Teachers protesting in Frankfort today. You can't make this **** up.
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I worked today. All virtual. Kids struggling. They want back in person. Most teachers I know want their students back in person. Those teachers who are protesting should find another career. (That maybe harsh, I don’t know). Education is essential. Hypocrisy of it is maddening. They are fine with students working shifts in service to them but can’t provide in person education. Joke.
I’m thinking Fayette County has no intentions on going back until they have vaccines and at least offered them to their employees. Then at that point that would release them from liability?
Protesting racial injustice-good
Protesting losing your livelihood due to arbitrary lockdowns-bad
Protesting for kids to play sports-bad.
Protesting teacher pensions-good
Protesting kids going back to school-bad
Celebrating Trump losing-good
Try to keep up.
Protesting losing your livelihood due to arbitrary lockdowns-bad
Protesting for kids to play sports-bad.
Protesting teacher pensions-good
Protesting kids going back to school-bad
Celebrating Trump losing-good
Try to keep up.
I am thinking that if you’re all that concerned about your health, maybe an outside protest on a cold rainy December day is not the best decision.
We’re supposed to get an email this week to tell them if we want the vaccine or not.
I like my pension, but that’s because I’m damn near 25 years in. I don’t see why anyone cares if they make it a normal retirement package for new teachers.
A little inside baseball for you all.
In early January, we hope to have specific details about when the vaccine will be available for FCPS employees. This will help us determine a timeline for returning to in-person learning.
Sounds like the JCPS plan.
In early January, we hope to have specific details about when the vaccine will be available for FCPS employees. This will help us determine a timeline for returning to in-person learning.
Sounds like the JCPS plan.
I noted in another thread that the governor drops the ball here by not defining what "aggressive hybrid" and such means. Like is that 20% capacity? 25%? 33%? Kicking this to local districts makes this a mess.
With the governor's mandate that schools also have to accommodate at-risk educators, I wonder what situation that leaves schools in as well. You have to define what that is, give time for educators to apply, and then you have to figure out where that leaves you with a staff.
What's the kicker is that state testing is still scheduled to take place in April as per usual.
With the governor's mandate that schools also have to accommodate at-risk educators, I wonder what situation that leaves schools in as well. You have to define what that is, give time for educators to apply, and then you have to figure out where that leaves you with a staff.
What's the kicker is that state testing is still scheduled to take place in April as per usual.
Bingo..that tells you right there they are not going back until vaccines are given.
Since the testing waivers are done at the federal level, I’d say the new administration will let everyone off the hook this year.
Interesting. Do you know if only certain school employees received or all? Some teachers are saying they have only received an email saying they need to let them know if they want the vaccine or not.
Seems like they declined to rule bc it ends tomorrow and they don't think he'll continue it but said they can bring it back if he does reinstate the mandate. That sound about right, lawballs?
If I'm reading that right the majority agreed with Danville and they have left it on the sideline incase he tried to stop them again. Sounds like Alito and Gorsuch were not fans of the mandates.
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You want to test for the virus at 1.5 million a day, but don’t want test our children to see exactly how far behind this lockdown let them.
Testing this year is most critical. You don’t want to know the results of a year of virtual instruction.
I concur. IMHO testing is more crucial this year than in all other past years combined. We don’t want to repeat this arbitrary BS with schools when Covid-22 Electric Bugaloo strikes.
Thing is, those tests aren't what is used to figure that stuff out. They are used to basically just compare school districts. Internal testing like MAP (which assesses reading and math) districts can do independently and can show where schools stand on that stuff.
Like in high school IIRC juniors would be assessed on history for the state. But they weren't assessed on that in 9th grade so there's no comparison to be had there. And you wouldn't be testing this year's 10th graders in it, which means that when they take it next year you still don't have any measuring stick.
Also, if districts do hybrid or stay virtual how are they going to test in the first place? And how are those tests even going to be valid?
Sounds about right to me. Compare the districts & schools that had in person school with those that didn’t. Then compare that to the difference between those districts/schools in past years. Sounds like exactly what needs to happen.
What am I missing?
Well since districts that did a lot of in-person were private they wouldn't be taking those tests from the state.
And comparing to past years is apples and oranges. Different students, demographics, etc.
And as I said above, how are you going to administer a valid state test virtually? It won't be secure and would be a HUGE waste of taxpayer dollars.
Weren’t there several public schools in KY that went in person or hybrid until Andy’s EO?
Comparing past years might not be perfect but it would give you an idea if there happened to be a significant gap change. No? Might not be a significant difference. But it seems like that would possibly be one way to measure it.
You saying that administering a state test virtually would be effed up (which I’m sure is true) sums up the entire current virtual schooling deal in a nutshell. Kids should be in school.
But then again, the original topic said that the testing would be in April. Surely the state tests could be administered in person by then.
Comparing past years might not be perfect but it would give you an idea if there happened to be a significant gap change. No? Might not be a significant difference. But it seems like that would possibly be one way to measure it.
You saying that administering a state test virtually would be effed up (which I’m sure is true) sums up the entire current virtual schooling deal in a nutshell. Kids should be in school.
But then again, the original topic said that the testing would be in April. Surely the state tests could be administered in person by then.
Wanna throw another wrinkle in the testing thing? This year it’s all supposed to be done on the computer. That’ll be fun (ifnitnhappens
KPREP is a flawed test but would show some comparisons between districts but I’d bet you dollars to donuts that the state would not release scores in Sept ‘21 like they usually do. Not to mention the damn test changes on average every 3-4 years anyway.
MAP is basically an IQ test or “I know how to take a test” test. There’s never a surprise on a MAP test.
ACT/SAT are the closest to a pure assessment that you can compare student to student, class to class, school to school, district to district, state to state. But you don’t find out those scores until 11th grade or later. Not to mention, they’re not based on each state’s curriculum.
In other words, assessments are just a mess in general and should be taken with a grain of salt when the scores come out.
The issue this year will be growth. MAP can show that, but the limitations listed above will make it hard to find real meaning in the results.
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KPREP is a flawed test but would show some comparisons between districts but I’d bet you dollars to donuts that the state would not release scores in Sept ‘21 like they usually do. Not to mention the damn test changes on average every 3-4 years anyway.
MAP is basically an IQ test or “I know how to take a test” test. There’s never a surprise on a MAP test.
ACT/SAT are the closest to a pure assessment that you can compare student to student, class to class, school to school, district to district, state to state. But you don’t find out those scores until 11th grade or later. Not to mention, they’re not based on each state’s curriculum.
In other words, assessments are just a mess in general and should be taken with a grain of salt when the scores come out.
The issue this year will be growth. MAP can show that, but the limitations listed above will make it hard to find real meaning in the results.
Thank you for coming to my TedTalk.
We need testing now more than ever. Everyone needs to know how bad having the schools shut down is for poor kids, mostly minorities.
They should just do a Tik Tok test this year. The student with the best tik tok video wins a free trip to Disney plus an appearance on Ellen.
During these uncertain times, you can’t ask children to take a real test.
During these uncertain times, you can’t ask children to take a real test.
I thought Kentucky fixed that when they kicked the other governor out of office. It is still a problem? If so, why?
Bevin had the pension issue heading the right way after the years of corruption from Andy's dad. The problem was the teachers didn't like the plan and that Bevin hurt their feelings. Andy's approach has been virtually (no pun intended) non-existent.
He seems to be waiting for Joe Biden and the Washington DC democrats to come up with the funding. Most Democrat controlled states are deep in debt and think a bail out is coming.
Exactly right!
Actually this is a little off topic, but the US government is spending us into bankruptcy. Guess who is gonna pay for it? Yep, I’m expecting my Roth 401k to get hit with taxes down the road even though it’s already been taxed or worse, the government will seize some of our money from banks and retirement accounts.
All to pay for socialism.
Our superintendent has been pretty good to want kids in school full time. He released a video message with details yesterday:
Virtual until the 11th because the Governor said we will get a Christmas spike.
-Expectation is hybrid if only in red but they need time to get the grouping together for hybrid.
-In person if orange.
But he said a few times they probably won’t know what the Governor will recommend until next week.
Virtual until the 11th because the Governor said we will get a Christmas spike.
-Expectation is hybrid if only in red but they need time to get the grouping together for hybrid.
-In person if orange.
But he said a few times they probably won’t know what the Governor will recommend until next week.