
 
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That is true but Scheyer's recent success isn't exactly some super hard work recruiting against major programs. How hard was it to get the Boozer twins and Flagg? Flagg was made for Duke and we all know the story of the twins. How about this recruiting pitch? Come to Duke and ESPN will anoint you the greatest ever and you will even get your own national TV commercial! That kind of stuff isnn't a hard sell
Yeah...I remember when recruiting to UK wasn't a "hard sell" either. Excuses are just that, excuses. Dude goes and gets talent.
 

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You'll never shut me up it takes 5 seconds to make a new account censorship boy
I prefer antisemites be given a forum to display their depraved ignorance. I just don’t want this to be that forum. Your first post was dumber than any other post I have read in weeks. And I have read too many dumb posts. I feel sorry for you and your masquerade. I suspect your dad was a brutal man who treated you poorly and you are now really scarred as a result. Really sad, but not an excuse.
 

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I prefer antisemites be given a forum to display their depraved ignorance. I just don’t want this to be that forum. Your first post was dumber than any other post I have read in weeks. And I have read too many dumb posts. I feel sorry for you and your masquerade. I suspect your dad was a brutal man who treated you poorly and you are now really scarred as a result. Really sad, but not an excuse.
Nah it's just a natural reaction to their behavior think again. I forgot we're not in another forever war for the Jew
 

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Yeah...I remember when recruiting to UK wasn't a "hard sell" either. Excuses are just that, excuses. Dude goes and gets talent.
Facts is facts. And UK has often been a bit of a hard sell on different levels. Tubby couldn't get it done. But, had he been at Duke do you think the Boozer twins and Flagg would have gone to UK? LOL
 

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Pope better hope it works too. That first team was nothing special, btw. Even at full strength they had some head scratching losses. Also lacked any sort of depth at all.
All true, however, I always felt like that team could hang with any team with their ability to shoot the 3, it's a damn shame that Butler got hurt so early & Robinson hurt his wrist late in the season. The roster for next season is going to be interesting.
 

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UK fans would easily love those results. Final 4s, Elite 8s, conference championships, yearly cycle of elite recruits who will play in the league and get you more recruiting clout.

Duke will be a problem for a long time. We used to be that "problem".
 
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2024: Up 8 points at halftime in the Elite Eight over an 11-seed NC State you dominated in the regular season, with a Final Four ahead of you. Team totally collapses.

2025: With Cooper Flagg, the best player maybe in college basketball history (at least according to the media) you are up 14 over Houston in the Final Four -still up 9 with two minutes to go -and lose.

2026: Up 19 in the Elite Eight, 14 with about nine minutes to go, and lose, despite having the best player in Boozer and being the #1 overall seed.

All that follows a blowout loss to Tennessee in the round of 32 his first year.

Does a coach survive that at Kentucky? Especially a coach replacing a program building legend? I think the fan base would be in total revolt.
Just crazy that he was staring two titles in the face and he choked in epic fashion. I love it. His results are still incredible, just not what the should have been. He should have 3 final 4’s and a title by now.
 

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Just crazy that he was staring two titles in the face and he choked in epic fashion. I love it. His results are still incredible, just not what the should have been. He should have 3 final 4’s and a title by now.
Let's check back in a week, and there might be a coach who HAS achieved that 3 final 4s and THREE titles in 4 years!
 
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Just playing the other side, as some of the sport's commentators have pointed out, Scheyer fell short with 2 of the most highly regarded recruits in years. Cam and Cooper were considered rare talents who should have carried Duke, with all their other talented players, to a title.

Yeah, as long as Duke continues to get THAT level of talent, they should "break through." But, what happens when the talent level drops a notch or two? Does "Calipari without the title" fall as far as Cal did in his final years at UK?
I think the difference between Scheyer and Calipari in regard to chances of winning a championship is that Duke retains very good players year-to-year. If you can stack good recruiting classes year-to-year with retention, rather than roll the roster over every year, that's a much better situation. Statistically, being led by a freshman would seem to make it a lot more difficult to win it all - although I can't remember a freshman having a bigger impact (positive minus negative) on winning than Boozer - but I think Scheyer's primary goal is to win a title and therefore he will be willing to alter his approach or methods if he deems it necessary to win.
 
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I hate Duke as much as anyone and I take great pleasure watching their fanbase get crushed.
But, if you don’t think Scheyer has them rolling along as the premier program in college basketball-you’re wrong. Duke is staying in the top 5 all year, hosting game days and winning the most games ever the last 3 seasons.
Sheyer has relied heavily on Freshmen and crazy things happen with that inexperience.
Kentucky’s rightful place is there with Duke at the top of the college basketball world, we just have to work to claim it.
Duke is going to have their coach for 25 years and win 4-5 titles. We’ve got to get our stuff together to mitigate that.
 

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Just playing the other side, as some of the sport's commentators have pointed out, Scheyer fell short with 2 of the most highly regarded recruits in years. Cam and Cooper were considered rare talents who should have carried Duke, with all their other talented players, to a title.

Yeah, as long as Duke continues to get THAT level of talent, they should "break through." But, what happens when the talent level drops a notch or two? Does "Calipari without the title" fall as far as Cal did in his final years at UK?
I guess we will have to see.
 
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