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Hypothetically I don't think they would've been a serious threat to Murphy at the top, not with all that Dogs are bringing back, due the Cats being too one dimensional offensively. In reality Murphy will have their own major question next season with the loss of Murray in the backfield (his loss could seriously effect what will otherwise be a very loaded team) but since were talking in hypotheticals, and each team having all their guys, Smith and Crowder are still playing for Murphy and therefore the backfield question is much less pertinent. I do think the 'Cats would've been a surefire top 3 team though and a serious contender for 2nd.

As far as the 2022 team being Andrews best in decades, I couldn't say but I do know they should be a very tough out if they stay together. And they will have another skill weapon in that age group on varsity with Charles that will be nice for them. With that said they will likely have the same question mark about being too one dimensional offensively that the 2020 team would've had.

The young man you mentioned will be ineligible due to age I believe 2022. Varsity is a different animal than JV. This Murphy group of freshman will be much improved in 3 years and also has a solid ground coming behind them.
 

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The young man you mentioned will be ineligible due to age I believe 2022. Varsity is a different animal than JV. This Murphy group of freshman will be much improved in 3 years and also has a solid ground coming behind them
I knew he had aged out of JV but didn't know he would be ineligible in 2022. So he's already 16 then and must have been before the school year started?

Understand where you're coming from about current class improving, some of their best athletes haven't been playing football very long, so a lot of room to grow. They will be adding Johnson on varsity too.

A legit problem with this freshman class is that they're missing speed at the skill spots that Murphy's accustomed to and that's unlikely to change unless somebody transfers in or some speedy kid roaming the halls decides to play. Also this freshman class isn't nearly as strong up front as the last few classes, sucks they lost two of their starting lineman to transfers.

The areas this freshman class is weaker will not be supplemented by the current 8th grade class either. It appears the 6th and 7th grade group coming up has some solid talent, but this year's 8th grade class seems to be the leanest class in a long time from what I know and that I've heard.
 
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I cant wait for Rville vs Andrews next year.
Andrews roughed us up on jvs that year. I told everybody that we would beat Andrews when seniors but nobody believe me. I say we win. We return most line QB, Hooper, and Williams will likely contribute as a freshman.
 

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I cant wait for Rville vs Andrews next year.
Andrews roughed us up on jvs that year. I told everybody that we would beat Andrews when seniors but nobody believe me. I say we win. We return most line QB, Hooper, and Williams will likely contribute as a freshman.

You're not paying attention BK. That's apples to oranges, not the same Andrews group because of losing kids. Last, what makes you so certain Williams is playing football next year?
 
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I cant wait for Rville vs Andrews next year. Andrews roughed us up on jvs that year. I told everybody that we would beat Andrews when seniors but nobody believe me. I say we win. We return most line QB, Hooper, and Williams will likely contribute as a freshman.
Not the same Andrews team from JV, lost a lot of talent since then to transfer and kids quitting. I think most people agreed at the time that Andrews wouldnt beat Robbinsville on varsity with one class. But turns out Andrews current freshman class is really good too.

We'll never truly know what would've happened but I think they would've been a tough out for anyone next year and definitely feel they would've finished top 3 next season had their current junior class stayed intact.
 
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Thats part of it. Thats life.
Most ppl said andrews would win but I considered kids not playing. Im considering that Williams might not play but I think its a really good chance that he does. So i will look at this game without Williams. I also think Andrews will lose a couple of starters just because it seems to be the way.
 

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You need to read PantherPit's comments on the other thread before you say things haven't been said.
I'd venture to guess the only reason GreyGod went there was because of all the talk over in Robbinsville last week and the hyping up on here by one of your own, which like I said in the other thread I have no problem with. But if you're going to talk the talk you better walk the walk and the Jackets certainly did none of that tonight.

So go ahead and "defend" your team but nothing would've been said tonight had they kept quiet or backed up the chitter chatter and they did neither.
Ok guys I apologize! I didn’t realize me razzing greygod a little would rattle the cage of all bulldog country! You know me well enough that I never put negative comments about teams on here nor do I in public (adult posters are a different story). I respect Murphy’s program always have doesn’t mean I like them. I take the saying of Ric Flair to heart “to be the man you have to beat the man” that is where we are trying to get to. We have young talent that we are excited about. Our tailback #1 on JV will be good this is his 1st playing football and he is in the 8th grade so plenty of time for him to develop. JV QB will only get better as he learns to read and make the right decisions. Many more that can be good players. Have a great day gentlemen!
 

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Williams is playing...opponents keep hoping he doesn't.
Not sure that they are hoping he doesn’t, I just think they are saying he has a great future in wrestling. To stay at the level he needs to be at to get the attention and keep the attention of the big schools he will have to travel year round. Which he does already but the older he gets he might focus solely on wrestling. Who could blame him?
 

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Ok guys I apologize! I didn’t realize me razzing greygod a little would rattle the cage of all bulldog country! You know me well enough that I never put negative comments about teams on here nor do I in public (adult posters are a different story). I respect Murphy’s program always have doesn’t mean I like them. I take the saying of Ric Flair to heart “to be the man you have to beat the man” that is where we are trying to get to. We have young talent that we are excited about. Our tailback #1 on JV will be good this is his 1st playing football and he is in the 8th grade so plenty of time for him to develop. JV QB will only get better as he learns to read and make the right decisions. Many more that can be good players. Have a great day gentlemen!
No worries train and nothing wrong with being excited about your kids. I haven't seen the Jackets yet but had heard A. Brown was playing football this year, is he the #1 you're referring to? his dad is a cousin of mine. I think he could have a bright future in football once he learns the game.
 
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No worries train and nothing wrong with being excited about your kids. I haven't seen the Jackets yet but had heard A. Brown was playing football this year, is he the #1 you're referring to? his dad is a cousin of mine. I think he could have a bright future in football once he learns the game.
Yes that is Asher. He is a great kid and athlete. He gets better every week.
 

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Ok guys I apologize! I didn’t realize me razzing greygod a little would rattle the cage of all bulldog country! You know me well enough that I never put negative comments about teams on here nor do I in public (adult posters are a different story). I respect Murphy’s program always have doesn’t mean I like them. I take the saying of Ric Flair to heart “to be the man you have to beat the man” that is where we are trying to get to. We have young talent that we are excited about. Our tailback #1 on JV will be good this is his 1st playing football and he is in the 8th grade so plenty of time for him to develop. JV QB will only get better as he learns to read and make the right decisions. Many more that can be good players. Have a great day gentlemen!
I liked what I seen from Hayesville. #1 is a good looking athlete as well as the Qb. Skill players looked good and will only get better. I foresee a very competitive conference in years to come. Cherokee & Rosman need improvement but overall the conference should be strong and more enjoyable to watch
 

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Andrews will return around 80% of this years team next season, while adding a large group of sophmores, several that will make an impact for us. I don't honestly know how it pans out, but these two groups (juniors/freshman now, seniors/sophmores next year) will be the largest and most talented group as a whole that Andrews has put on the field at one time in many decades. Whether that makes a difference or not is too early to tell. Next year, 2020 with these two groups together will be Andrews best and maybe only shot in many moons to make a run. 2020 will be the year to do it, not 2021 or 2022. We will not lose any key players next year, and will probably field in the middle 30's. Our line will be the biggest question mark as we will have skill players out the wazoo. Losing Christianson and Rattler will not impact us next season as much, if any at all, as it did this season. And aside from those two players lost to transfer, this is the exact same team that challenged Murphy for the JV championship two years ago. I understand that at this point that doesn't mean much. But Andrews does in fact have the potential to still compete for one of the top spots next year. And for the record, I am not saying that any of what I've posted gets us to that place, but people have to understand that as far as I can remember, Andrews has typically had a good class come through here and there every couple of years, of boys that are talented and played together, but it is usually only one class, and the other numbers and talent pool above or below them are shallow. This is the first time I can remember where we have had two talented groups come through at the same time. For Andrews, that is an extremely rare occurrence. I guess we will see if I am wrong or right. Lord knows it won't be the first time I've ever been wrong.
I genuinely hope the Cats have a big year next season, your fanbase and community deserves that. I think the line play is a huge concern though without Christenson, Rattler (or O'Dell) and then Stillwell graduating on top of that. Murphy and Robbinsville will bring back most of their lines next season and I think the 'Cats will really struggle to match them there without those kids. Also for some reason I thought Ellis was on the 2017 JV team, I guess I'm misremembering.
 

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I liked what I seen from Hayesville. #1 is a good looking athlete as well as the Qb. Skill players looked good and will only get better. I foresee a very competitive conference in years to come. Cherokee & Rosman need improvement but overall the conference should be strong and more enjoyable to watch
The fact that they have come into a new staff and a new offense (to most of them anyway) and are excited about football is what excites me. I know it didn’t show last night but they are getting better. We just have to improve on tackling! Grit and testicular fortitude are things you can’t coach. Hopefully it will come!
 

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I genuinely hope the Cats have a big year next season, your fanbase and community deserves that. I think the line play is a huge concern though without Christenson, Rattler (or O'Dell) and then Stillwell graduating on top of that. Murphy and Robbinsville will bring back most of their lines next season and I think the 'Cats will really struggle to match them there without those kids. Also for some reason I thought Ellis was on the 2017 JV team, I guess I'm misremembering.
Ellis did play his Freshman year (2017).
 
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Ellis was, you are correct, thanks. Would love for him to come back out next year, but it is what it is.
I know how you feel, Murphy has two skill kids in that grade that would be great to have, but looks unlikely they will play again. Didn't hurt last year, definitely hurts some this year and could hurt a lot next year, but like you said it is what it is.
 
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Well in your defense, greygod was the one that put the asinine comment on here earlier saying "stop Martin, stop Andrews", so I don't believe he has any moral high ground to get onto anyone else about flapping their gums.
I'm interested to hear why that's asinine. They can't pass. Weaver is ok, but he won't win you a conference championship. My point is that Martin is no worse than the second best player in JV this year. If he is shut down, who will beat you?
 

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It's asinine because you are standing behind a comment that is based on a lack of knowledge of what you are speaking of. You made the comment after a Hayesville poster that if they stop Martin they stop Andrews. And before I go any further, I want to say that Hayesville has both talent and potential, and has every right to be excited. With that said, the proof is in the pudding, and the fact is, that when Martin doesn't have the ball, Weaver is equally deadly when he crosses the line of scrimmage, and the last three games, plus the scrimmage is evidence of that. Anyone that watched the game last night could see this, and some even made that point on here during the updates. So you feel free to stand behind your comment, but that doesn't make it any less ignorant or asinine.
Weaver runs hard and breaks tackles. He and Martin complement each other. I just wonder how the game would have turned out if Gillis and Lunsford (2 best JV players from last year) hadn’t been moved up to varsity as freshmen.
 
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It's asinine because you are standing behind a comment that is based on a lack of knowledge of what you are speaking of. You made the comment after a Hayesville poster that if they stop Martin they stop Andrews. And before I go any further, I want to say that Hayesville has both talent and potential, and has every right to be excited. With that said, the proof is in the pudding, and the fact is, that when Martin doesn't have the ball, Weaver is equally deadly when he crosses the line of scrimmage, and the last three games, plus the scrimmage is evidence of that. Anyone that watched the game last night could see this, and some even made that point on here during the updates. So you feel free to stand behind your comment, but that doesn't make it any less ignorant or asinine.
If you think Weaver is equal to Martin, you are ignorant and asinine. I think you are ridiculous to get your panties in a wad over what was essentially a complement to your star player. But carry on. I don't give one pile of steaming crap if you agree or not. See you a week from tonight.
 

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Weaver runs hard and breaks tackles. He and Martin complement each other. I just wonder how the game would have turned out if Gillis and Lunsford (2 best JV players from last year) hadn’t been moved up to varsity as freshmen.
With those two you would be in the conversation for a conference championship.
 
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Andrews will return around 80% of this years team next season, while adding a large group of sophmores, several that will make an impact for us. I don't honestly know how it pans out, but these two groups (juniors/freshman now, seniors/sophmores next year) will be the largest and most talented group as a whole that Andrews has put on the field at one time in many decades. Whether that makes a difference or not is too early to tell. Next year, 2020 with these two groups together will be Andrews best and maybe only shot in many moons to make a run. 2020 will be the year to do it, not 2021 or 2022. We will not lose any key players next year, and will probably field in the middle 30's. Our line will be the biggest question mark as we will have skill players out the wazoo. Losing Christianson and Rattler will not impact us next season as much, if any at all, as it did this season. And aside from those two players lost to transfer, this is the exact same team that challenged Murphy for the JV championship two years ago. I understand that at this point that doesn't mean much. But Andrews does in fact have the potential to still compete for one of the top spots next year. And for the record, I am not saying that any of what I've posted gets us to that place, but people have to understand that as far as I can remember, Andrews has typically had a good class come through here and there every couple of years, of boys that are talented and played together, but it is usually only one class, and the other numbers and talent pool above or below them are shallow. This is the first time I can remember where we have had two talented groups come through at the same time. For Andrews, that is an extremely rare occurrence. I guess we will see if I am wrong or right. Lord knows it won't be the first time I've ever been wrong.
Spot on !!
 
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Yes that is Asher. He is a great kid and athlete. He gets better every week.
Wow I didn't realize Asher is playing football. I'll have to call big AB to hear about this. All I've seen on fb the last few months has been his basketball camps and evaluations.
 
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Andrew's had as much talent as anybody in the conference about 4 years ago...imo they've needed to change the culture, work habits, and leadership for years. They may or may not have things in better shape now...we'll see. I dont think they've beaten any of the big 3 (murphy, rville, swain) in varsity in over 20 years.