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ClownBaby

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At the Wisconsin State Championships today they are using instant replay for the first time to review all scoring plays and turnovers. Hopefully the IHSA will follow suit and start this in 2020.

The WIAA paid $6,000 for this project for seven total games.
 
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ClownBaby said:
At the Wisconsin State Championships today they are using instant replay for the first time to review all scoring plays and turnovers. Hopefully the IHSA will follow suit and start this in 2020.

The WIAA paid $6,000 for this project for seven total games.
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I like the idea but if NFHS is involved it could take til Christmas to finish the 8 games.
 
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I’d rather adults put HS sport outcomes in perspective and correctly value the lessons learned in the journey. But who am I kidding?Pylon cams it is
 
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JVCoach1 said:
I don't think the NCAA or NFL should use replay.
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I actually kinda agree with this but the problem is when a game is covered with 20 tv cameras you are almost forced to otherwise people say the games are rigged.
 
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ClownBaby said:
I actually kinda agree with this but the problem is when a game is covered with 20 tv cameras you are almost forced to otherwise people say the games are rigged.
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And that the refs have other interests $$$$
 
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JVCoach1 said:
Each NFL game averages around 154 plays. Game officials are typically accurate on 97% of calls.
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So the best of the best are typically accurate on 95-97% of calls. You don't think there should be a support system for that final percentage? Especially when we see week in and week out game changing calls? I strongly disagree. Replay helps improve accuracy. I would venture to guess that the accuracy number drops significantly from the NFL to high school football, despite referees best efforts. If the IHSA could get an efficient system in place (HAH!), then I see no issue with replay.
 
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PowerI66 said:
So the best of the best are typically accurate on 95-97% of calls. You don't think there should be a support system for that final percentage? Especially when we see week in and week out game changing calls? I strongly disagree. Replay helps improve accuracy. I would venture to guess that the accuracy number drops significantly from the NFL to high school football, despite referees best efforts. If the IHSA could get an efficient system in place (HAH!), then I see no issue with replay.
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I don't. It's just a game. Slows down play.
 
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I would venture to guess that the accuracy number drops significantly from the NFL to high school football, despite referees best efforts.

I think you'd be surprised if you could even get data on that. Guessing highschool officials would be will into the 90%+. There just aren't that many plays that call for replay. Again, just my opinion. I know i'm in the overwhelming minority here. I don't gamble on sports because I value my money. So I really could care less if the officials botch a call and the Bears end up 6-10 instead of 7-9.
 
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brucealmighy said:
No. I do not like the move if it is not used for the entire playoffs. There was a game last year in LaGrange Park that could have used it even with the extra official on the sideline.
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Not LaGrange Park. There’s never been an issue in LGP.
 
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McCaravan said:
Absolutely not. It’s just high school football.
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So you’re saying when the ground causes a fumble on the final drive inside the 10 and MC loses 24-20 your not going to complain about how bad the refs are right?
 
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JVCoach1 said:
How often has that happened in a state final?
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MS/ HC in 2008 had fumble where the kid from HC was down and MS picked it up and ran it in for a TD to put the game away. MS was the better team but the point is a blown fumble call had an impact on the game.

That stands out but I’m sure there are others.
 
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How often has that happened in a state final?
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Last time I can remember was in 2012, Aledo vs. Althoff. Althoff fumbled and Aledo recovered and returned it for the a TD. Althoff runner was down from the replays I saw.



Start at the 1:15:00 mark. You decide.
 
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McCaravan said:
Absolutely not. It’s just high school football.
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While I hate d\replays, we got burned in '95 vs MS. Their last second field goal was wide, but one of our players got blocked into the MS kicker by another MS player. They got 15 yards and another attempt. Guess what happened.

I still don't want replays, however.

Back in the early 60s when video replays were used for highlights, Jack Brickhouse said that many people thought video would make the umpires look bad. "Actually," he said, "it shows how good they are." That, of course, was before Fox Sports had 15 different camera angles.
 
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CaravanMan said:
Last time I can remember was in 2012, Aledo vs. Althoff. Althoff fumbled and Aledo recovered and returned it for the a TD. Althoff runner was down from the replays I saw.



Start at the 1:15:00 mark. You decide.
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that really doesn’t show much of anything that could be overturned.
 
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MC63 said:
While I hate d\replays, we got burned in '95 vs MS. Their last second field goal was wide, but one of our players got blocked into the MS kicker by another MS player. They got 15 yards and another attempt. Guess what happened.

I still don't want replays, however.

Back in the early 60s when video replays were used for highlights, Jack Brickhouse said that many people thought video would make the umpires look bad. "Actually," he said, "it shows how good they are." That, of course, was before Fox Sports had 15 different camera angles.
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We won the 91 game vs Wheaton on a phantom pass interference flag so the football Gods evened things out. 95 hurt though being Dowling’s year.
 
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JVCoach1 said:
I don't. It's just a game. Slows down play.
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Except for a total mismatch blowout... and we are assuming this is a fairly close state championship game..... when was the last time you were at a football game thinking damn this is taking forever I wish it were over so I can get outta here? And if that is happening to you please just stay home to start with.... “slows down the game” o_O
 
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CaravanMan said:
Last time I can remember was in 2012, Aledo vs. Althoff. Althoff fumbled and Aledo recovered and returned it for the a TD. Althoff runner was down from the replays I saw.

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I played it frame by frame and Refs got it right. The ball came out before he was down. At a very minimum there is no conclusive evidence for a reversal.
 
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Kevin JCHS 81 said:
I played it frame by frame and Refs got it right. The ball came out before he was down. At a very minimum there is no conclusive evidence for a reversal.
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Did you watch after the commercial break when they show the reverse angle where he is laying on the ground and they pull the ball out? Assume your right what about the fumble what about the recovery where the defender is on the ground for the recovery? That is reviewable also so it’s first down on the 3 yard line instead of a TD.
 
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Man, the game is long enough with the constant loop of sponsorship commercials and I already get the stink eye from the wife when paying more attention to the games than her family. I have to vote no.
 
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ClownBaby said:
Did you watch after the commercial break when they show the reverse angle where he is laying on the ground and they pull the ball out? Assume your right what about the fumble what about the recovery where the defender is on the ground for the recovery? That is reviewable also so it’s first down on the 3 yard line instead of a TD.
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I was only watching for whether or not it was a fumble (or) could it be overturned as fumble. I watched all the angles I think but I'm going to watch it again looking for if the defender was down.
 
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Assume your right what about the fumble what about the recovery where the defender is on the ground for the recovery? That is reviewable also so it’s first down on the 3 yard line instead of a TD.
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Yes, I would have to say you are correct the defender was down when he made the recovery. That part could probably be reversed (no TD).
 
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Kevin JCHS 81 said:
Yes, I would have to say you are correct the defender was down when he made the recovery. That part could probably be reversed (no TD).
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I hate how replay slows games down but I hate lame threads blaming the refs for a teams loss even more so I’m in favor of it.
 
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If they could put in the right system I would not mind it. After all contrary to popular belief we want to get the call right.
Funny someone in this thread mentioned the accuracy of the NFL refs, yet people bash the high school refs for missing one play.
 
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ClownBaby said:
MS/ HC in 2008 had fumble where the kid from HC was down and MS picked it up and ran it in for a TD to put the game away. MS was the better team but the point is a blown fumble call had an impact on the game.

That stands out but I’m sure there are others.
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If Pass Interference were to be reviewable, we could go back to the 1991 state championship and the rogue penalty on the WWS DB (Christian Wing) on 4th and 16 vs. Mount Carmel. The receiver wasnt touched and the game should have ended with a WWS win. I'm not bitter or anything. haha.
 
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If they have the means to do it, then they should do it. I have seen so many games in the past have questionable calls that could have been easily cleared up with replay. Why play a guessing game when video review can make it clear as day?

It's a long season and these kids already put it all out on the line to get the big game. I'm in favor of something that can determine the CORRECT outcome.
 
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