Penn st didn't know they had that many fans either until a few years into Carl's tenure
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I was actually making a joke if Bob was helping pick the new coach. Going back to when he made derogatory comments about Derek's wife. Sorry for the confusion.
Willing to bet they sign them to a new multi year deal with a big raise. I was surprised when Tom fired Zadic to hire Morningstar.
If true, that is a terrible condition to have as a wrestler.
So was Zadick… he apparently had no idea they were not going to renew his contract. Must be that good ‘ol Cold War secrecy.
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You missed the point. Laughing, I'm laughing because the dreaded Covid pandemic vaccine is $224 for those that can least afford it. Guess they aren't very concerned about the pandemic anymore. Lol
That’s certainly how it was when I was there, except for day before competition. I made several long posts about this a couple years ago on the old board. But it’s been quite a while since I was there. I hope they’ve drastically changed their training model since then considering how play wrestling and such has worked wonders for Penn State.
The person I got the info from was within the last 10 years and that’s all I will say about them
I just dont know how he could after a 5+ loss season including losses to the clowns & rodents. If his stubbornness is really that bad then maybe everyone else is right & its time to move on because mstar & telford cant develop photos
This makes perfect sense. That would explain the issues.
Dreading practice is not a good thing.
I was thinking the same thing after reading those posts. And this would be a reason why just bringing in new assistants wouldn’t cure what ills us, imo.
Bizarre thing is we have many wrestlers gassing. How do the 2 go hand in hand? Is it just burnout?
No f*n? Maybe there is something to that f*n state system.
Brands fired Zadick to hire Star, wow! I was in my earning years and not paying attention.
What a stupid move that was.
Do the Brands favor their All-Americans from their early championship years?
M* and Dan Dennis come to mind (sure there was Metcalf). Maybe the Brands need witnesses to testify to the success of their system back then. Meanwhile Metcalf thought some new approaches were warranted.
Fading and gassing are often more mental at the D1 level these days, as opposed to actually being out of shape. Can be burnout. Can also be feeling the pressure the culture creates. Can also be mental “tightness” due to the absence of a more free, or loose, or creative, or dare I say fun mentality and culture.
Of course, over-training can also wear the body down over time.
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IMO they favor yes-men who never rock the boat. But, they’ll never say that. Instead, they’ll call it favoring trust and loyalty.
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He's talking about Mike Zadick, not Bill. And I'm pretty sure there were other factors besides hiring M*. That said, it was a shocker at the time.
I don't want to be that guy, but I really believe some, if not most, of the gassing we've seen this year was illness, not gassing.
Zadick thought hunting trips were more important then recruiting trips.
Zadick has been fired more then once.
Zadick has been fired more then once.
THe thing that stands out to me is the incredible salary difference between Brands and Bobby. One guy making 12x times another guy on the same staff? The blame falls on the guy being paid the big money for results. You aren't going to hire a guy to replace BT for that salary. An Uber driver would have to take a pay cut.
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"One guy making 12x times another guy on the same staff?"
This is not accurate--at last year's plunge, I was told by a coach that BT is paid from the HWC, and a lot. The same coach said a couple of years ago, the NCAA allowed "volunteer" coaches to be paid by the school--it was a great thing for BT-- he still got his pay from HWC, now gets a salary from the University with all the benefits.
This is not accurate--at last year's plunge, I was told by a coach that BT is paid from the HWC, and a lot. The same coach said a couple of years ago, the NCAA allowed "volunteer" coaches to be paid by the school--it was a great thing for BT-- he still got his pay from HWC, now gets a salary from the University with all the benefits.
True. But there is X amount of recruiting periods, maybe some of them didn't coincide with some hunting seasons?
No idea why he was let go, but he was so.......old news I guess.Good thing the HWC is paying a U of I coach instead of you know….getting some wrestlers to build the club 
"Good thing the HWC is paying a U of I coach instead of you know….getting some wrestlers to build the club "
How HWC spends its money is a whole other subject-- but its sounds like Bobby Telford is being taken care of .
"How HWC spends its money is a whole other subject-- but its sounds like Bobby Telford is being taken care of .
We had a small little practice room for one of our little clubs. During the Covid shutdown, that place had quite a few D1 guys using it to practice. Some NCAA finalists, and champs from several different programs. It was interesting to hear the different mentalities each program had. You could see it in the wrestling for sure.