Should the "United States of America" continue as a country?

[kb22stang]

I agree with most of those thing but you do realize most of those same things apply to Joe too don't you?

I don't believe Joe is a saint, but I do believe he's 100% better than Trump. I equate Joe to Bush in many ways, he seems to be a pretty good person, his beliefs are definitely not radical, and I don't think they embarass the country on a national stage.

I'm a moderate, not affiliated with either party. But Trump is a new level, I truly believe he is dangerous. He's the first president I've ever seen that supports violence and obstruction. There are a lot of good hearted conservatives, Trump is not one of those. He views the country as just another way to build up his ego.

 

[Ryan Lemonds Hair]

I see it like this. I can choose to believe in God, attend church, associate with like minded people and enjoy my life. You can choose to think it's a fairytale, associate with like minded people and enjoy your life. The big difference is when we die. If you are right and there is no God, no afterlife and we just cease to exist then we both have enjoyed our lives and all is over. However if I happen to be right, despite not being as intelligent as you and the rest of the "developed world", then you may have a pretty miserable afterlife. So the way I see it I am good either way and as for you well good luck. Have a good day.

In general you are correct. However the level division due to income gap, race, political affiliation and geography is worse than it's ever been.

No, we will never be completely united, but there doesn't need to this much. But when people only look for news to confirm their own views then we end up where we are. Critical thinking has been lost in this country the best evidence of which is a segment of the population refusing the part with the myth of god (like most of the developed world has). I mean you'll believe in those stories, whether they be muslim, christian, jewish ..etc. then you are not applying critical thinking and instead are relying on a age old wives tale told in multiple forms, all believing they are the only true wives tale, all over the world. It's a ridiculous concept on it's face which is why they practice indoctrination as such a young age. Religions know if you let people have choice and free thought, without the brainwashing from birth, people will see straight through the fairytale.

 

[cat_chaser]

Facebook is a haven for conspiracy theory ******** and extremist propaganda/recruiting. It’s a cancer on the world.

Ok. Now do twitter.

 

[Ryan Lemonds Hair]

If you believe a man who has been accused by 8 women of sexual assault, who has lied, cheated and misled Americans all for his and his families financial gain, a man who is okay with letting a parent convert an 8 year old child into the opposite sex when an 8 year old can't even make up their mind if they want a burger or fries from McDonalds is a good person and not radical then I don't know what to tell you. It is probably best I just go ahead and use my ignore feature because apparently we have very little in common other than rooting for the Cats and our conversations will go nowhere.

I don't believe Joe is a saint, but I do believe he's 100% better than Trump. I equate Joe to Bush in many ways, he seems to be a pretty good person, his beliefs are definitely not radical, and I don't think they embarass the country on a national stage.

I'm a moderate, not affiliated with either party. But Trump is a new level, I truly believe he is dangerous. He's the first president I've ever seen that supports violence and obstruction. There are a lot of good hearted conservatives, Trump is not one of those. He views the country as just another way to build up his ego.

 

[ryanbruner]

Oh stop being a drama queen. Statements like that is why people hate liberals. Abortion has killed millions and you are okay with that.

haha yea @dgtatu01 quit being a drama queen man....
what the dude with the pitch fork posting about deep state conspiracies said!

 

[ryanbruner]

If you believe a man who has been accused by 8 women of sexual assault, who has lied, cheated and misled Americans all for his and his families financial gain, a man who is okay with letting a parent convert an 8 year old child into the opposite sex when an 8 year old can't even make up their mind if they want a burger or fries from McDonalds is a good person and not radical then I don't know what to tell you. It is probably best I just go ahead and use my ignore feature because apparently we have very little in common other than rooting for the Cats and our conversations will go nowhere.

Yea man! "My sexual predator is better than yours!" Remember that.

 

[jameslee32]

If you believe a man who has been accused by 8 women of sexual assault, who has lied, cheated and misled Americans all for his and his families financial gain, a man who is okay with letting a parent convert an 8 year old child into the opposite sex when an 8 year old can't even make up their mind if they want a burger or fries from McDonalds is a good person and not radical then I don't know what to tell you. It is probably best I just go ahead and use my ignore feature because apparently we have very little in common other than rooting for the Cats and our conversations will go nowhere.

lol

 

[mrhotdice]

We need great leaders in general. This country has lacked that for the better part of 2 decades. We are a clown show.

We’ve had plenty of leaders just no political ones. Civility went out the window when the press picked a side like they have for 12 years. People in Kentucky are what some reporter in NY or LA thinks. Educated or not, you are a redneck, hillbilly, and now a Trump supporter. What America needs is a prime minister that makes all factions of politics work together.
When you had an honest press democracy works but when you don’t it’s what we have now.

 

[BernieSadori]

Get rid of social media and party affiliation and we have a united country again.

 

[ryanbruner]

We’ve had plenty of leaders just no political ones. Civility went out the window when the press picked a side like they have for 12 years. People in Kentucky are what some reporter in NY or LA thinks. Educated or not, you are a redneck, hillbilly, and now a Trump supporter. What America needs is a prime minister that makes all factions of politics work together.
When you had an honest press democracy works but when you don’t it’s what we have now.

People who put there trust in any form of media are lost causes anyways. The problem is for 2 decades we've had leaders (political or not) who constantly lie and who have developed cult like followings that are slowly trying to destroy each other. Thats just where we are. For me I just enjoy watching people lie to themselves though.

 

[BMoore2]

When Republicans are in power, America is completely racist and terrible. When Democrats are in power, America is a socialist shell of its former self. It’s ridiculous.

 

[ryanbruner]

When Republicans are in power, America is completely racist and terrible. When Democrats are in power, America is a socialist shell of its former self. It’s ridiculous.

yep you hit the nail on the head and anyone who truly thinks like that is a full blown idiot

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

It's because there are about 40% of people with extreme beliefs that think everyone who doesn't believe what they believe is a demon possessed monster bent on destruction. That's just not true. We all want a good country to live in. It ought to provide people with opportunities to earn enough money to care for themselves and their family and also do some things they enjoy.

Voting for the other party is not insurrection. Let's quit acting like it is and cut each other some slack.

F that. You support baby killers, violent protesting and socialism. Take your "unity" and shove it up your ***.

 

[Col. Angus]

Get rid of Facebook AND Twitter. Get us as close to the 90s again as possible.

 

[ryanbruner]

F that. You support baby killers, violent protesting and socialism. Take your "unity" and shove it up your ***.

Haha

 

[BlueBallz_rivals30790]

I don't believe Joe is a saint, but I do believe he's 100% better than Trump. I equate Joe to Bush in many ways, he seems to be a pretty good person, his beliefs are definitely not radical, and I don't think they embarass the country on a national stage.

I'm a moderate, not affiliated with either party. But Trump is a new level, I truly believe he is dangerous. He's the first president I've ever seen that supports violence and obstruction. There are a lot of good hearted conservatives, Trump is not one of those. He views the country as just another way to build up his ego.

Trump was my 3-4th option out of the Republican candidates, however I"ll take him any day over Hillary. The democrats did a disservice to themselves kowtowing to the Clintons by putting her up there. Biden himself doesn't scare me as much as Kamala, she's as radical as they get. It wouldn't surprise me at all to see her take over mid term, Biden's mental capacity just doesn't seem to be there. The saving grace is that the Republicans held their seats in the Senate and I believe picked up a few in the house, which should keep everything in gridlock. Even with Biden winning, if I'm a democrat, I don't see this as a big win, they should have swept.

 

[BlueRaider22]

Trump was my 3-4th option out of the Republican candidates, however I"ll take him any day over Hillary. The democrats did a disservice to themselves kowtowing to the Clintons by putting her up there. Biden himself doesn't scare me as much as Kamala, she's as radical as they get. It wouldn't surprise me at all to see her take over mid term, Biden's mental capacity just doesn't seem to be there. The saving grace is that the Republicans held their seats in the Senate and I believe picked up a few in the house, which should keep everything in gridlock. Even with Biden winning, if I'm a democrat, I don't see this as a big win, they should have swept.

I think they'll prop up Joe for as long as they possibly can. It would be far easier for the Democratic party to manipulate a mentally ailing Joe than a fiery leftist attorney.

 

[ryanbruner]

I think they'll prop up Joe for as long as they possibly can. It would be far easier for the Democratic party to manipulate a mentally ailing Joe than a fiery leftist attorney.

Oh the horrors of going from a mentally unfit 74 year old to a mentally unfit 77 year old. How the times are changing.

 

[BlueBallz_rivals30790]

Oh the horrors of going from a mentally unfit 74 year old to a mentally unfit 77 year old. How the times are changing.

You missed the point, it's Kamala that scares me, way more than Pence does.

 

[ryanbruner]

You missed the point, it's Kamala that scares me, way more than Pence does.

We can agree to disagree lol
I'm not gonna stand behind either one of em
Its more of the same on different spectrums

 

[BlueRunner11]

I live in Ca. I hate Ca. Would move if I could. But I get a bit pissy when I see people say nuke the whole thing, hope it breaks off, eff em etc.

There are a ton of patriots out here fighting for the state, their rights, etc. Good people. Conservative people. Pro 2A people. People that love the country.

We’ve had thousands of recall petitions against Newsome ongoing. Lawsuits. Noncompliance of health orders. More rallies for Trump In LA, Sacramento etc and more patriotism on display than I’ve ever seen out here. And guess what?

The state went even bluer this election.

You guys have no idea the amount of corruption
up against out here. You’re getting just a taste of it right now with this national election fraud. When Kamala takes over, you’ll see just what SF politics is all about. Maybe she’ll even appoint her buddy Gavin as VP

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

Haha

Ah, so you disagree? How so?

 

[ryanbruner]

Ah, so you disagree? How so?

I just think its funny watching both of you groups of wonderful gullible fools point fingers is all. Both blindly supporting corrupt pervs. Always trying to elevate your own perv higher than the other.

"Oh you're gonna accuse my guy of being a womanizing corrupt pedophile? Well your guy is more of a pedophile.....oh yea and he KILLS BABIES"

 

[BigBlueGuru]

I think the whole idea of America is being destroyed by the Democrat and Republican party who are always in a constant pissing match. Does anyone remember when a Republican said anything good about Obama? Does anyone remember when any Democrat said anything good about Trump? Do away with the titles of Republican and Democrats and just let candidates run on their ideas, beliefs and principles.

The country is always going to be divided until we have a way to prove which political parties principles are best. Only way to do that is to create a Western US and Eastern US. All Democrats go to the Western US and live under Democrat rules and regulations and have a Democrat President, Senate and House. All Republicans go to the Eastern US and live under Republican rules and regulations and have a Republican President, Senate and House.

Wouldn't take long for the American people to see which country comes begging for financial help from the other. Within 20 to 30 years.

 

[Fresh Start]

Yes. Don’t be stupid.

I agree with most of those thing but you do realize most of those same things apply to Joe too don't you? To be honest we haven't had a candidate in the last 2 general elections with any integrity. Biden, Clinton and Trump are all ruthless in one way or another the only difference is Trump doesn't try to hide it like Biden and Clinton does.

If you think McCain, Romney, Bush, Kerry, Gore, or Obama are high integrity people I've got a bridge to sell you. Our politicians are corrupt, period, end of story. If they are new and are not corrupt just give it a term or 2.

 

[Fresh Start]

I just think its funny watching both of you groups of wonderful gullible fools point fingers is all. Both blindly supporting corrupt pervs. Always trying to elevate your own perv higher than the other.

"Oh you're gonna accuse my guy of being a womanizing corrupt pedophile? Well your guy is more of a pedophile.....oh yea and he KILLS BABIES"

That's why I cast my vote based on policy and not whether they are a good person or not because they are not.

It's the system it corrupts each and everyone of them.

 

[dgtatu01]

Sorry, some people have integrity. Some people expect the president to protect us, or at the minimum notify of us, of the dangers we face. We expect his not to pander to hate, racism and fear. And we expect him to be a decent human being, not a racist misogynist. And I for one can't understand anyone who isn't racist supporting Trump.

He's not christian
He doesn't help the less fortunate
He's ruined our image internationally
He lied about a pandemic
He put the country at risk of a pandemic just to further his election hopes
He wants to stop counting votes just so he win (see dictator playbook)
He admittedly lies to the people constantly
He has enriched his businesses and kids by being president
His economy overwhelming favors the ultra rich (not the majority of his southern, white, poor voting base)
The economy is generally better under dem presidents

You being went batshit over a BJ in oval but claim divine intervention when a serial cheater, porn star banging grab em by the ___ used car salesman gets elected. The hypocrisy is limitless with the right.

I am with you, please see my battles in the political thread. I still think there are valid reasons to vote for Trump though so I am understanding of that vote. It's not insurrection like I said. That said I will debate vigorously that he is unfit for the office and people should not vote for him. I will not demonize those who do though.

 

[dgtatu01]

In general you are correct. However the level division due to income gap, race, political affiliation and geography is worse than it's ever been.

No, we will never be completely united, but there doesn't need to this much. But when people only look for news to confirm their own views then we end up where we are. Critical thinking has been lost in this country the best evidence of which is a segment of the population refusing the part with the myth of god (like most of the developed world has). I mean you'll believe in those stories, whether they be muslim, christian, jewish ..etc. then you are not applying critical thinking and instead are relying on a age old wives tale told in multiple forms, all believing they are the only true wives tale, all over the world. It's a ridiculous concept on it's face which is why they practice indoctrination as such a young age. Religions know if you let people have choice and free thought, without the brainwashing from birth, people will see straight through the fairytale.

Now you're taking it too far. You're demonizing people of faith. That's uncalled for and you are doing exactly what you are railing against. Be understanding and empathetic. Try to understand instead of villifying.

 

[Ryan Lemonds Hair]

I agree with you. I have always said that if they aren't corrupt going in they will be going out. I like Ben Carson but hate to see a good man ruined by politics.

If you think McCain, Romney, Bush, Kerry, Gore, or Obama are high integrity people I've got a bridge to sell you. Our politicians are corrupt, period, end of story. If they are new and are not corrupt just give it a term or 2.

 

[TurnipDaBeet]

Boooo BOOOOOO booooo

BOOOOOOOOOO

*freedom of boo*

 

[TurnipDaBeet]

Fear Porn

 

[WayneDougan_rivals170043]

Facebook is a haven for conspiracy theory ******** and extremist propaganda/recruiting. It’s a cancer on the world.

Get better friends. I block any loser who does that crap.

 

[ryanbruner]

Get better friends. I block any loser who does that crap.

I need to but if I did that I’d have to block my father lmao

 

[Ryan Lemonds Hair]

I know some folks who moved to KY because they were tired of dealing with the liberal stuff in Cali. Imagine that, someone wanting to leave God's gift to humanity California for old hillbilly infested KY.

I live in Ca. I hate Ca. Would move if I could. But I get a bit pissy when I see people say nuke the whole thing, hope it breaks off, eff em etc.

There are a ton of patriots out here fighting for the state, their rights, etc. Good people. Conservative people. Pro 2A people. People that love the country.

We’ve had thousands of recall petitions against Newsome ongoing. Lawsuits. Noncompliance of health orders. More rallies for Trump In LA, Sacramento etc and more patriotism on display than I’ve ever seen out here. And guess what?

The state went even bluer this election.

You guys have no idea the amount of corruption
up against out here. You’re getting just a taste of it right now with this national election fraud. When Kamala takes over, you’ll see just what SF politics is all about. Maybe she’ll even appoint her buddy Gavin as VP

 

[BlueRunner11]

I know some folks who moved to KY because they were tired of dealing with the liberal stuff in Cali. Imagine that, someone wanting to leave God's gift humanity California for old hillbilly infested KY.

Id LOVE to be back in KY...Counting the days/years. Just here for my kids.

 

[BlueBallz_rivals30790]

I know some folks who moved to KY because they were tired of dealing with the liberal stuff in Cali. Imagine that, someone wanting to leave God's gift to humanity California for old hillbilly infested KY.

My wife is from Fort Worth and we've been back to Kentucky a few times. She LOVES it in Kentucky and wants to move there. Once our kids leave for college, we very well may move back.

 

[Diggers_Matching_Highlighter_rivals62132]

A pandemic isn't like Bin Laden taking down the towers or Japan bombing Pearl Harbor though.

You're right...by about 230,000.

 

[BlueRunner11]

You're right...by about 230,000.

230,000 deaths!!

Look, Yearly/Monthly US Death totals have remained the same since at least 2017...this is still true since covid.

Per cdc
2017 2,813,000
2018 2,859,000
2019 2,839,000
2020 2,836,000 projected

My point is not many people died JUST from covid.

Those that did die w Covid likely died from another cause as a primary (flu, PNA, diabetes, even old age) that would’ve died approx sometime this year anyway (statistically speaking) from that primary cause. Again, this is all on the cdc website.

Another consideration is the flu is magically down 95 percent so far this year. Why is that? Because its being called covid. Andy would say it’s because of the introduction of “masks”. He would be lying or an idiot. If masks are so effective against the flu then why aren’t the covid numbers down 95 percent as well instead of “increasing.” Because it’s bs.

No matter what the news media and politicians say... it’s not a pandemic. It’s another bug and like all bugs, it causes problems for the immunocompromised people.

We’ve got to start getting grounded in reality and stop the fear mongering with this ****.

 

[ryanbruner]

230,000 deaths!!

Look, Yearly/Monthly US Death totals have remained the same since at least 2017...this is still true since covid.

Per cdc
2017 2,813,000
2018 2,859,000
2019 2,839,000
2020 2,836,000 projected

My point is not many people died JUST from covid.

Those that did die w Covid likely died from another cause as a primary (flu, PNA, diabetes, even old age) that would’ve died approx sometime this year anyway (statistically speaking) from that primary cause. Again, this is all on the cdc website.

Another consideration is the flu is magically down 95 percent so far this year. Why is that? Because its being called covid. Andy would say it’s because of the introduction of “masks”. He would be lying or an idiot. If masks are so effective against the flu then why aren’t the covid numbers down 95 percent as well instead of “increasing.” Because it’s bs.

No matter what the news media and politicians say... it’s not a pandemic. It’s another bug and like all bugs, it causes problems for the immunocompromised people.

We’ve got to start getting grounded in reality and stop the fear mongering with this ****.

This dude do the math for you?

 

[BlueRunner11]

This dude do the math for you?

idk who that is...funny tho