SIAP: Pat Forde Article

[Bulya]

Just what the Blue Lot needed to start the weekend.

https://www.si.com/college/2020/07/16/trump-fumble-coronavirus-response-college-football-season

 

[ahott]

Just what the Blue Lot needed to start the weekend.

https://www.si.com/college/2020/07/16/trump-fumble-coronavirus-response-college-football-season

Lol. Everything is Trumps fault. The lefts motto. Lmao

 

[WV Jim WV]

In. My guess is that this lasts less than a page before getting moved.

 

[coopwvu08]

Lol. Everything is Trumps fault. The lefts motto. Lmao

I mean he is the guy in charge...

 

[ahott]

In. My guess is that this lasts less than a page before getting moved.

They could play. They won’t though. Litigation . Just easier to pass the blame.

 

[WV Jim WV]

I mean he is the guy in charge...

Of course he is. He made Cuomo send all of those COVID cases back to the nursing homes, didn't he?

There is so much ******** out there with reporting it's truly hard to tell where we actually are. UFB.

 

[squigsWV]

Of course he is. He made Cuomo send all of those COVID cases back to the nursing homes, didn't he?

There is so much ******** out there with reporting it's truly hard to tell where we actually are. UFB.

Is it too much to ask to just report the damn news? I am sick and tired of everything being an editorial piece. Journalistic Integrity is basically non-existent anymore. Thank God for VB, KC and crew. They just tell it like it is, wish everyone could do that and the world be better off.

 

[Nova Mountaineer]

Just what the Blue Lot needed to start the weekend.

https://www.si.com/college/2020/07/16/trump-fumble-coronavirus-response-college-football-season

No mention of the fact that Communist China unleash the coronavirus on the world after lying about it for several months.
As some have noted before the coronavirus problem will disappear November 4 if the President is defeated for re-election.

 

[WV Jim WV]

Is it too much to ask to just report the damn news? I am sick and tired of everything being an editorial piece. Journalistic Integrity is basically non-existent anymore. Thank God for VB, KC and crew. They just tell it like it is, wish everyone could do that and the world be better off.

Libs cannot help but spread their wealth of intellectual capacity to all of us. Thanks for framing the story so that it becomes a political commentary rather than a sports story, Pat. Idiot.

 

[coopwvu08]

Of course he is. He made Cuomo send all of those COVID cases back to the nursing homes, didn't he?

There is so much ******** out there with reporting it's truly hard to tell where we actually are. UFB.

everyone fvcked this up, but at the end of the day Trump is president and it falls to him, just as it would with any other president in office. The left blames him for everything but the right refuses to blame him for anything I like to think there’s a happy medium

 

[WV Jim WV]

everyone fvcked this up, but at the end of the day Trump is president and it falls to him, just as it would with any other president in office. The left blames him for everything but the right refuses to blame him for anything I like to think there’s a happy medium

The truth always lies somewhere in between.

The problem with the left is that they are so hellbent on the destruction of Trump that they will seemingly do whatever it takes to have the country fail - all so they can win an election.

 

[ahott]

I mean he is the guy in charge...

Of college football? When did that happen?

 

[Gold-n-Blue]

I voted Republican for a long time before Trump... But this sums it up to me, sure the left blames Trump for a lot of things. But like it or not, the statement below is accurate:

"Slow to respond, quick to downplay the risk, unwilling to create a national strategy, quite willing to attack governors who took the pandemic seriously, pushing for premature openings of states, flaunting a no-mask stance for months and turning that into a belligerent political statement, Trump and his ideologues are now marinating in a midsummer mess of their own creation. What an epic failure of leadership, one that will deprive Trump of his cherished autumn fealty festivals at a packed football stadium."

 

[coopwvu08]

The truth always lies somewhere in between.

The problem with the left is that they are so hellbent on the destruction of Trump that they will seemingly do whatever it takes to have the country fail - all so they can win an election.

let’s not pretend trump isn’t an ******* bully, that’s why so many on the right like his “say it how it is” moxy. And when you act like an ******* people are gonna treat you like one it’s that simple. As I said earlier it goes both ways no one group is responsible for all this hate in America. Long gone are the days of honest debate and discussion, now it’s just name calling and Twitter battles. This all started in 2016 and it’s not going away ever I think.

 

[Casey Ryback]

Lol. Everything is Trumps fault. The lefts motto. Lmao

As a Trump supporter & voter, his handling of the virus was a cluster f#%!.

 

[WV Jim WV]

I voted Republican for a long time before Trump... But this sums it up to me, sure the left blames Trump for a lot of things. But like it or not, the statement below is accurate:

"Slow to respond, quick to downplay the risk, unwilling to create a national strategy, quite willing to attack governors who took the pandemic seriously, pushing for premature openings of states, flaunting a no-mask stance for months and turning that into a belligerent political statement, Trump and his ideologues are now marinating in a midsummer mess of their own creation. What an epic failure of leadership, one that will deprive Trump of his cherished autumn fealty festivals at a packed football stadium."

Voted Republican before Trump. So you never supported him.

That means you support the left and all that comes with it? No need to list what that means but, damn.

 

[coopwvu08]

Of college football? When did that happen?

No of America...did you forget?

 

[wvushwag98]

 

[ahott]

I want one of those chairs.

 

[brandonjags8]

Cuomo yesterday said he will give bars/restaurants 3 strikes. if they do not obey him he will shut them down forever. what a nice guy looking out for his people and businesses.


also, pat forde will never be read by me again. used to like him. what a moron. people like this are making me start to HOPE sports are cancelled forever and I can just lock myself up in a dark room and look at the wall til im dead lol

 

[5150]

As a Trump supporter & voter, his handling of the virus was a cluster f#%!.

Thing is Justice comes calls our Morgantown for their lack of attention to have masks on and everyone wants Justice out. No one wants to do the right thing.

 

[MichiganEER_rivals]

I voted Republican for a long time before Trump... But this sums it up to me, sure the left blames Trump for a lot of things. But like it or not, the statement below is accurate:

"Slow to respond, quick to downplay the risk, unwilling to create a national strategy, quite willing to attack governors who took the pandemic seriously, pushing for premature openings of states, flaunting a no-mask stance for months and turning that into a belligerent political statement, Trump and his ideologues are now marinating in a midsummer mess of their own creation. What an epic failure of leadership, one that will deprive Trump of his cherished autumn fealty festivals at a packed football stadium."

ditto. was a registered Republican and voted same for 34 years. posters quick to label me a liberal, when in fact when we moved to FL, registered as a Independent.

 

[WVU enginEER]

Pat Forde is just pissed off that he is about to be laid-off cause no sports, and wants to blame someone cause he gonna lose his big fat huge elitist paycheck. Effhim

 

[wvu2007]

Pat Forde is a far left liberal like OP

 

[43rd Parallel]

Most other developed nations have flattened the curve. Life is getting back to something close to normal in much of Western Europe and Eastern Asia. Schools are reopening. Sports have resumed.

What those nations share is a strong federal response. They attacked the virus in a unified, top-down manner. Communities were given clear marching orders on how to repel the virus. The public was asked to make shared sacrifices -- masks in public venues, personal hygiene, social distancing -- to protect themselves, their loved ones, and their neighbors. For the most part, the leaders of those nations have seen their approval ratings skyrocket.

In our nation, the president likened Rona to fighting a war, but he has not behaved like a war-time commander-in-chief. He hasn't sent out clear marching orders (such as "wear a damn mask, snowflake") or marshaled every resource a great nation can bring to bear. Instead, he left strategy and tactics to the states. It will go down in history as a failure of leadership on an epic scale.

It also has been a botched opportunity for the president personally. His approval rating on how he has handled the virus is in the toilet. If he were seen as a strong and successful leader in this "war," his approval rating on handling the pandemic would be closer to 80% than 30%. And he would win a second term in a cakewalk.

Blame the liberals and the media and the socialists and whoever you like for dissing the president, but the truth is that he has listened to the wrong people and followed the wrong advice on how to respond to Rona. He has been his own worst enemy.

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

let’s not pretend trump isn’t an ******* bully, that’s why so many on the right like his “say it how it is” moxy. And when you act like an ******* people are gonna treat you like one it’s that simple. As I said earlier it goes both ways no one group is responsible for all this hate in America. Long gone are the days of honest debate and discussion, now it’s just name calling and Twitter battles. This all started in 2016 and it’s not going away ever I think.

You’re high if you think this started in 2016. 2016 is just when the GOP started to fight back. Going back to Bush in about 05-06 is when the left became unhinged and dominated the fight for about a decade. Sure, you could throw in the Clinton Whitewater stuff, or go back the SCOTUS stuff with Bork, but those were isolated fights. The left organized and got serious in 06 on Iraq. We tried to maintain a level of decorum, even through Obama, our prominent leaders were still trying to hold the middle. The TeaParty contributed to what occurred in 16, so we’re not without blame, but no period in history compares to the lengths the left has gone since Trump was elected.

 

[Gold-n-Blue]

Voted Republican before Trump. So you never supported him.

That means you support the left and all that comes with it? No need to list what that means but, damn.

Yeah, Trump lost me with his general approach and non qualifications during the primaries. I think the "Right" has done a GREAT job of convincing their base that a vote for Democrats=Socialism. American Politics, even on the Democrat side, are nowhere near socialism. I am in the computer science field and the disregard of science embraced by Trump is also disturbing to me. More disturbing than the possibilities of democratic socialism.

 

[wvu84fan]

let’s not pretend trump isn’t an ******* bully, that’s why so many on the right like his “say it how it is” moxy. And when you act like an ******* people are gonna treat you like one it’s that simple. As I said earlier it goes both ways no one group is responsible for all this hate in America. Long gone are the days of honest debate and discussion, now it’s just name calling and Twitter battles. This all started in 2016 and it’s not going away ever I think.

Coop, I unfortunately think you are correct in that the days of honest debate and discussion are over. I remember back in the 80s and really into the 90s, you could lean to one side, have honest debate, not necessarily agree with the other side but still compromise. Those days are over and I blame the gerrymandering of congressional districts for the current climate, and both parties are to blame for that. If I represent a district that is 70% red or 70% blue, why would I ever compromise? If I did that, I am going to lose my job.

The really sad part is that in the grand scheme of life, the sides are rally not that far apart. However, if I am conservative and only watch Fox News, I never get a real understanding of the left and if I am liberal and only watch CNN, I never get a real understanding of the right. Most of us want the same things for our kids and families. It is a shame that this democracy experiment called USA has come to this.

I have been working on an "essential" project in TX and have been traveling back and forth between NC and TX for the past several months. The project site is in the middle of nowhere and I am staying in a hotel about 20 miles away from the site (closest I could find). I was hanging outside one evening having a smoke and drinking a beer and there were two other guys outside and we talked for several hours. They are both conservative and Trump supporters (one is from OK and the other from LA) and I am liberal and a never-Trumper. We still managed to have a civil discussion regarding Covid, abortion, guns, religion, etc., pretty much all the hot button topics, and while we disagreed on pretty much everything, we were still able to have the discussion and perhaps understand the others viewpoints and how they arrived there. No one was angry, we agreed to disagree and met up the next night to drink a few beers and continue to talk. That is what we need more of....people from the two sides actually talking. If we all stay in our safe red or blue bubbles, this will never change.

Anyway, sorry to ramble; for me, I will probably be gone in 20 years. I just feel bad that this is what we are passing to our kids and grandkids. Hopefully they can be smarter than us and figure out how to make this work.

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

Most other developed nations have flattened the curve. Life is getting back to something close to normal in much of Western Europe and Eastern Asia. Schools are reopening. Sports have resumed.

What those nations share is a strong federal response. They attacked the virus in a unified, top-down manner. Communities were given clear marching orders on how to repel the virus. The public was asked to make shared sacrifices -- masks in public venues, personal hygiene, social distancing -- to protect themselves, their loved ones, and their neighbors. For the most part, the leaders of those nations have seen their approval ratings skyrocket.

In our nation, the president likened Rona to fighting a war, but he has not behaved like a war-time commander-in-chief. He hasn't sent out clear marching orders (such as "wear a damn mask, snowflake") or marshaled every resource a great nation can bring to bear. Instead, he left strategy and tactics to the states. It will go down in history as a failure of leadership on an epic scale.

It also has been a botched opportunity for the president personally. His approval rating on how he has handled the virus is in the toilet. If he were seen as a strong and successful leader in this "war," his approval rating on handling the pandemic would be closer to 80% than 30%. And he would win a second term in a cakewalk.

Blame the liberals and the media and the socialists and whoever you like for dissing the president, but the truth is that he has listened to the wrong people and followed the wrong advice on how to respond to Rona. He has been his own worst enemy.

I somewhat disagree with your position. It’s hard to compare us to individual countries in Europe when in reality you’d have to compare us to all of Europe for a true apples to apples look. And comparing the two, we’ve done far better in about every metric aside from total cases.

With the wack classifying we have occurring in this country, can you really even believe those numbers? In one of the other threads, there is a reporter asking one of the Docs in Orlando about some of the young catching and dying. A 21 year old kid classified as a COVID death, checks notes....motorcycle accident, but tested positive for COVID, so, COVID death.

Back to the comparison of Europe, given the size of this country, I don’t think a one size fits all top down model made sense. How are we to apply NY standards to ND? That’s ludicrous thinking. In effect, Europe handled it at the country level which is pretty much the equivalent of us handling it at the state level.

I agree, Trump should and could have done some better stuff with a unifying direction, but it’s hard to get a true message out when you have the media machine literally twisting every word and directive that comes out to the point of diluting the message.

 

[bornaneer]

let’s not pretend trump isn’t an ******* bully, that’s why so many on the right like his “say it how it is” moxy. And when you act like an ******* people are gonna treat you like one it’s that simple. As I said earlier it goes both ways no one group is responsible for all this hate in America. Long gone are the days of honest debate and discussion, now it’s just name calling and Twitter battles. This all started in 2016 and it’s not going away ever I think.

Trump is indeed an ******* bully....and it will cost him .....he will not be reelected and he has no one to blame but himself. All he needed to do was JSTFU.....but his ego won't let him.
BTY....I do defend him on many fronts.....I have never seen the media go after a President like they have this one.....it's undeniable.

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

Yeah, Trump lost me with his general approach and non qualifications during the primaries. I think the "Right" has done a GREAT job of convincing their base that a vote for Democrats=Socialism. American Politics, even on the Democrat side, are nowhere near socialism. I am in the computer science field and the disregard of science embraced by Trump is also disturbing to me. More disturbing than the possibilities of democratic socialism.

You might want to actually read what the left is championing, it’s not only near Socialism in practice, it’s Marxist lunacy.

 

[Pospecteer]

H

Most other developed nations have flattened the curve. Life is getting back to something close to normal in much of Western Europe and Eastern Asia. Schools are reopening. Sports have resumed.

What those nations share is a strong federal response. They attacked the virus in a unified, top-down manner. Communities were given clear marching orders on how to repel the virus. The public was asked to make shared sacrifices -- masks in public venues, personal hygiene, social distancing -- to protect themselves, their loved ones, and their neighbors. For the most part, the leaders of those nations have seen their approval ratings skyrocket.

In our nation, the president likened Rona to fighting a war, but he has not behaved like a war-time commander-in-chief. He hasn't sent out clear marching orders (such as "wear a damn mask, snowflake") or marshaled every resource a great nation can bring to bear. Instead, he left strategy and tactics to the states. It will go down in history as a failure of leadership on an epic scale.

It also has been a botched opportunity for the president personally. His approval rating on how he has handled the virus is in the toilet. If he were seen as a strong and successful leader in this "war," his approval rating on handling the pandemic would be closer to 80% than 30%. And he would win a second term in a cakewalk.

Blame the liberals and the media and the socialists and whoever you like for dissing the president, but the truth is that he has listened to the wrong people and followed the wrong advice on how to respond to Rona. He has been his own worst enemy.

He listened to liberals...that was only mistake....The country was blindsided...Bush Jr. tried to make America aware...Obama never took it seriously even when SARS and other virus's was more deadly than Covid 19.

 

[Gunny46]

You might want to actually read what the left is championing, it’s not only near Socialism in practice, it’s Marxist lunacy.

You can add a couple more aliases to the list. Eventually everyone will get it narrowed to who the puppet master is.

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

You can add a couple more aliases to the list. Eventually everyone will get it narrowed to who the puppet master is.

Nah, this is a thread that was moved from The Blue Lot. These are long term guys that have been around.

 

[Gunny46]

Nah, this is a thread that was moved from The Blue Lot. These are long term guys that have been around.

Exactly. [winking]

 

[coopwvu08]

You’re high if you think this started in 2016. 2016 is just when the GOP started to fight back. Going back to Bush in about 05-06 is when the left became unhinged and dominated the fight for about a decade. Sure, you could throw in the Clinton Whitewater stuff, or go back the SCOTUS stuff with Bork, but those were isolated fights. The left organized and got serious in 06 on Iraq. We tried to maintain a level of decorum, even through Obama, our prominent leaders were still trying to hold the middle. The TeaParty contributed to what occurred in 16, so we’re not without blame, but no period in history compares to the lengths the left has gone since Trump was elected.

Theres always been a disagreement obviously but 2016 is when the dam broke loose. The fact that a ex reality tv star with a shady past and lots of money could be elected shook up everything. Now literally anyone can be President he broke the glass ceiling, you don’t have to be a politician for 30+ years and go through all the **** to make it to the top. We’ve also never had a president act like Trump, especially with the use of Social Media...NEVER. You can see that as bad or good i guess. I bet if you could take Trumps name off all of his policies more on the left would like em and less on the right would.

He has a following though that’s cult like, and I mean that in a good way I guess. Theyd follow him to their death it seems. People follow him on tour like Phish lol it’s crazy.

 

[WV Jim WV]

In. My guess is that this lasts less than a page before getting moved.

Called it! :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

 

[brandonjags8]

Coop, I unfortunately think you are correct in that the days of honest debate and discussion are over. I remember back in the 80s and really into the 90s, you could lean to one side, have honest debate, not necessarily agree with the other side but still compromise. Those days are over and I blame the gerrymandering of congressional districts for the current climate, and both parties are to blame for that. If I represent a district that is 70% red or 70% blue, why would I ever compromise? If I did that, I am going to lose my job.

The really sad part is that in the grand scheme of life, the sides are rally not that far apart. However, if I am conservative and only watch Fox News, I never get a real understanding of the left and if I am liberal and only watch CNN, I never get a real understanding of the right. Most of us want the same things for our kids and families. It is a shame that this democracy experiment called USA has come to this.

I have been working on an "essential" project in TX and have been traveling back and forth between NC and TX for the past several months. The project site is in the middle of nowhere and I am staying in a hotel about 20 miles away from the site (closest I could find). I was hanging outside one evening having a smoke and drinking a beer and there were two other guys outside and we talked for several hours. They are both conservative and Trump supporters (one is from OK and the other from LA) and I am liberal and a never-Trumper. We still managed to have a civil discussion regarding Covid, abortion, guns, religion, etc., pretty much all the hot button topics, and while we disagreed on pretty much everything, we were still able to have the discussion and perhaps understand the others viewpoints and how they arrived there. No one was angry, we agreed to disagree and met up the next night to drink a few beers and continue to talk. That is what we need more of....people from the two sides actually talking. If we all stay in our safe red or blue bubbles, this will never change.

Anyway, sorry to ramble; for me, I will probably be gone in 20 years. I just feel bad that this is what we are passing to our kids and grandkids. Hopefully they can be smarter than us and figure out how to make this work.

the problem is the media and social media. while "typing" to each other it's harder to understand what that person means and the context can be taken wrong. In person convos are always much better and both opposites can laugh at a few things.

Unfortunately, social media has ruined face-to-face talk and in the process, has ruined the country.

 

[wvu84fan]

the problem is the media and social media. while "typing" to each other it's harder to understand what that person means and the context can be taken wrong. In person convos are always much better and both opposites can laugh at a few things.

Unfortunately, social media has ruined face-to-face talk and in the process, has ruined the country.

great point Brandon. I told my wife around 5 years ago that social media and reality TV would eventually be the downfall of this country. She laughed and said I was being dramatic, but I think we can now see how this has played out.

And regarding the media, yes that has become an issue as well. I realize it is virtually impossible not to inject some bias in reporting, whatever side you are on. But to have the two major cable networks (CNN and FOX) only taking one side of the debate is really bad for America, at least IMO. And both sides are just as bad.

Let's assume Biden wins in November. I will be happy, not because I like Biden, but I dislike Trump so much that I would vote for anyone other than him so we can try to return to some type of civility. But if Biden does win, you can bet that everything will be sunshine on CNN and every bit of reporting on FOX will be that the world is coming to an end. It is just bad for our country. Not sure how to change it.

 

[5150]

great point Brandon. I told my wife around 5 years ago that social media and reality TV would eventually be the downfall of this country. She laughed and said I was being dramatic, but I think we can now see how this has played out.

And regarding the media, yes that has become an issue as well. I realize it is virtually impossible not to inject some bias in reporting, whatever side you are on. But to have the two major cable networks (CNN and FOX) only taking one side of the debate is really bad for America, at least IMO. And both sides are just as bad.

Let's assume Biden wins in November. I will be happy, not because I like Biden, but I dislike Trump so much that I would vote for anyone other than him so we can try to return to some type of civility. But if Biden does win, you can bet that everything will be sunshine on CNN and every bit of reporting on FOX will be that the world is coming to an end. It is just bad for our country. Not sure how to change it.

Trump really has made mistakes with messaging around Covid, and its sad. On the flip side, you do realize Biden is not healthy and his handlers are keeping him from the press so he does not get exposed. He does not do pressers because he is unable to answer the questions. How is he going make decisions about running the country?