Please name some other coaches who changed their system year to year. Boeheim? Izzo? Calipari? Still looking for one. What style did Pete Nance tell Collins he was able to play?
Second Quarter thread - IA @ NU
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Not sure how either of those makes it acceptable for us to be getting our *** cheeks blown out on a consistent basis. I think most people would be fine with competitive losses to good teams like Iowa. Losing consistently by 20-30 points at home isn’t excusable no matter the youth or strength of conference
I agree part of it is confidence. But we are just playing against tough competition. And Iowa, Final Four caliber, twice in 5 games. Just look at Miller Kopp, for example. We all think he is one of our best players, and he can’t consistently get it done against very good competition. Other teams’ best players get it done every game. We’re just not there yet. But, we can beat teams later in our schedule, so I hope Collins can keep the team confident.
I would agree with you if this was a veteran team coming off an Elite 8 appearance or something like that. They won 3 in a row (which is nice) but now they've lost 5 in a row. This is a team that didn't even have double digit wins last year (8-22) and finished 13th in the conference. I think losing five in row should mean some shake-ups. It doesn't have to be anything crazy, but maybe Young starts over Beran or you let Berry play the point, but I don't think a 3 game winning streak a month ago means that we should definitely stay the course on lineups or offense.
that’s really the crux of our issue, isnt it? Our best players aren’t actually very good. And that’s on Collins who evaluated and recruited these players
I do tend to agree with both of these suggestions. But it’s a delicate balance when you are on a losing streak.
Carmody was let go because he had 13 seasons to be successful and could not do it. To be a good coach you have to be a good leader, recruit talent, develop talent and deploy the talent effectively in games. Carmody fell far short in many of those areas. Collins is proving to be equally inadequate in many of those areas although not the same ones.
Not quite. More like, how about you change it up when what you are doing results in getting your brains beat in game after game?
nope. If a 4 star recruit ends up sucking on the court, that’s a failed recruiting effort. The results of recruiting are borne out on the court, you don’t stop evaluating your recruits after the rivals rankings come out.
Coaching 101, when you have the less talented team, do everything you can to shorten the game. In a compressed game, the less talented team has a greater chance to win. The longer the game goes, the more likely it is that the more talented team will exert its will on the less talented team. This is just basic logic.
Short-term vs. long-term thinking. I think you have to stick with the long-term plan and not mess it up in the short-term (knowing I’m sure they actually do make some in-game adjustments).
Playing a slower deliberate game now does not preclude you from playing an up tempo style in the future when conditions change. They are not mutually exclusive. There won’t be a long term for Collins if he doesn’t get his act together in the short term.
We literally don’t have the players to do what you are saying unless we start running a Princeton scheme. We have no post play, no point guard who can direct an offense, we can’t play pick and roll. The reason we play fast is because getting shots in transition is the only way we can get open shots.
Not true. We have two complimentary Post players that could play a high/low game in the paint. We have spot up shooters on the perimeter and we have a decent pg that can create.off the dribble.
The 3rd or 4th worst team in the Big Ten is better than two-thirds of the teams in America. I question your definition of "bad".
Lol, stick to message boards. There are ways to play basketball effectively that don’t involve 5 guys standing behind the three point line dribbling the ball and jacking up bad shots that they are incapable of making.
I did some comparison vs. Iowa season to-date:
Field Goals Attempted per Game
NU: 66
Iowa: 66
FG%:
NU: 45.3%
Iowa: 48.8%
3-Pointers attempted per game:
NU: 23
Iowa: 26.6
3Pt FG%:
NU: 38.9%
Iowa: 39.3%
Assists per Game:
NU: 17
Iowa: 21
Free Throws per Game:
NU: 20
Iowa: 23
Takeaways (knowing these are not just BigTen games):
1) Garza is a huge difference; opens up opportunities for more 3 point shots, assists, free throws and more easy shots.
2) We don’t shoot that well on relatively easier shots (2 pointers), but we’re not horrendous on 3’s (again knowing we shot really well pre-BigTen). Some of this is we don’t create easy ones; some is lack of talent.
High-level sports is largely about difference makers that make others better and cause mismatches; Iowa has one huge one, and we don’t.
Let’s get our recruiting to a point where we can get one - PBJ?
Lots of good implications in your post.
- good players who can force a defense to collapse can make their teammates better.
- a defense collapses when the ball enters the paint either through dribble penetration or via entry passes to post players.
- Northwestern has few players who can consistently break down a defense through dribble penetration.
- Northwestern has a couple of talented players capable of playing in the post.
- if you play a five out offense with players who are not adept at breaking down their defender off the dribble, the ball will remain on the perimeter and the likely outcome is a low percentage, contested outside shot.
- lastly, defense creates offense. The best thing a coach can do to help a struggling offensive team is to ramp up defensive pressure/intensity.
Agree on all. I did not know where to go to get defensive stats, but I’d certainly like to see those. And I agree we need to really focus on defense to make ourselves better.
We know Kopp struggles defensively, and I’m not too high on Buie’s D either, but the rest are good if not better than good, so that’s an area we can realistically improve.