Here we go... it's noon on Memorial Day... time to see if UK gets to play anymore baseball, or if we sit and home and watch the tournament.
Selection Monday
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Overall no.
1: Florida
2: Louisville
3: Miami
4: Texas A&M
5: Texas Tech
6: Miss. State
7: Clemson
8: LSU
1: Florida
2: Louisville
3: Miami
4: Texas A&M
5: Texas Tech
6: Miss. State
7: Clemson
8: LSU
NC State is not going to be happy with that draw... Coastal Carolina is going to be pissed that they aren't hosting.
The Bryant coach might be a good one to look out. They've made 3 tournament appearances all in the last 4 years.
Here is a snippet about their coach:
Steve Owens enters his sixth season at the helm of the Bulldog baseball program in 2016. In five seasons with the Black and Gold, Owens has posted a 179-103-1 record, helping the program become one of the best in the Northeast Region and one of the top mid-majors in the country. He has led the Bulldogs to two 40-win seasons, four-straight Northeast Conference Regular-Season titles and two NCAA tournaments.
Entering his 25th year as a college head coach, Owens holds a career record of 766-402-2 (.656), placing him 19th among active Division I coaches in career winning percentage. He also ranks 34th among active head coaches in career victories after earning his 700th with a 4-0 victory over North Carolina A&T on March 12, 2014. Even more impressive is the fact that Owens has produced 24-straight winning seasons as a skipper. Owens’ postseason accomplishments are just as extensive, as he boasts a 62-38 (.620) career record in the postseason.
Here is a snippet about their coach:
Steve Owens enters his sixth season at the helm of the Bulldog baseball program in 2016. In five seasons with the Black and Gold, Owens has posted a 179-103-1 record, helping the program become one of the best in the Northeast Region and one of the top mid-majors in the country. He has led the Bulldogs to two 40-win seasons, four-straight Northeast Conference Regular-Season titles and two NCAA tournaments.
Entering his 25th year as a college head coach, Owens holds a career record of 766-402-2 (.656), placing him 19th among active Division I coaches in career winning percentage. He also ranks 34th among active head coaches in career victories after earning his 700th with a 4-0 victory over North Carolina A&T on March 12, 2014. Even more impressive is the fact that Owens has produced 24-straight winning seasons as a skipper. Owens’ postseason accomplishments are just as extensive, as he boasts a 62-38 (.620) career record in the postseason.
Halfway done and no Kentucky... running out of spots.
Weird... I would have never guessed that Miss. State had never been a national seed.
Weird... I would have never guessed that Miss. State had never been a national seed.
I have to say that it is pretty awesome that Hairston's walkoff against South Carolina is the leadoff highlight on the selection show.
We aren't in the Louisville regional. Pretty much means we're probably out.
However, Washington got into the tournament. They have an RPI of 55 and have a similar record to UK.
We aren't in the Louisville regional. Pretty much means we're probably out.
However, Washington got into the tournament. They have an RPI of 55 and have a similar record to UK.
Ohh man, Utah against Ole Miss in game 1... that is going to be tough for the Rebels. Utah is no pushover despite that record.
No Kentucky... will Henderson survive?
Terrible year... we started the year as a top 25 team and we fail to make the NCAA tournament and finish 8th overall in the SEC. Just terrible. No excuse for this kind of year, and our coach should be held accountable. He likely won't, but he most definitely should.
We weren't in the last 3 out either.
Terrible year... we started the year as a top 25 team and we fail to make the NCAA tournament and finish 8th overall in the SEC. Just terrible. No excuse for this kind of year, and our coach should be held accountable. He likely won't, but he most definitely should.
We weren't in the last 3 out either.
Okay it's done now it's time for Barnhart to take action. 8 years and only 2 NCAA tournament appearances. If he truly wants to let every team compete for championships then Henderson must go.
Just a dreadful year for Henderson. Have to get rid of him now. No excuse for not making the tourney with that roster. Also, total garbage that UL gets the national 2 seed. Their resume is not worthy of that seed. The only basis for that ranking is the RPI, and if they're just going to use RPI, they may as well not have a committee.
They are talking up Kentucky and Alabama not being in and said that they should be in with a .500 SEC record. However, with UK having the roster that we did this year there is no excuse for us not being solidly into the tournament, especially since all we had to do was beat a couple of the SEC's worst team.
We were what....9th? in the country 6-8 weeks ago.when we played Louisville for the first time. And to go from that to not even really on the bubble in that period of time is just almost unbelieveable.
But yet pretty much par for the course in the Henderson era.
If this was a sport that generated any type of significant revenue, he would have been gone long before now. But since it isn't, so he will probably be around until an absolute bottoming out of the program occurs.
But yet pretty much par for the course in the Henderson era.
If this was a sport that generated any type of significant revenue, he would have been gone long before now. But since it isn't, so he will probably be around until an absolute bottoming out of the program occurs.
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The Auburn and Arkansas series certainly hurt this team, especially Arkansas which was wretched coming into the UK series and probably even worse in the weeks after.
But you just cant excuse away all the midweek losses to practically every D1 team in Kentucky. Louisville yes, but the rest are (to me) the reason why they are sitting home today.
Sure youre not pitching your best in these games, but on talent alone you should win the majority and we basically got swept....inexcusable.
Agreed. Take back the losses to NKU, Western, Auburn, Arky, and this is damn near a 40-win team and a lock for the tourney. Even blowing a 5-run lead over Ole Miss or a 5-1 lead over UL and that gives the team another quality win that may have made the difference. Watching this made me sick to my stomach.
Cb3...Come on you follow this as much as anybody...when you lose to every team in the state ,except Murray, and are totally embarrassed by wku plus lose series to the two worst teams in the conference you know your prospects aren't good...then you get in the sec tournament and have an ABSOLUTE MUST WIN game and you don't throw your ace pitcher, but instead pitch a guy who had never started an sec game...everybody that post here, except maybe for Gabe, knows and agrees that it is time for a major overhaul of the program and for a new stadium to be started THIS SUMMER, not in 2017...the $$$$$folks and the administration need to get off the pot and get this done...PERIOD
Either way, Henderson's poor coaching did this. Why did he not find a better spot for Brown and replace him with possibly Logue, Lewis, or Strecker? Why didn't he ever move someone like Shelby or McNeil further down in the lineup when they struggled? Why couldn't he ever find a replacement for McNeil? Why didn't he ever change the defensive lineup when Mahan struggled at short? Why did he insist on playing guys like Carson and Heady when they have shown that their bats are practically nonexistent?
I could probably go on, but I think in the grand scheme, there are few things that Henderson did right this year.
I could probably go on, but I think in the grand scheme, there are few things that Henderson did right this year.
You're preaching to the choir... I think this is one of the worst coaching jobs I have ever seen.
Look I HATE OTIS, but to be fair what you say is wrong...they had an outstanding record against a quality schedule and now play in what is probably the second best conference in cbb...they have beaten us 5 times in a row and are surely one of the major favorites to not only make the CWS, but to win the entire thing...be pissed at the UK administration and the $$$$ folks for now doing what it takes to win. IF YOU BUILD THIS THE#BBN WILL COME
Gaspard just resigned from Alabama. Wish Henderson would be a man and do the same thing.
Henderson is only slightly better than Gaspard and has coached one extra year.
Henderson is only slightly better than Gaspard and has coached one extra year.
It is not that I don't want a change, I just don't believe that Barnhart will pull the trigger. The way Chris Burke talked about UK and Alabama not being selected leads me to believe that he is in line to grab one of the SEC openings next year. Anyway, UK had too many holes in their lineup to make a viable run to Omaha this past season. I prefer to change the batting coach, Eckstein, who allowed Shelby, McNeill and Becker to wallow in 2nd half slumps without changing their approach to batting. I have never seen more curve balls out of the batter;s box keep fooling Shelby and McNeill throughout the secpnd half of the year and not trying to make an adjustment.
By the way, did anyone else see near the end of the selection show they messed up the graphic for host sites? They had Kentucky and Tennessee logos on the map instead of Louisville and Vanderbilt. Kind of funny.
Lol Gabe, no one asked for a viable run to Omaha. We asked for well played and consistent baseball. Asked to live up to our top 25 billing. Asked to make the ncaa tournament. We got none of those things.
Henderson has been here for 13 years. I don't think we've ever finished with a team Era in the top 5 in the league in the 13 years he's been here. Isn't he supposed to be "elite"? We've had excellent hitting in the past, now that we struggle at the plate, as well as on the mound, we suddenly want to blame the hitting? When does the pitching/head coach get some of the blame?
You're probably right that Barnhart doesn't make a move, but let's not put lipstick on this pig.
Henderson has been here for 13 years. I don't think we've ever finished with a team Era in the top 5 in the league in the 13 years he's been here. Isn't he supposed to be "elite"? We've had excellent hitting in the past, now that we struggle at the plate, as well as on the mound, we suddenly want to blame the hitting? When does the pitching/head coach get some of the blame?
You're probably right that Barnhart doesn't make a move, but let's not put lipstick on this pig.
Now that it is over, remember a couple of weeks ago I told you about sitting and talking to one of the players family members and I told you I would tell you it was after this season was over , well ît was a "very close" member of the Strecker family...individual told us GH was the worst HC he had ever seen SS play for.
This is not the first player or former player who has said that very thing. I've also heard from former players that Henderson is the worst coach for alumni. He never reaches out to them and it's like when they leave campus, he forgets all about them.
Slugger, I think there are a lot that feel that way. I can't say for sure, but it seems like not a lot of people leave UK baseball happy with the experience. Coming from the family member of a guy who played often says a lot to me.
Don't know how many of you follow Zack Brown on Twitter, but his tweets today show he can't get out of Lexington fast enough. Whole weekend staff gone next year and Shelby will go pro. Poor Evan White.
8yrs HC...6 non ncaa trips. What are the excuses for the other 5 seasons? No, it is time for a complete overhaul including STOP TALKING ABOUT THE STADIUM AND BUILD THE DAMN THING.
Brown and Shelby could return and have good years but it's not worth it for them. Both will likely be drafted in pretty low rounds based off potential. Shelby helped himself some this year by showing he can play a few infield positions and could probably move to the outfield as well.
Another year that should have included UK in the Big dance. Gaspard is gone at Alabama, Augie Garrito is gone down at Texas. Time for Mitch to clear out the garbage and bring in a fresh face.
Chris Burke would be a Great get as a HC, also several oithers at Mid-major programs. This Hendo thing just didn't work out, he was here for 13 years, 5 as Pitching coach, and 8 as HC, he was given more than enough time, and followed a very successful and popular HC in one John Cohen...... Pull the trigger Mitch....PLEASE !
Chris Burke would be a Great get as a HC, also several oithers at Mid-major programs. This Hendo thing just didn't work out, he was here for 13 years, 5 as Pitching coach, and 8 as HC, he was given more than enough time, and followed a very successful and popular HC in one John Cohen...... Pull the trigger Mitch....PLEASE !
I don't get it... convince me Burke would be a good hire. I know his credentials as a player but has the guy even coached baseball at a level higher than high school?
Yeah let's replace Henderson with a guy who has no coaching experience whatsoever. Are you all really being serious? I like Chris Burke but he is not ready to coach in the SEC.
Will go ahead and post this here instead of starting a new thread. My story on whether UK should consider making a change after missing the tournament again.
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What i said is not wrong, you just happen to disagree with it. Here is my reasoning:
-They didn't win their league title or tourney title (unlike Miss State, A&M, Miami, Clemson, and Texas Tech which made up 5 of the other 7 national seeds). The 6th would be Florida and they have a better resume and RPI than UL. The only reason that UL could justifiably be placed at #2 would be RPI.
The lost nearly every road series against good teams (Ole Miss, FSU, Miami, BC). Their only good road series win was UNC and they didn't make the tourney.
There's no doubt that UL has good talent and had a really good year, but they did not deserve the 2 seed. Giving them that seed places them on the opposite side of the bracket away from Florida, A&M, LSU.
We didn't even make the tournament and you want to talk smack about Louisville? Come on man...
These concepts are not mutually exclusive. I've made my feelings on UK quite clear. I happened to comment that UL's seeing was garbage. Someone challenged my thinking and I explained it. It's a message board, we talk about UK and our rivals. Deal with it.
Deal with it? Lol I bet you felt real tough after typing that. Someone challenged your thinking because your thinking is incompetent. Deal with it.
You know this for a fact ? Henderson had no HC experience, he got hired. If you have watched or listened to any Sec games, which I doubt, you would learn that he is knowledgble in all facets of the game, he is very personable, unlike Hendo. He played for Rod Delmonico, an outstanding coach at UT. He was Sec player of the year in 2001, a 3 time AA, and played for 6 or 7 years in the Big leagues. He would of course have to hire a staff, but I am sure he could do fine at that. Also, being an Sec color analyst he has been around the Floridas, LSU's, A&M's to see how the Big Boys do things. He may or may not be interested, but there are others who could fill the bill, as I have posted several times in the past few weeks.