Shaschboy brought up a great point...

[Coach34]

One way of judging if teams are well-coached, is looking at their staffs and what they go on to after. I even hear this from Dawgbreeze and Meo about how Williams has never been hired since he resigned...

Richard Williams - 11 years

John Brady- went on to LSU and a couple of SEC Titles, along with a Sweet 16 and a Final Four
Duane Reboul- Birmingham Southern
Rick Stansbury- current State coach and master of beating weak teams
Robert Kirby- still in same role under Stansbury (whatever that is)

Rick Stansbury -12th season

Stan Jones- helped us to our most successful season then left for Fla State
Phil Cunningham
Robert Kirby
Marcus Grant

Why is it that nobody wants Stansbury's assistants if we are so well-coached and successful? 1 coach moving on to a better place in 12 years?

 

[jackstefano]

asdf

 

[zerocooldog]

because I wouldn't consider going to FSU as an assistant coach as "moving on to a better place".

 

[sardis]

was when he had an exNBA guy sitting next to him, he may just needs better assistants.

 

[captaindawg]

on this board but Stan Jones was a great assistant coach. We had some great out of bounds plays when he was here that year. I also remember the players talking about him and how much he helped.

 

[smootness]

Dude, you're right. Richard Williams' record is better in this area. Someone from his staff ended up as Mississippi State's winningest coach of all time and made it the 3rd best program in the SEC over the course of a decade. Stansbury hasn't had anybody from his staff do that, so score one for Williams on great success from his assistants.

 

[Coach34]

Dude, you're right. Richard Williams' record is better in this area. Someone from his staff ended up as Mississippi State's winningest coach of all time and made it the 3rd best program in the SEC over the course of a decade. Stansbury hasn't had anybody from his staff do that, so score one for Williams on great success from his assistants.

Last 10 years, we are 4th in conference wins...
LSU has 3 SEC titles to our 1 the last 10 years

How are we 3rd?

 

[smootness]

I said "a decade," not "the last 10 years."

 

[shaschboy]

the past couple of years when he was with UAB. They always ask him how he did it at MSU. He explains, as I said before, that he was hired by Charley Scott and was just asked "to win an SEC game every once in a while". He said that he had 0 talent and had to start recruiting younger players i.e. 9th and 10th graders, that looked like that they may have future potential. He said he couldn't go after the top talent in the beginning because Alabama and other programs were getting everybody from Miss. He said that he was all about fundamentals, which is what he learned as an assistant. Tough defense and ball control. Something that Stansbury knows nothing about anymore.

He came in with nothing. Built it up with sound fundamentals and so-so players and from what I've heard, got the big time shaft from an assistant, who wanted to be head coach!

I'm sure there are lots of rumors to the effect of how it went down in the end, but all I know, is that this guy could coach.

Here's a question for you Stansbury supporters-What could Richard do with the talent that Stansbury has now?

 

[TBonewannabe]

I doubt an assistant had anything to do with MSU having a pom pom squad. I think Williams had strike 3 or so, not much you can do about it. If he was such a great coach someone would have picked him up. He had a great team for a couple of years, some people act like he was Adolph Rupp.</p>

 

[MrHooch]

the past couple of years when he was with UAB. They always ask him how he did it at MSU. He explains, as I said before, that he was hired by Charley Scott and was just asked "to win an SEC game every once in a while". He said that he had 0 talent and had to start recruiting younger players i.e. 9th and 10th graders, that looked like that they may have future potential. He said he couldn't go after the top talent in the beginning because Alabama and other programs were getting everybody from Miss. He said that he was all about fundamentals, which is what he learned as an assistant. <span style="font-weight: bold;">Tough defense and ball control. Something that Stansbury knows nothing about anymore.</span>

He came in with nothing. Built it up with sound fundamentals and so-so players and from what I've heard, got the big time shaft from an assistant, who wanted to be head coach!

I'm sure there are lots of rumors to the effect of how it went down in the end, but all I know, is that this guy could coach.

Here's a question for you Stansbury supporters-What could Richard do with the talent that Stansbury has now?

that right there. You're trying to tell me that Stansbury isn't a defensive-minded coach? Maybe one of our stat-rats can pull some numbers to either support this or debunk it, but I think you're either wrong or just fishing...

 

[shaschboy]

that right there. You're trying to tell me that Stansbury isn't a defensive-minded coach? Maybe one of our stat-rats can pull some numbers to either support this or debunk it, but I think you're either wrong or just fishing...
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Yes, Stan's has had some great defenses in the past. But what has happened now? We've got an All-American in Varnardo and Rick can't for the life of me try to play big ball. W.V. got equal points(20) in the paint against what will be the NCAA all time shot blocker. Varnardo can't cover the entire floor and it's up to the coach to make adjustments. We've got too many guys that should be playing low post but don't because they want to show that they can drain the long ball. This all seem to start with Jamoney and has carried over in the last 2 seasons

And don't get me started on the free throw shooting. Those guys should run until they see last weeks lunch for that perfomance Monday.
Again, it's the coach. Get the stat's if you want, but we should easily be undefeated at this point. We will see what happens Saturday and that will tell us a lot.

Here's another question for Stansbury supporters-Where would Stansbury be if he started out in a similar situation to Williams?