Shouldn't an SEC team have 2 QBs on the roster that can throw the ball?

[ashleys handfull]

Why are there QBs on roster if coaches don't think they can play? They haven't done anything to improve that position for usgoing forward.

They will go toUT with ultra conservative game plan next week like they did against Bama earlier this year but UT won't be so conservative like Bama so has potential to be ugly. Playing 10 on 11 from The Wildcat isn't going to do it down there.

 

[brianpoe]

Not a newbie, just lurked for several years, post count started back at zero.

I know I'm dealing with a message board know it all that is accepting of below average QB play and position management that is preaching the longtime UK mantra of wait til next year. That's really homerific because next year doesn't look any better at the position, there is no evidence to support it. The coaches here have yet to prove they can improve that position.

Have you read any other posts other than your own?

Several posters, including me have all stated that QB play is an issue.

People are not accepting it because it is ok, we are accepting it because we are at the end of the season and there is nothing we can do about it right now.

You may think we don't look any better next year at the position, that to me is kind of stupid. Just my opinion.

We have the same guy back next year in SJ - if no one beats him out he will still have this year's experience behind him and will have improved somewhat...

I think someone will emerge, we do not need a Tom Brady, with our running game we just need a reliable, accurate thrower.

Crying about next year right now seems a bit dramatic.

 

[reflaine]

Read the above post. Johnson was brought here to be the back up this year, Wright is a walk on transfer. Who knows the offense and can help teach it. Hoak is a true freshman we was really wanting to redshirt to separate himself and barker by more than one year.

That's why. You don't lose two qbs out of your top three, and the other one get hurt in first two weeks and expect everything to be unicorns and rainbows

 

[Poetax]

Our QB play and subsequent management blows, admit it.

The coaches let a capable game manager and senior with the most experience get away, then got caught with their pants down when the next man in line, apparently the only other one on an 85 man roster that can consistently throw, got hurt. They did and have done little to adjust and are doing nothing to prepare a guy for next year.

And if you think all these QBs on the roster now will be here to only sit the bench you are nuts. Several are only being groomed to transfer.

Well I had hopes that you were all about having a discussion but it looks like we just have another whiner.

 

[brianpoe]

Why are there QBs on roster if coaches don't think they can play? They haven't done anything to improve that position for usgoing forward.

They will go toUT with ultra conservative game plan next week like they did against Bama earlier this year but UT won't be so conservative like Bama so has potential to be ugly. Playing 10 on 11 from The Wildcat isn't going to do it down there.

Again, this is college football and not all true freshmen are ready to play.

Do you really need another fan to explain all of this to you?


UT and UL really do not matter, people need to stop moving the goalposts.

This team needed to get to a bowl this year.

After overcoming terrible play early in the season and the loss of the starting QB it is great that they are able to achieve this goal.

Next year we need to do better.

 

[ashleys handfull]

How can you say Johnson has improved when the biggest change is lining him up worthlessly at WR in crunch time of ballgame? This staff has failed at this position. Grade F.

 

[ashleys handfull]

Unbelievable now we are accepting the conceding of games against UT and UofL.

Just unbelievably cowardice acceptance of mediocrity.

 

[reflaine]

How many yards did he throw for at mizzu last week mostly in the first half before we went into clock mode. How many this week along with a perfect 50+ yarder that because was dropped resulted in an interception. What did he do last night that cost us any part of that game

He is not going to put up lorenzen numbers. Who by the way never won four sec games in a year either

 

[Poetax]

Unbelievable now we are accepting the conceding of games against UT and UofL.

Just unbelievably cowardice acceptance of mediocrity.

You are badly mistaken if you think anybody gives a turd about your opinion. Several posters have made comments on our QB's limited abilities, so for you to think that you are special only shows your childish ambitions for being on here.

 

[brianpoe]

How can you say Johnson has improved when the biggest change is lining him up worthlessly at WR in crunch time of ballgame? This staff has failed at this position. Grade F.

Unbelievable now we are accepting the conceding of games against UT and UofL.

Just unbelievably cowardice acceptance of mediocrity.

Your lack of reading comprehension is astounding.

I never said he has improved, I said by next year he will have this season under his belt and that can only help him, improvement wise.

If you were an idiot and expected us to beat UGA and UT preseason then whine all you want.

I'm not going to change my expectations as the team progresses through this season - my expectations next year will be higher.

The only thing that is unbelievable is that you think your whining and complaining is going to change things before Saturday..?

 

[bthaunert]

Who on this team is being developed to be a good SEC caliber start QB for next season?

Obviously Barker and Hoak are the ones the coaches are/will work with to make our QB position much more of a threat next year. I've said on here before that I would love to go into a season with a successful, proven starter, something we haven't done in quite a few years. You do not pull Hoak's redshirt though. If he was good enough, he would already be in there. But you don't pull it because "he can't be any worse than the guy in there right now".

The funny thing is I can remember last year when everyone wanted Barker so bad, and we get Barker and this year, everyone is screaming for SJ so bad during the Florida game. I agree 100% that our QB play his been an issue for us. I also know that you normally don't expect 2 guys who have experience at that position to leave in the off season.

Regardless, we need to get the QB situation figured out for next year.

 

[JasonRDunn]

Agreed that QB position is a weakness now. But, we were all very happy with getting a commitment from Towles and Barker, who were reasonably highly rated by recruiting services. It hasn't worked out like we would have liked and maybe we should have brought someone in to provide more support and guidance to Towles than we did.

that being said, if you think the coaches are holding someone out in order to save them for later (particularly after being on the reputed "hot seat" after the first few games), then I got nothing for you. Coaches play who they think will help them win this year and for years to come. Second guess all you want, but we all thought we looked good at QB, when we got Towles and Barker.

 

[reflaine]

And who is conserving those upcoming games. I want to save the redshirt for hoak if possible (think you do that for sure now).

But we have played our best football with Johnson at qb for whatever reason. Stay with it. And who is to say that hoak is better right now. Yes he has more upside but georgias qb was not that great throwing the ball last night and he was the top rated qb in the entire country and will more than likely be a first round pick. His comparing to Stafford is dead on. We needed to reach a bowl this year, we have done that. Now look for the betterment of the program in the long run.

Running hoak out for a series to get drilled (our line does struggle pass blocking and throw a pick six and go right back to Johnson could hurt the program way more then riding with Johnson the rest of the way. The guy led the game winning drive to state, and has played well enough to win four other games.

 

[JC CATS]

Any kind of a consistent passing game would work wonders for this squad. Even just somebody that can dump it off to RBs and TEs. Do we not have a player on an 85 man scholarship roster that can complete short and midrange passes?

Hell some NFL teams don't have 2 QB's

 

[ashleys handfull]

Rah rah next year rah rah

We'll just shake those pom poms all the way to .500, don't worry about losing 3 out of 4 to get there.

Are we conceding the W in the bowl game too? With pom poms in hand of course

 

[Anon1660081258]

Has Clark spoken of early enrollment?

 

[JC CATS]

Who is settling for medicoricty?

Was anyone complaininG two years ago against South Carolina when we ran only the wildcat the entire second half?

We were put in a tough spot with the qb position. Perfect world would of been towles was the starter this year with barker a back up. (Phillips third string, hoak red shirts). But when barker passed by towles (competition is a god thing usually) you can not blame him for wanting to play his senior season. That started the domino. Phillips didn't see a chance to play here, and left. Hoak was you heir apparent to barker. Johnson is nothing but an emergency fill in. Who has won five game btw.

No use arguing with these football experts. We are going bowling and that upsets their agenda to get a new coach. Yeah boy, let's start over

 

[JC CATS]

Rah rah next year rah rah

We'll just shake those pom poms all the way to .500, don't worry about losing 3 out of 4 to get there.

Are we conceding the W in the bowl game too? With pom poms in hand of course

188 posts, have they all been this positive?

 

[brianpoe]

Rah rah next year rah rah

We'll just shake those pom poms all the way to .500, don't worry about losing 3 out of 4 to get there.

Are we conceding the W in the bowl game too? With pom poms in hand of course

Again, it is college football in the SEC, you are obviously lacking knowledge and not ashamed to let everyone know it.

This is going to be a process, bowl game was the target this year. Got it.

Next year we need to take another step.

 

[ashleys handfull]

No it's not again, this isn't typical SEC East. That was not a typical UGA team. This offense passing has looked awful v decent to good SEC teams, that's what's typical.

I want Stoops to be the guy, he won't be any better until he figures out the QB position.

Post count got reset. Besides that doesn't make you any more knowledgeable, it just makes you appear to not have as much of a life besides the Internet.

 

[brianpoe]

No it's not again, this isn't typical SEC East. That was not a typical UGA team. This offense passing has looked awful v decent to good SEC teams, that's what's typical.

I want Stoops to be the guy, he won't be any better until he figures out the QB position.

Post count got reset. Besides that doesn't make you any more knowledgeable, it just makes you appear to not have as much of a life besides the Internet.

QB position isnt going to get figured out until next year at the earliest.

So why continue on with this tirade?

 

[ashleys handfull]

Why post yor homerdom over and over we get it.

 

[WildCard]

Read the above post. Johnson was brought here to be the back up this year, Wright is a walk on transfer. Who knows the offense and can help teach it. Hoak is a true freshman we was really wanting to redshirt to separate himself and barker by more than one year.

That's why. You don't lose two qbs out of your top three, and the other one get hurt in first two weeks and expect everything to be unicorns and rainbows

I think that pretty well explains it. Barker's injury pretty well decimated the position.

As I have said before, this was a year you play ANYBODY who can help you get a win and that includes Hoak. But, W/L-wise, Johnson has played "well". IF the Cats had lost some of those earlier games we might have seen Hoak but you don't mess with with what you are winning with. However, it is now much too late burn his shirt even if Johnson gets injured.

It's been ugly at times but Gran has done a great job playing the hand he was dealt. The downside here is, come spring practice, UK goes back to their usual springtime game of QB Roulette.

Peace

 

[brianpoe]

Why post yor homerdom over and over we get it.

Because you are an idiot?

You obviously have no idea who I am. I am still taking heat for my criticisms early in the season. I'm still not totally sold on CMS.

Everyone knows this but you.

You have no idea who the homers are here.

You are a drive by troll with very little knowledge of college football.

Keep whining and crying about the same subject that you are not adult enough to discuss or debate.

 

[billoliver40]

My wish list for the team breaks down this way:
More depth on the d line
More high motor linebackers.
Two more o linemen to red shirt and get that smash mouth attitude.
A punter....or our punter gets much better.
Two sure handed possession type receivers.
THEN......
A.quarterback.
Even with the astounding improvement in play ( if not yet in record)
Kentucky needs quite a few more parts to make the machine run.

 

[Doc4UK!]

How could stoops of handled the qb battle different mentioned above. (I was a towles guy and if we hang on to some very catchable touchdown passes we won 7-8 last year). But towles and the offense and towles never clicked. Whether that been an inside job, or just his ability I don't know. But when it was obvious the offense wasn't going to work they made a switch. Not as far as pat goes why would you ride the bench if your not the guy (after being it for 2 years) why set the bench behind someone hoping he gets hurt. He had a chance to go somewhere and play and did that.

Phillips seen the writing on the wall. Barker was going to get the ball. And he didn't have a year looking forward of if he will be the guy as when barker would be gone, sowould he. So off he goes.

Now that leaves you with one qb and a true freshman. (Those don't always work out in sec unless your Bama). So you find a backup in juco. Just so happens that guy has played very well but is limited. But I'm proud to call him my qb.

The only way that worked out better is of towles continued to start. And how many wanted that last half of the season?

Looking at sidelines last night. Luke Wright had on one set of head phones and Gunnar Hoak the other set.ie sending in signals to Johnson from sidelines. I did not see Barker if he was in fact involved in any way. Back injuries either lend themselves to surgery ie a disc or to rehab ie muscular injury or fracture of a transverse process. Sure seems unusual not to have any time table or news or to see Barker involved in the game in some fashion. Also no one seems to be interviewing him which I also think is unusual. Anyone have any real insight into what is going on ?

 

[ashleys handfull]

Any QB on the roster would be better option than lining up QB over on sideline completely uninvolved in play as RBs take snap and predictably jam it up the middle. Davis Mattingly for example is more capable of getting ball to our RBs and TEs in space but nah, we'll just continue to jam it up the middle via wildcat and we'll damn well like it!

Because you are an idiot?

You obviously have no idea who I am. I am still taking heat for my criticisms early in the season. I'm still not totally sold on CMS.

Everyone knows this but you.

You have no idea who the homers are here.

You are a drive by troll with very little knowledge of college football.

Keep whining and crying about the same subject that you are not adult enough to discuss or debate.

I couldn't care less who you are, you seem to be an anal know it all geek with a redneck three wheeler as an avatar that wishes to control other people's opinions on how this coach's offense is turnover riddled and below average at passing the ball.

 

[brianpoe]

Any QB on the roster would be better option than lining up QB over on sideline completely uninvolved in play as RBs take snap and predictably jam it up the middle. Davis Mattingly for example is more capable of getting ball to our RBs and TEs in space but nah, we'll just continue to jam it up the middle via wildcat and we'll damn well like it!


I couldn't care less who you are, you seem to be an anal know it all geek with a redneck three wheeler as an avatar that wishes to control other people's opinions on how this coach's offense is turnover riddled and below average at passing the ball.

Redneck 3 wheeler that is built in Italy....

You are just a jerk, and not very bright. I have agreed that QB is an issue, as has a million other posters. You think you have made some great revelation?

Not sure what you want people to say? The team is what is for the rest of this season.

Stay mad, whatever.

 

[SanAntonioCat_rivals376502]

Any kind of a consistent passing game would work wonders for this squad. Even just somebody that can dump it off to RBs and TEs. Do we not have a player on an 85 man scholarship roster that can complete short and midrange passes?

My gawd, you want everything.

 

[billoliver40]

Towels abdicated the position when recruiting was pretty much done. Johnson was a last second get from junior college because from everything I've read all the coaches AND Hoak knew he wasn't ready. Then Barker goes down.

This isn't a conspiracy....just bad luck that the staff has had to retool around.

 

[Jon(-24)]

who is Smith

Running joke

Running joke? Ha! Guy's no joke running in open space. He'd have 3x the rushing yards Snell does if we would cut him loose and really let him scramble from the pocket. Lamar Jackson isn't even in the same class as Smith.

Smitty's the best damn QB in the damn state!