SIAP: DeVries was in communication with IU while he potentially going into the tourney.

MegaBlue05

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And people wonder why I don't get upset over the player portal. Wade leaving his team DURING the tourney and DeVries would've too potentially had WVU made it.


I feel the same way. The NCAA used to demand the players play for the cost of room and board while coaches could waltz away from multi-million dollar contracts in the middle of the night if a better gig came open.
 

bbnkat02

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Got your governor trying to have your back because the system is so corrupt and all the while you’re making back room deals with another team. Can’t make this **** up!!!
Glad you said that because this is exactly what I thought of. I get you have to do what's best for you in life, but SOME loyalty and honor would be nice.
 
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I feel the same way. The NCAA used to demand the players play for the cost of room and board while coaches could waltz away from multi-million dollar contracts in the middle of the night if a better gig came open.

To be fair, the new school needs to pay for that. Pretty much all coaches (except for Cal, apparently), have pretty substantial buyouts. So yes, this coach can leave, but IU is going to have to pay WVU through the nose in order to get it.

And on the flip side, if coaches get let go, they get paid out a big buyout, so it protects and rewards them a bit.

No buyouts for transfers, no obligation, just the wild west.

And if players are "asked to leave" or moved on from at their current schools, they don't get a buyout or any compensation. They are just out in the cold.

I am a HUGE fan of the portal, NIL, all of it. I think it should be all about the players. But the portal is a very different reality than buying coaches out of contracts.
 
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Izzo did this with us.
Tubby and Minnesota
Bill Frieder accepted Arizona State job before tourney. Bo S told him to go ahead and leave and that's how Steve Fischer won a national championship with 0 regular season wins.
 

bbnkat02

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Most employees talk to a new employer before letting their current employer know. This isn't new.
Issue is, most people in this country aren't under contract, but are at will. Most of us can walk into our boss tomorrow, tell them to pound sand, and walk out. Now, DeVries contract may have had no clause about is, but a lot of coaches usually have to inform their universities if they are in contact with another school.

Nontheless, WVU was fighting for a tourney spot, their governor just went to bat for their team and this guy, and he was basically out the door.

It's not illegal, maybe not even immoral. But it's a ****** thing to do.
 

*Fox2Monk*

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And people wonder why I don't get upset over the player portal. Wade leaving his team DURING the tourney and DeVries would've too potentially had WVU made it.

Of course he was, they hired him Sunday night pretty much. WVU is seriously butt hurt about him leaving though.
 

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And people wonder why I don't get upset over the player portal. Wade leaving his team DURING the tourney and DeVries would've too potentially had WVU made it.

Wade addressed the team about it and is coaching the tournament. I’m sure DD would have as well. He lied about contact with IU but most coaches do.
 

*Fox2Monk*

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Got your governor trying to have your back because the system is so corrupt and all the while you’re making back room deals with another team. Can’t make this **** up!!!
The Governor is having the university’s back more so than the coach, but I agree it’s crazy.
 
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bbnkat02

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Wade addressed the team about it and is coaching the tournament. I’m sure DD would have as well. He lied about contact with IU but most coaches do.

I didn't mean leave in the phsyical sense. But do you think he's mentally still at McNeese? Hell no. And how is his team supposed to respond and feel? This coach that you've fought with all year is now going... "Well......bye"

I mean, why should they even care now? I dunno. Just seems like a really ratty thing to do.
 
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To be fair, the new school needs to pay for that. Pretty much all coaches (except for Cal, apparently), have pretty substantial buyouts. So yes, this coach can leave, but IU is going to have to pay WVU through the nose in order to get it.

And on the flip side, if coaches get let go, they get paid out a big buyout, so it protects and rewards them a bit.

No buyouts for transfers, no obligation, just the wild west.

And if players are "asked to leave" or moved on from at their current schools, they don't get a buyout or any compensation. They are just out in the cold.

I am a HUGE fan of the portal, NIL, all of it. I think it should be all about the players. But the portal is a very different reality than buying coaches out of contracts.
They paid WVU 6.2 million to hire him. 4 million buyout, the firm used to hire him, and expenses related to him leaving and taking the job.
 

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I didn't mean leave in the phsyical sense. But do you think he's mentally still at McNeese? Hell no. And how is his team supposed to respond and feel? This coach that you've fought with all year is now going... "Well......bye"

I mean, why should they even care now? I dunno. Just seems like a really ratty thing to do.
We will see, they aren’t favored to win a game anyway. I think he at least told his guys yeah I am probably gonna take this job and my agent is speaking to them. At least he didn’t BS them while acting like he was all in or something.
 
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To be fair, the new school needs to pay for that. Pretty much all coaches (except for Cal, apparently), have pretty substantial buyouts. So yes, this coach can leave, but IU is going to have to pay WVU through the nose in order to get it.

And on the flip side, if coaches get let go, they get paid out a big buyout, so it protects and rewards them a bit.

No buyouts for transfers, no obligation, just the wild west.

And if players are "asked to leave" or moved on from at their current schools, they don't get a buyout or any compensation. They are just out in the cold.

I am a HUGE fan of the portal, NIL, all of it. I think it should be all about the players. But the portal is a very different reality than buying coaches out of contracts.
Coaches also are guaranteed their pay, players are not.
 

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Do we think his kid knew that he was in talks to leave and had to carry that secret most of the season? Not that it matters, but adds to the drama.
 
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I understand society has changed; many words we used all our lives are now deemed inappropriate; people walking around with multi colored hair, kids coming in for job interviews wearing sandals. I get it; times have changed.
But is there no loyalty left in our society?
As a coach you set the environment for your players. Same as a father, boss, you create the environment, enforce the rules but when this crap happens, how do you expect kids to not have the same mentality?

I know I am old and past my prime, but if a WW broke out, F-it, I am going. This new society we have, I can see soldiers changing sides over who pays more.
Just wrong. Please stop trying to justify this folks.
 
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I believe ironically enough WVU still owed Drake some on that buyout package and IU had to agree to pay off the balance of the Drake buyout AND the full WVU buyout.
Wow that’s an awful a lot of hands in the cookie jar just to get a coach and then IU has to pay him a yearly salary. I mean could you imagine. Having to pay 3 different schools ( counting your own school)just to get a coach. I just don’t think the guy is worth all that.
 
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