SEC B1G Expansion

[BigBlue8]

I find coference expansion to be a very interesting topic. I believe that the SEC will add 4 teams from the ACC, and it will happen sooner than one might think. The B1G will also add teams from the ACC to get to a 20 team conference. The ACC teams can avoid the exit fee and GOR fee if the conference disolves. It will take 8 teams for that to happen. Currently their are 7 teams that want out of the ACC. The bottom line is that a team like FSU will be at a severe disadvantage competing with teams like UF with half the revenue that UF gets. I believe that with a 20 team league, the SEC will go to a 9 game schedule, and the annual revenue will exceed 90 million per team. The link below is an FSU guy who is very dialed in on all of this. He has put out a lot of videos that make sense as to why this will happen. If you are looking for something to do while we wait for football, check out his videos.

ACC.https://youtu.be/YRbQYzsRrwU

 

[BigBlue8]

 

[BigBlue8]

Dude says a lot without really saying anything. “There’s potential for several teams to leave the ACC and join other conferences”. Wow, big time inside info.

If you listen to his other videos concerning the ACC disolving, he goes into great detail on why it can and will happen. For example, he points out that ESPN is already making money on FSU and that won't be the case if FSU ends up in the B1G. Make no mistake, the B1G is very interested in high profile teams from the SEC footprint.

I for one find it to be exciting to be adding more high profile teams to the SEC.

 

[Grumpyolddawg]

I find coference expansion to be a very interesting topic. I believe that the SEC will add 4 teams from the ACC, and it will happen sooner than one might think. The B1G will also add teams from the ACC to get to a 20 team conference. The ACC teams can avoid the exit fee and GOR fee if the conference disolves. It will take 8 teams for that to happen. Currently their are 7 teams that want out of the ACC. The bottom line is that a team like FSU will be at a severe disadvantage competing with teams like UF with half the revenue that UF gets. I believe that with a 20 team league, the SEC will go to a 9 game schedule, and the annual revenue will exceed 90 million per team. The link below is an FSU guy who is very dialed in on all of this. He has put out a lot of videos that make sense as to why this will happen. If you are looking for something to do while we wait for football, check out his videos.

ACC.https://youtu.be/YRbQYzsRrwU

This was talked about earlier in the off season, there were 7 schools for dissolving the conference, but one was ND and they can't vote, according to the info then. I am pretty sure the voting eligible schools wanting out are FSU, CU,Miami for certain. I don't know who the other 3 would be, probably UNC, VT. No idea on the other, Louisville or NCST would be my best guess. I think Big10 would be all over GT, Virginia, Wake and Duke. Big in academics like the Big wants to claim.

 

[vhcat70]

Seems a ten games SEC schedule would be right in order that you play at least half the other members.

 

[serdi]

I think we should welcome charter members Georgia Tech and Tulane. Then expand in the eastern time zone with majority vote schools from ACC..

 

[timothy1234]

I think ultimately sec adds Clemson Florida state North Carolina and Virginia tech. I see big 10 add Oregon Washington Virginia and Miami. I think notre dame stays independent

 

[serdi]

I think ultimately sec adds Clemson Florida state North Carolina and Virginia tech. I see big 10 add Oregon Washington Virginia and Miami. I think notre dame stays independent

Would only change NC State for SEC and North Carolina at Chapel Hill for the Big Ten. They are too good for the SEC and will be willing to associate either the holier than though institutions.

 

[TweakyTweak]

Dissolve. Then just make a brand new conference, the Coastal Conference of the Atlantic. Get a new media deal with the same institutions. We threw out the British. They can throw out the old fat folks in Greensboro. What fun is it going to be to not be able to make fun of and beat up on those little brothers.

 

[hmt5000]

I was listening to an economic podcast that mentioned they thought college expansion would stop until '25. Money problems and sorting out the streaming services were the reasons given. Nobody is going to want to turn their back on guaranteed money for maybe money. Too many uncertainties right now with Ad revenue and subs.

 

[gamalielkid]

I find coference expansion to be a very interesting topic. I believe that the SEC will add 4 teams from the ACC, and it will happen sooner than one might think. The B1G will also add teams from the ACC to get to a 20 team conference. The ACC teams can avoid the exit fee and GOR fee if the conference disolves. It will take 8 teams for that to happen. Currently their are 7 teams that want out of the ACC. The bottom line is that a team like FSU will be at a severe disadvantage competing with teams like UF with half the revenue that UF gets. I believe that with a 20 team league, the SEC will go to a 9 game schedule, and the annual revenue will exceed 90 million per team. The link below is an FSU guy who is very dialed in on all of this. He has put out a lot of videos that make sense as to why this will happen. If you are looking for something to do while we wait for football, check out his videos.

ACC.https://youtu.be/YRbQYzsRrwU

I hope the SEC and Big 10 are smart enough to stop expanding! There is no real gain to expanding as some people keep wanting to see it happen. Why? It will definitely end the NCAA if this happens. It might be good for football - but will be not be good for other sports. Plus its time for everyone to think what is a conference for? Thirteen seasons and Texas A & M has never been to Lexington! Isn't a conference suppose to be played among its league members? Isn't it really better to keep some of the 75 year plus rivals? I want to see us play every team in the league at least every 4 years at home. Think about this - it will never be possible to keep rivals and see every team play in Lexington every 4 years! The best answer is for the Pac 12 to continue to be broken up and become part of the Big 12 and the ACC to re-structure itself and take some the big 12 teams and the true football schools from the ACC and have 16 team leagues. Those 64 teams are the ones who make the playoffs and will continue to make the playoffs. Instead of a top 40 - lets have a true coast to coast top 64!

The money is going to equal out the same proportion eventually. Some schools will always have more money to spend and take in than others. A team with a 40K stadium is never going to produce the same revenue as a 110K stadium. So forget about everyone ever being equal in income. Its never been that way and its never going to happen - equal income. That is not how capitalism works!

Go Big Blue!

 

[sefleming]

According to reports Colorado is in serious discussions
about joining the B12

Sources: Big 12 votes to welcome back Colorado

The Big 12's presidents and chancellors voted unanimously on a conference call Wednesday night to accept Colorado as a new member, sources told ESPN.

www.espn.com

 

[JHB4UK]

Colorado can't go by themselves, need a partner. Arizona, AZ St, or Utah?

 

[Grumpyolddawg]

Colorado can't go by themselves, need a partner. Arizona, AZ St, or Utah?

On Finebaum today it was announced they were BIG12 bound. Not sure when but I would guess as soon as possible. I think OU, Wash, Utah will be looking soon if they aren't now. Just a guess but I think Big10 would look to add them to help with some travel logistics.

Good, bad or no difference I believe we are headed for 2 super conferences with 25-30 teams each and a few current P5 teams get left behind.

 

[RDF922]

On Finebaum today it was announced they were BIG12 bound. Not sure when but I would guess as soon as possible. I think OU, Wash, Utah will be looking soon if they aren't now. Just a guess but I think Big10 would look to add them to help with some travel logistics.

Good, bad or no difference I believe we are headed for 2 super conferences with 25-30 teams each and a few current P5 teams get left behind.

Colorado to Big 12

Utah, Arizona, and Arizona State are looking as well

 

[sefleming]

I think i read after 2023 or 2024 season after current media rights expire so no exit fee due.

 

[EliteBlue]

I think we should welcome charter members Georgia Tech and Tulane. Then expand in the eastern time zone with majority vote schools from ACC.

I get where you’re coming from and maybe GT. Tulane just doesn’t fit anymore.

As for eastern Time zone teams. The Virginia market needs tapped into. VT is the team that the majority of the state pulls for as UVA is very northeastern elitist similar to Duke. Tech fits the SEC culturally and Blacksburg is a cool college town. Historically relevant football program w a solid basketball team. Tech also has a huge presence in the DC metro area to tap that market. (And oddly enough every city I’ve lived in w the Military including San Diego as a full blown VT bar. Can’t say the same for UVA)

After that we need the North Carolina market. UNC is likely the best choice but Duke will probably want to tag along. They love each other and have claimed they’ll each go where the other does…. If they want to do that then take NC State who fits better culturally anyways.

 

[UKWildcats1987]

I think we should welcome charter members Georgia Tech and Tulane. Then expand in the eastern time zone with majority vote schools from ACC..

Tulane? Lol. It's 2023 dude.

 

[Grumpyolddawg]

Tulane? Lol. It's 2023 dude.

I know it's only one year but Tulane finished in top 10 and beat the real USC in the Cotton Bowl. I don't think they get an invite to SEC, but they are better than Vandy.

 

[serdi]

Tulane? Lol. It's 2023 dude.

Did you see their Cotton Bowl victory vs Southern Cal in January? Watch them this year. Biggest mistake ever made by a university in the history of college athletics was them dropping out of the SEC. Their athletics department has never been stronger and it’s a great school. It would never happen because LSU would block DUDE

 

[TopCatCal]

I think ultimately sec adds Clemson Florida state North Carolina and Virginia tech. I see big 10 add Oregon Washington Virginia and Miami. I think notre dame stays independent

I think that you're spot on. The 4 ACC teams that you named I believe one day will all be in the SEC. It gets the SEC into 2 states North Carolina & Virginia that the SEC is not currently in, plus it keeps the top 2 football schools in the ACC Clemson & Florida State out of the Big10.

 

[sefleming]

The Big 12’s pursuit of Colorado as the school that “starts the domino effect” of expansion in that conference is on the verge of happening, sources told Sports Illustrated Wednesday.

 

[truebluewildcat_rivals34254]

Inevitable as "college" sports have become so big over time. Players getting paid and conferences consolidating into "super" conferences are just the first step in what I believe will be a pro/semi pro system.

There's nothing collegiate or amateur about the money schools have been making for long while and players are now getting a piece of.

It won't be overnight, but eventually I think about 60 programs will all but break away from the old collegiate system.

Then I think it's entirely possible the same thing happens with high school. The best AAU circuits and prep academies will essentially break off and become the third tier and development/feeder system.

Essentially moving towards a euro model where sports are not tied to school and there are multiple professional levels/leagues.

 

[bthaunert]

I hope the SEC and Big 10 are smart enough to stop expanding! There is no real gain to expanding as some people keep wanting to see it happen. Why? It will definitely end the NCAA if this happens. It might be good for football - but will be not be good for other sports. Plus its time for everyone to think what is a conference for? Thirteen seasons and Texas A & M has never been to Lexington! Isn't a conference suppose to be played among its league members? Isn't it really better to keep some of the 75 year plus rivals? I want to see us play every team in the league at least every 4 years at home. Think about this - it will never be possible to keep rivals and see every team play in Lexington every 4 years! The best answer is for the Pac 12 to continue to be broken up and become part of the Big 12 and the ACC to re-structure itself and take some the big 12 teams and the true football schools from the ACC and have 16 team leagues. Those 64 teams are the ones who make the playoffs and will continue to make the playoffs. Instead of a top 40 - lets have a true coast to coast top 64!

The money is going to equal out the same proportion eventually. Some schools will always have more money to spend and take in than others. A team with a 40K stadium is never going to produce the same revenue as a 110K stadium. So forget about everyone ever being equal in income. Its never been that way and its never going to happen - equal income. That is not how capitalism works!

Go Big Blue!

I always talk about the fact TAMU has yet to visit Lexington as one of the reasons I'm not a big fan of expansion. But money wins out. It's crazy to look back at the past too with scheduling. We didn't playa Bama for 25 years between 1947 - 1972.