Shurburtt on expected MBB roster turnover

[18IsTheMan]

Posted on X that based on his information (?) he expects all but 2-3 players from the current roster to leave. As bad as this team was, that's a good thing. And might be good if every player left.

But that does mean Lamont is going to have be nearly flawless in his use of the portal.

 

[Fried Chicken]

Posted on X that based on his information (?) he expects all but 2-3 players from the current roster to leave. As bad as this team was, that's a good thing. And might be good if every player left.

But that does mean Lamont is going to have be nearly flawless in his use of the portal.

Also posted that he expects the NIL Budget to increase by more than double. No reason to pay these guys more than double for what they they can do.

We’re increasing the budget to bring in new players, hopefully good players. Not to retain the bad ones. We’ll see how it goes…

Guessing we’ll be close to the $10 million mark it seems like every decent team is at or at least at. If we’re going to be competitive in basketball, we had to do this. Not sure if it’s enough to lure the talent here. No doubt it’s a make or break season for Paris next year.

 

[18IsTheMan]

Also posted that he expects the NIL Budget to increase by more than double. No reason to pay these guys more than double for what they they can do.

We’re increasing the budget to bring in new players, hopefully good players. Not to retain the bad ones. We’ll see how it goes…

It would be important to know how much other SEC programs are going to increase their NIL budgets. I would guess that, even after doubling, we'll still be in the bottom half. Although nobody REALLY knows any hard NIL numbers for any program.

This roster was just a total train wreck, though. Maybe Lamont really was just hampered by a poor NIL budget. We'll see. If he's a good coach, he'll have an eye for coachable talent that we can afford.

 

[muscleknight]

LP built his last team to shoot 3 pointers and didn't worry about any bigs.The problem was they couldn't shoot 3 pointers and had no bigs that could go against all the other bigs in the league. If he can't get good bigs out of the portal this portal cycle his fate is sealed.

 

[18IsTheMan]

LP built his last team to shoot 3 pointers and didn't worry about any bigs.The problem was they couldn't shoot 3 pointers and had no bigs that could go against all the other bigs in the league. If he can't get good bigs out of the portal this portal cycle his fate is sealed.

You seemed to follow the team more closely that most.

Is there anyone from this current roster you would say "we really need him to return"?

 

[Rhode Island Dork]

Shurbb-daddy!!

 

[CreekSnake]

Ellis gone.Had some potential but always going to be a defensive liability.

 

[Lurker123]

It would be important to know how much other SEC programs are going to increase their NIL budgets. I would guess that, even after doubling, we'll still be in the bottom half. Although nobody REALLY knows any hard NIL numbers for any program.

We had this EXACT conversation last year. We increased our NIL to be competitive, but then magically its worst in the SEC again.

If we're going to double our NIL only to tread water compared to other schools, I would vote for just buying a new OL for the football team with that money.

 

[18IsTheMan]

Ellis gone.Had some potential but always going to be a defensive liability.

I think the writing was on the wall there a long time ago. When his brother decommitted, I figured this would probably happen.

He was the crown jewel of the previous recruiting class. There were a lot of "just you wait and see" posts about Ellis leading up to this past season. Whether it was him or Paris, he wasn't that good.

 

[Sirgolfalot]

Posted on X that based on his information (?) he expects all but 2-3 players from the current roster to leave. As bad as this team was, that's a good thing. And might be good if every player left.

But that does mean Lamont is going to have be nearly flawless in his use of the portal.

Posted on X that based on his information (?) he expects all but 2-3 players from the current roster to leave. As bad as this team was, that's a good thing. And might be good if every player left.

But that does mean Lamont is going to have be nearly flawless in his use of the portal.

Who?

 

[18IsTheMan]

We had this EXACT conversation last year. We increased our NIL to be competitive, but then magically its worst in the SEC again.

If we're going to double our NIL only to tread water compared to other schools, I would vote for just buying a new OL for the football team with that money.

Yep, I agree. If you're not going to increase it to truly get competitive, then any increase is a waste of money. I said in another thread that we really needed to triple it to even make a competitive dent. Doubling it, in my opinion, does nothing.

My prediction: our increase in NIL spending will roughly offset any savings from waiting until next year to fire Paris.

 

[18IsTheMan]

Who?

JC Shurburtt

 

[Legal_fowl]

Posted on X that based on his information (?) he expects all but 2-3 players from the current roster to leave. As bad as this team was, that's a good thing. And might be good if every player left.

But that does mean Lamont is going to have be nearly flawless in his use of the portal.

I'm guessing that Polk, Butler and Walker will be back. Maybe Assemian too. Just heard Butler is entering the portal so take him off the list.

 

[treyno2722]

This is college basketball in it's current state. When you're a bottom feeder you are going to have this kind of turnover. Look at UK, they spent more on players than anyone else and were dusted by Iowa St yesterday. I really liked our tourney team but that was a horrible matchup against Oregon. Seems like so long ago.

 

[92Pony]

EDIT: nevermind - Just saw where Legal_fowl posted above.

 

[Dabo's Weenie]

So, what I'm taking from all this, "gotta increase the NIL budget (can we just use the corect term of "payroll"?) if they wanna be competitive" talk is that the Jimmies and Joes mean more than the X's and O's.

I agree that it's much easier to look good with great players and they can mask deficient coaching (lookin' at you, Whammy), but it would be even better with a great coach (i.e. Pitino, etc.) to guide them.

 

[JohnnySolo]

Is this the time for LP to guarantee a spot in the tournament next year?

 

[Dabo's Weenie]

They could save themselves a lot of typing on the MBB Transfer Portal List Updates by just posting, "Everyone not named Lamont Paris".

In all honesty, it's looked like this pretty much since Skinny Frank Martin arrived - the roster seemed to have almost total turnover every year. Back then it seemed to be guys that didn't want to play his D, but it was still the same result.

 

[gamecox4982]

I don’t think LP is able to coach elite talent to success - he should have been fired

 

[Tngamecock]

Well, one thing is for sure, Paris won’t get any big man to come here. He ruins them and never lets them play. I would’ve liked to have kept Ellis.

 

[18IsTheMan]

This is college basketball in it's current state. When you're a bottom feeder you are going to have this kind of turnover. Look at UK, they spent more on players than anyone else and were dusted by Iowa St yesterday. I really liked our tourney team but that was a horrible matchup against Oregon. Seems like so long ago.

I agree on the current state of affairs, but if anyone watched any of our games, why would they want any of our players?

 

[treyno2722]

I agree on the current state of affairs, but if anyone watched any of our games, why would they want any of our players?

I would take Elijah Strong and Eli Ellis.

 

[18IsTheMan]

I'm guessing that Polk, Butler and Walker will be back. Maybe Assemian too. Just heard Butler is entering the portal so take him off the list.

Butler gone

 

[RL09]

It would be important to know how much other SEC programs are going to increase their NIL budgets. I would guess that, even after doubling, we'll still be in the bottom half. Although nobody REALLY knows any hard NIL numbers for any program.

This roster was just a total train wreck, though. Maybe Lamont really was just hampered by a poor NIL budget. We'll see. If he's a good coach, he'll have an eye for coachable talent that we can afford.

In my opinion Paris isn't a good coach at his level, he may show a little improvement by default, but I am not expecting much from this guy.

 

[Legal_fowl]

Butler gone

I heard this morning that EJ Walker will enter the portal too.

 

[18IsTheMan]

I heard this morning that EJ Walker will enter the portal too.

womp womp

Oh well. I still wonder who would find many players on this roster desirable, but maybe they're just that poorly coached.

edit: I didn't see your edit about Butler leaving before I responded to your post.

 

[18IsTheMan]

In my opinion Paris isn't a good coach at his level, he may show a little improvement by default, but I am not expecting much from this guy.

I don't think it's opinion as much as objective fact.

 

[StickyBandit]

womp womp

Oh well. I still wonder who would find many players on this roster desirable, but maybe they're just that poorly coached.

edit: I didn't see your edit about Butler leaving before I responded to your post.

The rumor is Walker wanted a bag that we would never give him

 

[18IsTheMan]

The rumor is Walker wanted a bag that we would never give him

How much did he think his 2.9 ppg was worth?

 

[3USC1801]

The rumor is Walker wanted a bag that we would never give him

And this is what “amateur“ sports has become — a money grab where greed causes contention, dissatisfaction, and disloyalty.

Remind me again, why do we follow college teams?

 

[KingWard]

Posted on X that based on his information (?) he expects all but 2-3 players from the current roster to leave. As bad as this team was, that's a good thing. And might be good if every player left.

But that does mean Lamont is going to have be nearly flawless in his use of the portal.

Of course it does. He's only continuing as a concession to finances. This won't happen next year if our crapiness approaches this year's levels.

 

[StickyBandit]

How much did he think his 2.9 ppg was worth?

No clue but we didn’t bite

 

[JohnnySolo]

His pitch should be come play for me for 1 year and show out so you can go somewhere else to get the bag.

 

[StickyBandit]

And this is what “amateur“ sports has become — a money grab where greed causes contention, dissatisfaction, and disloyalty.

Remind me again, why do we follow college teams?

It’s getting harder and harder for me to want to follow

 

[KingWard]

If the highest level of team sports has true structure, then so should anything beneath that.