Slightly OT: Hurley Whining Some More.

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What an unbelievable 180 degree turnaround my opinion has made on this jerk.

I went from desperately wanting him as our next coach to realizing he would have been a terrible fit, understanding that we got exactly who we needed and feeling the relief of dodging an actual bullet.

Exactly right; he was my first choice as well, but damn......


UK got their man, I firmly believe that. Coach Pope is exactly what we needed and I see great things ahead for our program with him at the helm. True class dude who actually loves Kentucky.
 

Tayshaun4Three

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We very nearly traded our washed up Calipari for the next Calipari. That reads exactly like something Calipari would say. Underperforms, takes his ball and goes home whining as if every other team didn’t face the same “disadvantage”.
Hurley runs laps around Cal as an in-game coach though. Attitude wise, I actually think Hurley is worse than Cal
 

LineSkiCat14

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I still don't really know why everyone loves these tournaments. IMO, it is too many games too quickly. More chance for bodies to break down, and if your team isn't playing well (or gassed, or upset from a big loss) then you could be in for something like Uconn just had, which is 3 in a row. I know that's not likely, but I also believe Uconn would almost for sure win one of those if they spaced them out.

Now maybe if this was just a championship series like the CC is, where you play a couple of set games before going home, sure. And cool for the fans I guess, but I don't see these tournaments actually helping the teams at all. Too chaotic and up for grabs for my liking. (Which yes I understand the NCAAT is similarly chaotic.)
 
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Tayshaun4Three

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I still don't really know why everyone loves these tournaments. IMO, it is too many games too quickly. More chance for bodies to break down, and if your team isn't playing well (or gassed, or upset from a big loss) then you could be in for something like Uconn just had, which is 3 in a row. I know that's not likely, but I also believe Uconn would almost for sure win one of those if they spaced them out.

Now maybe if this was just a championship series like the CC is, where you play a couple of set games before going home, sure. And cool for the fans I guess, but I don't see these tournaments actually helping the teams at all. Too chaotic and up for grabs for my liking. (Which yes I understand the NCAAT is similarly chaotic.)
…or UConn isn’t as good. The tape doesn’t lie, they can’t guard and I know all the Samson Johnson stats from a year ago. As the feature guy in the middle this year, exposed. If you don’t remind yourself this is a program that won back to back, there is no way anyone would feel threatened by them. They suck.
 

*Fox2Monk*

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Was whining and complaining about the Maui Invitational.

Man, imagine if we landed him and this is how his tenure started here.

What a freaking loser.


I think I’ll become coach K and never schedule another good team away from home.
 
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*Fox2Monk*

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I still don't really know why everyone loves these tournaments. IMO, it is too many games too quickly. More chance for bodies to break down, and if your team isn't playing well (or gassed, or upset from a big loss) then you could be in for something like Uconn just had, which is 3 in a row. I know that's not likely, but I also believe Uconn would almost for sure win one of those if they spaced them out.

Now maybe if this was just a championship series like the CC is, where you play a couple of set games before going home, sure. And cool for the fans I guess, but I don't see these tournaments actually helping the teams at all. Too chaotic and up for grabs for my liking. (Which yes I understand the NCAAT is similarly chaotic.)
Everyone faces the same obstacles, that is a cowards way out. Yeah it suck’s to lose stuff like that but you can get over it and it is extremely fun when you win. I think it prepares for tournament games later on.
 

LineSkiCat14

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…or UConn isn’t as good. The tape doesn’t lie, they can’t guard and I know all the Samson Johnson stats from a year ago. As the feature guy in the middle this year, exposed. If you don’t remind yourself this is a program that won back to back, there is no way anyone would feel threatened by them. They suck.

Everyone faces the same obstacles, that is a cowards way out. Yeah it suck’s to lose stuff like that but you can get over it and it is extremely fun when you win. I think it prepares for tournament games later on.

Yeah i totally get that I'm gonna be on an island here. And I don't think Hurley should make these comments or excuses. But i still look at this and think, purely from a perspective of trying to win in March, this tournament isn't offering us anything. If anything it can only hurt.

The one thing it might help with is the conference tournaments because those ARE played back to back days, so I'll give it that. But this kind of goes with my opinion of not trying to have the hardest schedule. I want my teams in all sports doing whatever it takes to win the title. I want them put in the best position to do that. And I don't think these types of tournaments do that. And for an east coast team, to fly back and be ready for the next game, also not going to be easy, whether it's Uconn or Maine or Miami.
 

UKWildcats1987

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Yeah i totally get that I'm gonna be on an island here. And I don't think Hurley should make these comments or excuses. But i still look at this and think, purely from a perspective of trying to win in March, this tournament isn't offering us anything. If anything it can only hurt.

The one thing it might help with is the conference tournaments because those ARE played back to back days, so I'll give it that. But this kind of goes with my opinion of not trying to have the hardest schedule. I want my teams in all sports doing whatever it takes to win the title. I want them put in the best position to do that. And I don't think these types of tournaments do that. And for an east coast team, to fly back and be ready for the next game, also not going to be easy, whether it's Uconn or Maine or Miami.

I'd prefer to play in an ooc tourney where they space the games out to every other day like n the ncaa tournament.
 
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LineSkiCat14

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I'd prefer to play in an ooc tourney where they space the games out to every other day like n the ncaa tournament.

Exactly. Give one day off. Day 1, day 3, and day 5. Playing back to backs, idk, not a fan of it for a game like basketball.
 

Tayshaun4Three

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Had he won it he would've been raving what a great experience it was for his team. 🙄
That’s it right there. The three games in three days crap is a BS excuse. Did Hurley agree to the tournament thinking the games were several days apart? No! Whiny, pathetic and revealing.
 

pauled#1

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Cal knew freshman teams could leave Maui with 2-3 losses! He wanted nothing to do with it. Hurley didn’t even face the ranked teams in Maui, Auburn and ISU would have murderfied UConn!
 
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Had he won it he would've been raving what a great experience it was for his team. 🙄
Not defending him with this but wouldn't that make a lot of sense. Our experiences are often defined by whether they are successful or not. Of course they would have been happy if they had won.
 
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ukcatz12

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Also his philosophy is identical to Cals on that. It’s actually crazy how similar they are in attitude and personality. Would’ve been a bad fit here.
They're both ******* yankees (and I say that as an ******* yankee). Both of their schticks work fine when they're winning big, but grate on people and get annoying when they aren't. Hurley seems to be more explosive with his anger during games, but they're definitely both cut from the same cloth.
 

ukjenning44

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All of college basketball is going to be pulling against this man in March! I would love to see him lose first round. Does that mean he wouldn’t play in the NCAAT again?
 

ukcatz12

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I still don't really know why everyone loves these tournaments. IMO, it is too many games too quickly. More chance for bodies to break down, and if your team isn't playing well (or gassed, or upset from a big loss) then you could be in for something like Uconn just had, which is 3 in a row. I know that's not likely, but I also believe Uconn would almost for sure win one of those if they spaced them out.

Now maybe if this was just a championship series like the CC is, where you play a couple of set games before going home, sure. And cool for the fans I guess, but I don't see these tournaments actually helping the teams at all. Too chaotic and up for grabs for my liking. (Which yes I understand the NCAAT is similarly chaotic.)
I love Maui because it's a unique event. I know Chaminade doesn't play every year now, but having big teams travel to Maui to play a tournament with a local DII team is just cool. I don't really care about any of the other ones. Something like the Bad Boy Mowers Battle 4 Atlantis that takes place in a ballroom or wherever they play doesn't pique my interest. But Maui does.
 
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LineSkiCat14

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I love Maui because it's a unique event. I know Chaminade doesn't play every year now, but having big teams travel to Maui to play a tournament with a local DII team is just cool. I don't really care about any of the other ones. Something like the Bad Boy Mowers Battle 4 Atlantis that takes place in a ballroom or wherever they play doesn't pique my interest. But Maui does.

Didn't the Atlantic one also have issues with the court sweating or some ****? I know for UKs summer trip a few years back, the gym floor also had dead spots and was uneven. I do get why these are fun trips, especially for the fans who are able to attend.
 

ukcatz12

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Didn't the Atlantic one also have issues with the court sweating or some ****? I know for UKs summer trip a few years back, the gym floor also had dead spots and was uneven. I do get why these are fun trips, especially for the fans who are able to attend.
Yeah I think so. That tournament always kind of seemed like amateur hour to me, like they were trying to cheaply recreate the "tropical tournament during the cold holiday season" vibe Maui has.
 
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RunninRichie

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What an unbelievable 180 degree turnaround my opinion has made on this jerk.

I went from desperately wanting him as our next coach to realizing he would have been a terrible fit, understanding that we got exactly who we needed and feeling the relief of dodging an actual bullet.
Right here with you. This guy is Uconn's fanbase to a T. Entitled, whiny, and a blowhard. Similar to how IU's fanbase took the persona of Bob Knight. Yeesh.
 
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hmt5000

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If you would have told me three months ago that I'd be thrilled to have Pope and thrilled to not have Hurley I'd have thought you were on dope.... Yet here we are.