Shooters

[jwildcattrester]

I posted this before the season, but can't find my original account or posts on this new site.

Other than Kam, how in the world did Coach Pope not add proven shooters to this roster? Given the offense he runs, the goal of putting up 30+ threes, the analytics that value the 3, the fact that 3s are even more important in college given average scores, and the fact that it's an easier shot from a shorter distance.

It's mind boggling to me. Did he expect Noah to be a 20+ min per game player? What am I missing?

 

[loublue22_rivals308424]

he didnt get the guys he wanted

 

[jwildcattrester]

I'm aware of Lamar Wilkerson, who else was a shooter that he missed out on?

 

[RunninRichie]

Missed on players. The current roster is a bust, with his offense. He needs to scrap it. Work with what you got.

 

[gbl97]

I posted this before the season, but can't find my original account or posts on this new site.

Other than Kam, how in the world did Coach Pope not add proven shooters to this roster? Given the offense he runs, the goal of putting up 30+ threes, the analytics that value the 3, the fact that 3s are even more important in college given average scores, and the fact that it's an easier shot from a shorter distance.

It's mind boggling to me. Did he expect Noah to be a 20+ min per game player? What am I missing?

I asked the same thing all summer. And how does no shooter want to come play in this offense and make top dollar shooting threes? The only hope has been a couple guys making major strides over the summer -- which we've yet to see.

 

[Artlaibesghost]

We have plenty of shooters, what we don't have right now is a great point guard.EVERY great team I have seen so far this season has one. We need a guy who can penetrate and finish if need be. Aberdeen is serviceable but would be so much better as a 2. Our outside shooters are struggling because they aren't getting open because good teams are not worried about us attacking the rim and dishing it out. We are also missing a rim protector.
I watched Houston and TN tonight and both of them had multiple blocks when the other took it inside. Until we can do that we will always be susceptible to straight line drives. Our 2 and 3 have to help out inside leaving open shooters when they do. If we don't get Lowe and JQ playing we will struggle mightly.

 

[Crazy4Blue]

Right now I would settle on some guys that can guard the three. Tired of seeing wide open threes and guys flying past the shooter.

 

[blackcat714]

We have plenty of shooters not so many makers i say Popes about to cut Mo’s 3‘s down he has been taking way too many

 

[TFCat11]

he didnt get the guys he wanted

This /end thread/

 

[BlueBlood96Cat]

he didnt get the guys he wanted

That simple

 

[BlueBlood96Cat]

I'm aware of Lamar Wilkerson, who else was a shooter that he missed out on?

The thing is not just shooters he missed on. Like Wilkerson. It’s playmakers that allow those shooters to have easier shots. He missed on basically everybody. Now that time has passed I think he even missed on Oweh. He was forced to come back to college and nobody in the country was gonna give him half of what we gave him. That’s just my opinion I have no clue what Oweh received.

So many options that’s we could add and subtract. Would like to of seen Pierre jr and Wilkerson on this team. If not them two then Caleb Wilson. Wilson is more of a monster than I gave him credit for and I was super high on him to begin with. Ament… I’m sure there’s plenty others if I think back. Does this team no good to talk about that but still the problems are glaring.

 

[Son_Of_Saul]

I'm aware of Lamar Wilkerson, who else was a shooter that he missed out on?

Wilkerson alone would change everything about this Kentucky team. He's Kobe Brea-level good from three.

Pope also went after Dent (40% from three last year), Demary Jr. (37% from three last year), and Mullins (one of the best shooters in high school).

Wilkerson was the big miss obviously.

 

[BlueBlood96Cat]

Wilkerson alone would change everything about this Kentucky team. He's Kobe Brea-level good from three.

Pope also went after Dent (40% from three last year), Demary Jr. (37% from three last year), and Mullins (one of the best shooters in high school).

Wilkerson was the big miss obviously.

Yea shouldn’t have took him to the derby but instead got a commitment from him with a briefcase full of cash. He likely whoops our *** at Indiana.

Im sorry guys I think we are a bad team this year until they prove me wrong. Beating butt **** Egypt by 60 does nothing for me.

What’s makes it worse is I just knew we were gonna be the ones kicking *** this season so I got some tickets to the Gonzaga game and they just beat bama. This is also my way of being negative knowing they will prove me wrong! Go Cats lol

 

[Wildcat_in_DC]

I think Pope largely got the guys he wanted. Fans wanted shooting but I think Pope thought he could get away with just ok shooting but really good defense and rebounding and thats the team he assembled. He likely knew he wouldn't be able to beat teams like Alabama, Tenn, Florida with just shooting.

Fans wanted Dent who is currently averaging 11ppg shooting 35% from the floor and 9% from three.
Fans wanted Demary who is doing well at UConn who is averaging 12.5ppg shooting 55% from the floor but 20% from three.
Another fan favorite was Obi Agbim who is averaging just 9.8ppg shooting 38% from the floor and 32% from three.
Not a lot of shooting with these "must gets".

If Lowe was 100% I doubt his numbers would be any worse than these.

 

[UKJenning]

Pope has some major weaknesses.
1. Recruiting
2. Teaching defense
3. Teaching physicality
4. Having his team pumped and ready at the start of big games

Theres many more that others can list I’m sure.

I think he’s going to be a bust at UK. Hopefully he proves me wrong!

 

[seccats04]

Pope has some major weaknesses.
1. Recruiting
2. Teaching defense
3. Teaching physicality
4. Having his team pumped and ready at the start of big games

Theres many more that others can list I’m sure.

I think he’s going to be a bust at UK. Hopefully he proves me wrong!

We have seen some good things with Pope, no doubt. But we have equally seen as many if not more, chinks in his armor. I was skeptical at the beginning and remain skeptical now.

 

[JPFisher]

We're a better shooting team than we've shown. Once the guys get settled and figure out how to get their best shots within the scope of the offense, we'll start lighting it up more.

 

[Monday Nitro]

We're a better shooting team than we've shown. Once the guys get settled and figure out how to get their best shots within the scope of the offense, we'll start lighting it up more.

Agree and it all starts with a PG so guys are in the right spots. Absolutely loony that people have already thrown in the towel in NOVEMBER when our starting PG is out. Embarassing softness from those freaking out already. Unbelievable, honestly.

Alot of it is shameless agendas, though. (Pretend posters that aren't UK fans, negative people all day everyday, and people that didn't want Pope that are claiming victory and telling everyone how smart they are.)

 

[Wildcat_in_DC]

Pope has some major weaknesses.
1. Recruiting
2. Teaching defense
3. Teaching physicality
4. Having his team pumped and ready at the start of big games

Theres many more that others can list I’m sure.

I think he’s going to be a bust at UK. Hopefully he proves me wrong!

I'll disagree with #4.

UK has generally started (big) games well.

Against Purdue, at the 13:09 mark in the first UK led 15-10
Against Georgetown, at the 13:30 mark in the first UK led 16-13
Against UL, at the 14:19 mark in the first UK led 17-12
Against MSU, at the 13:36 mark in the first UK led 17-14

UK has started out well in the first third of the first half in games. Its the 2nd third that has been problematic. I think its a combination of:

• Wholesale substitutions and different lineups which result in poor shot selection and missed assignments
• Other teams adjust and take away the initial action and Pope doesn't call a timeout and counter adjust. He waits until halftime if at all

 

[Catlogic1552]

Lendenberg (Michigan) huge miss. Physical and 39.3 3 point %.

 

[jwildcattrester]

Wilkerson alone would change everything about this Kentucky team. He's Kobe Brea-level good from three.

Pope also went after Dent (40% from three last year), Demary Jr. (37% from three last year), and Mullins (one of the best shooters in high school).

Wilkerson was the big miss obviously.

Thank you SofS! Exactly what I was looking for

 

[jwildcattrester]

Lendenberg (Michigan) huge miss. Physical and 39.3 3 point %.

Thank you!

 

[rivercatinfl]

We're a better shooting team than we've shown. Once the guys get settled and figure out how to get their best shots within the scope of the offense, we'll start lighting it up more.

We have advantages with some of the bigs too imo. Moreno, Jelly and even Garrison need to be point getters if they clamp down outside. You are 7'. Get some buckets

 

[Phil_The_Music2]

I'll disagree with #4.

UK has generally started (big) games well.

Against Purdue, at the 13:09 mark in the first UK led 15-10
Against Georgetown, at the 13:30 mark in the first UK led 16-13
Against UL, at the 14:19 mark in the first UK led 17-12
Against MSU, at the 13:36 mark in the first UK led 17-14

UK has started out well in the first third of the first half in games. Its the 2nd third that has been problematic. I think its a combination of:

• Wholesale substitutions and different lineups which result in poor shot selection and missed assignments
• Other teams adjust and take away the initial action and Pope doesn't call a timeout and counter adjust. He waits until halftime if at all

We need to stop the wholesale substitutions. That's what is killing us.

 

[FLBBNFAN]

I'll disagree with #4.

UK has generally started (big) games well.

Against Purdue, at the 13:09 mark in the first UK led 15-10
Against Georgetown, at the 13:30 mark in the first UK led 16-13
Against UL, at the 14:19 mark in the first UK led 17-12
Against MSU, at the 13:36 mark in the first UK led 17-14

UK has started out well in the first third of the first half in games. Its the 2nd third that has been problematic. I think its a combination of:

• Wholesale substitutions and different lineups which result in poor shot selection and missed assignments
• Other teams adjust and take away the initial action and Pope doesn't call a timeout and counter adjust. He waits until halftime if at all

I dont get the wholesale substitutions when we are only 4 minutes into the game. Against both Louisville and MSU the games were tight or even us leading and we then subbed and lost all the momentum.

Also Pope took way to long to call a timeout to stop the bleeding.