So are we just one year away?

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Feels like we are always one year away; but may now be further.

Unfortunately, I think this was our year, so we'll be back next year to our 5/6 win rebuilding year since we lose most of defense and still have no qb. On a positive, I think we'll get back up to 7 or maybe even 8 wins within a couple few more years and dominate the middle of the pack in the Big 12 again! Go Mountaineers!!!
 

Samuel S

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We are more than a year way from being really good. the question is can we be better right away with a better coach or will it cause a regression in the short term.

Bear in mind Holgorsen always loses very winnable games:

Syracuse and 7-6 Louisville in 2011.

TCU, TTU, OSU and Syracuse again in 2012

Maryland, TTU, Kansas and ISU in 2013

Texas, KSU and A&M in 2014

OSU and KSU this season.

If we had won even 7 of those 15 games, he would not be in this predicament. A coach who does better in those types of games could do a good bit more with similar talent, and could improve us some right away.

I am also implicitly labeling a lot of games unlikely wins that wouldn't have been so unlikely for better teams. A better coach could also do more to improve the program than just not lose such a high percentage of relatively even matchups. He could in fact, in much less than 5 years, make us better.

What's the risk of trying to be better?
 

TexasforevEER

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We are a thousand miles from nowhere. But, let me tell you this. I ain't kicking in a single buck to bring in a new high dollar coach. I would recommend that we keep Dana but cut his pay to $60,000 a year..................instead of $60,000 a week. Heck, he would still be making double what most hard working folks make on their real world jobs. A football coaches job ain't even 'real' world!
 
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BCSE1951

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We are miles and miles from nowhere. But, let me tell you this. I ain't kicking in a single buck to bring in a new high dollar coach. I would recommend that we keep Dana but cut his pay to $60,000 a year..................instead of $60,000 a week. Heck, he would still be making double what most hard working folks make on their real world jobs. A football coaches job ain't even 'real' world!
I don't know about others, but i have to answer for every day at work.
if i make a mistake, i better not make the same mistake again. or there is others that will take my job. and i am sure not paid the same as Dana.
and he makes mistakes that, even me, would not do. howard is not a QB
and never will be, it is just his limits. if i can see that, couldn't someone
paid millions see that. and if i kick to a guy and he makes a great play,
i will not kick to him, again.
 

VaultHunter

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WVU was a big time quarterback away from a great season this year. Unfortunately that is on Holgorsen. If he stays the Quarterback situation has to do a complete 180 next year or he will be gone.
 

Samuel S

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We were more than a big-time QB from beating OU, Baylor or TCU. We lost by 20, 24 and 30, and gave up 146 points.

OSU an KSU we should have beat even with a bad QB, but 9-3 is not "great."

9-3 is above average and I, and I think most people, would be satisfied if 8-4 and 9-3 were the norm and we finished worse than that only about as often as we finish better than that, but we are a long way from great in every aspect of football.

We have one very good, but not great, RB. On defense, I'd say Dillon and Kwiatkowski were very good this year. I don't think any of the rest would even be considered "very" good and it's a big stretch to say we are even good across the board.
 

WVU_Dave

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Howard is night a championship QB, but much like the Ravens winning with Dilfer; good coaching and game planning can overcome. In this case we lacked that facet.
 

Rootmaster

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LOL. Howard is the best that Coach Clueless has to offer at OB. WVU's football problems start and end with the HC.