So how did I do? Preseason Chicagoland Top 30 and Final 30

[Anon1754760634]

Preseason Chicagoland Top 30 (released on August 1, 2016)

1. Loyola
2. Glenbard West
3. H-F
4. Glenbard North
5. LW East
6. Mount Carmel
7. Palatine
8. Brother Rice
9. Phillips
10. Marist
11. Montini Catholic
12. Stevenson
13. Waubonsie Valley
14. Prairie Ridge
15. Bolingbrook
16. Hins Central
17. Neuqua Valley
18. Cary-Grove
19. Nazareth
20. OPRF
21. Batavia
22. Maine South
23. Libertyville
24. Barrington
25. Crete-Monee
26. Simeon
27. St. Charles North
28. St Rita
29. St. Laurence
30. Lyons

Final 2016 Chicagoland Top 30

1. Maine South (1) (11-3)- Easily one of the best post-season runs we've seen in awhile. The offense was solid all season and the defense improved weekly.

2. Loyola Academy (5) (13-1)- Played pretty darn well for almost two straight years. Loyola will simply reload.

3. Prairie Ridge (3) (14-0)- The Wolves offense puts up nearly 500 yards rushing and advance to the 6A state title game beating DeKalb 54-35 to advance.

4. Glenbard West (2) (10-3)- Season Completed.

5. Palatine (4) (12-1)- Season Completed.

6. Plainfield North (9) (11-3)- The Tigers had a historical school run in 2016. Also led the Southwest Prairie strongest post-season push in conference history.

7. Fenwick (6) (11-2)- Season Completed.

8. Lincoln-Way East(7) (9-3)- Season completed.

9. Homewood-Flossmoor (8) (10-1)- Season completed.

10. Glenbard North (10) (8-3)-Season completed.

11. Immaculate Conception (13) (14-0)- No question the Knights showed they belonged with the big boys, How nog you ask? I say they could have completed well in 6A.

12. Benet Academy (11) (10-3)- Season Completed.

13. DeKalb (12) (10-3)- Season Completed.

14. Cary-Grove (16) (10-2)- Season completed.

15. St. Charles East (17) (11-1)- Season completed.

16. Lyons Township (18) (8-3)- Season completed.

17. Bradley (19) (10-1)- Season completed.

18. New Trier (20) (8-3)- Season completed

19. Huntley (21) (8-4)- Season completed.

20. Vernon Hills (NR) (10-4)- Showed nothing but guts and battled hard against Peoria in a wild Class 5A state title game.

21. Johnsburg (NR) (13-1)- The Skyhawks also showed well despite the Class 4A state title game lost to Rochester.

22. Phillips (14) (11-2)- Season Completed.

23. St. Laurence (15) (9-4)- Season Completed.

24. Fremd (24) (7-4)- Season completed.

25. Waubonsie Valley (25) (6-5)- Season completed.

26. Lemont (26) (11-1)- Season completed.

27. Rolling Meadows (27) (11-1)- Season completed.

28. Barrington (28) (9-2)- Season completed.

29. Neuqua Valley (8-2) (29)- Season completed.

30. Naperville North (8-2) (30)- Season completed.

Whiffed on....

Mount Carmel- EVERYONE who does weekly Chicagoland polls had the Caravan ranked high...because they sure looked like a team.

Montini- See above. Had some early issues and just never seemed to hit that high level expected at Montini year in and year out.

Bolingbrook- ugh. Defense was pretty salty again and the offense not so much.

Nazareth Academy- much like MC and Montini I just didn't see this one coming....

St. Rita- was basically a coin flip between the Mustangs and Providence getting the last spot..figured one of the two would be a decent bet. At least Rita made the state playoff field so...

 

[DeanOfSelection]

I actually thought Rita had a decent year. Beating MC PC and losing to StL on that tipped past-which I saw live after BR Montini game. Had RA beat gave it away. Still 5-4 I didn't think that would happen.

 

[USD24]

Biggest misses......Fenwick and Plainfield. Not ranked to start the season and ended up 2 and 2a in 7A

 

[pjjp]

Bolingbrook- ugh. Defense was pretty salty again and the offense not so much.

Since the year is complete, I'll comment on this. I guess the new OC was not the savior that some thought. Although, he did tear up a 1-8 JCA defense in 7 on 7's with the Brook's third string.

 

[Anon1754760634]

Biggest misses......Fenwick and Plainfield. Not ranked to start the season and ended up 2 and 2a in 7A

Liked the returning numbers and talent for Friars but yeah whiff. Plain N? Picked them third in the conference and finished third...a conference that has been brutally bad in the post-season minus Oswego and a North team that didn't win a state playoff game till 2016 so...

 

[jwarigaku]

Edgy and PJJP,

Since I was watching with great interest this season how things would progress at DaBrook I will respectfully disagree with you about the defense.

DaBrook's offense was not the issue based on the games played this year.

Defense gave up 2 4th qtr double digit leads and one 4th quarter 8 point lead.

No to mention the stud running back did not play again from week 4 on.

Since the year is complete, I'll comment on this. I guess the new OC was not the savior that some thought. Although, he did tear up a 1-8 JCA defense in 7 on 7's with the Brook's third string.

 

[mchsalumni]

I tried to tell you about Montini.

 

[USD24]

Edgy and PJJP,

Since I was watching with great interest this season how things would progress at DaBrook I will respectfully disagree with you about the defense.

DaBrook's offense was not the issue based on the games played this year.

Defense gave up 2 4th qtr double digit leads and one 4th quarter 8 point lead.

No to mention the stud running back did not play again from week 4 on.

I would disagree that the offense wasn't the issue. Take away the game against a winless Stagg team and the Bolingbrook offense averaged a paltry 20 pts per game. Not exactly the offensive juggernaut we were told to expect.

 

[jwarigaku]

Really?

What I saw by rankings and points probably hardest schedule or close to it in the state. That could explain the "Low" offensive output a bit. So how was JCA's offensive output?

Final ranking
#4 GBW
#8 LWE
#9 HF
#17 BRADLEY

3 top 10 teams and 7 of 9 teams played in the playoffs. Next year is a new slate with one year in the system. Let's see what happens?

I would disagree that the offense wasn't the issue. Take away the game against a winless Stagg team and the Bolingbrook offense averaged a paltry 20 pts per game. Not exactly the offensive juggernaut we were told to expect.

 

[pjjp]

Really?

What I saw by rankings and points probably hardest schedule or close to it in the state. That could explain the "Low" offensive output a bit. So how was JCA's offensive output?

Final ranking
#4 GBW
#8 LWE
#9 HF
#17 BRADLEY

Poor, but what does that have to do with the Bolingbrook OC and offense?

 

[jwarigaku]

I give you facts you come back with salt. I expect this from you I guess.

Poor, but what does that have to do with the Bolingbrook OC?

 

[redmen85]

Coach Weis didn't exactly light it up.
Tough schedule indeed. Nothing new.
Certainly not a lack of athletes.

 

[USD24]

Really?

What I saw by rankings and points probably hardest schedule or close to it in the state. That could explain the "Low" offensive output a bit. So how was JCA's offensive output?

Final ranking
#4 GBW
#8 LWE
#9 HF
#17 BRADLEY

3 top 10 teams and 7 of 9 teams played in the playoffs. Next year is a new slate with one year in the system. Let's see what happens?

Ill buy that. Just wonder if the Brook faithful are satisfied with the offense last year

Just out of curiosity, what does JCA's offensive output have to do with Bolingbrook and their offense? You just can't resist, can you? So its ok for your guy to have a bad offensive year, but JCA has its first down year in the last 60 years, and you feel the need to point it out in a topic that has nothing to do with JCA.

I guess it's about what I would expect from you.

 

[jwarigaku]

You JCA guys are so confident why don't you schedule DaBrook for a non conference the next 2 years?

Coach Weis didn't exactly light it up.
Tough schedule indeed. Nothing new.
Certainly not a lack of athletes.

 

[redmen85]

Sorry, I am a long way from a JCA guy.
Although I do recall his most unprofessional departure from JCA.

 

[pjjp]

You JCA guys are so confident why don't you schedule DaBrook for a non conference the next 2 years?

Who said we "JCA guys" are confident? Once again, as I and USD have pointed out, JCA has nothing to do with the Brook's offensive output this year.

 

[jwarigaku]

I doubt DaBrook OC is happy with the offensive output this season!

It's not JCA that I have an issue with. It's a few of you guys that want to always point out the Past. Your like the ND fans that keep saying it's gonna be great soon. It's not getting better it's getting worse.

Ill buy that. Just wonder if the Brook faithful are satisfied with the offense last year

Just out of curiosity, what does JCA's offensive output have to do with Bolingbrook and their offense? You just can't resist, can you? So its ok for your guy to have a bad offensive year, but JCA has its first down year in the last 60 years, and you feel the need to point it out in a topic that has nothing to do with JCA.

I guess it's about what I would expect from you.

 

[jwarigaku]

If you're pointing it out you're involving yourself and by happenstance JCA. If you want to point out a given/perceived difficiency unsolicited, you shouldn't be afraid to play it.

Who said we "JCA guys" are confident? Once again, as I and USD have pointed out, JCA has nothing to do with the Brook's offensive output this year.

 

[USD24]

You JCA guys are so confident why don't you schedule DaBrook for a non conference the next 2 years?

Again, what does Bolingbrook's offense have to do with JCA? You brought it up. I don't think anyone would dispute that Bolingbrook was better than JCA this year. And "us JCA guys" are not responsible for scheduling. Either way, based on their schedule in the last 50 or so years, so you really think JCA is ducking anyone?

 

[jwarigaku]

And there you go again, right back to the past!

Again, what does Bolingbrook's offense have to do with JCA? You brought it up. I don't think anyone would dispute that Bolingbrook was better than JCA this year. And "us JCA guys" are not responsible for scheduling. Either way, based on their schedule in the last 50 or so years, so you really think JCA is ducking anyone?

 

[USD24]

I doubt DaBrook OC is happy with the offensive output this season!

It's not JCA that I have an issue with. It's a few of you guys that want to always point out the Past. Your like the ND fans that keep saying it's gonna be great soon. It's not getting better it's getting worse.

Really? JCA has one bad year and you accuse the fans of living in the past? In regards to gonna be great soon, who knows. PJJP certainly does not claim that. I, on the other hand feel that the Hilltoppers will be decent next year and even better in two years.

 

[jwarigaku]

Not the JCA fan base just some like you.

If as you say they are gonna be better while also questioning DaBrooks offensive output JCA should schedule them.

Really? JCA has one bad year and you accuse the fans of living in the past? In regards to gonna be great soon, who knows. PJJP certainly does not claim that. I, on the other hand feel that the Hilltoppers will be decent next year and even better in two years.

 

[godfthr53]

Another derailed thread.

 

[USD24]

Another derailed thread.

Blame your buddy, the conductor of the derailment train!

 

[jwarigaku]

USD it all started with PJJP but nice try.

Blame your buddy, the conductor of the derailment train!

 

[JFelice]

 

[Voodoo Tatum 21]

I can't figure out Bolingbrook.

Huge School, tons of athletes, good sports programs, and they have cold feet about playing the Valleys and Naperville's every year?

Maybe JCA wants to show them how to Deal the Heat and link up with the Naperville's and the Valley's. Get out of that ESCC meatgrinder and into a softer gentler environment?

less than 20 miles, about 40 minutes to the Valleys via Route30, That is way less commuting for all schools. It's over an hour from the Valleys to GBN or Lake Park (only one more year of that crazy traffic blood pressure raising commute).

 

[Voodoo Tatum 21]

I just read the thread title - Wow this thread really went sideways!! LOL

Bolingbrook at #15 preseason and final result 4-5 with no playoffs and unranked is probably only a mild miss because as Jwar pointed out - they had a ton of tough games with tough schedule. Now - I could argue Montini's schedule was as tough or tougher AND they made the playoffs!!

 

[JLPlayer73]

Liked the returning numbers and talent for Friars but yeah whiff. ...

Intangibles are difficult to quantify. Slight changes in position, philosophy, and team chemistry don't often lend themselves to analysis in the preseason. That's one of the great take aways when discussing the "Boys of Fall"; even in the post season...none of it matters until you play...and nothing that happened earlier in the season matters if you see each other again.


73

 

[guerinfbfan]

Liked the returning numbers and talent for Friars but yeah whiff. Plain N? Picked them third in the conference and finished third...a conference that has been brutally bad in the post-season minus Oswego and a North team that didn't win a state playoff game till 2016 so...

I remember Plainfield South having a really good team in like 2007 or 2008, but lost to Morgan Park in the playoffs.

 

[Gene K.]

I just read the thread title - Wow this thread really went sideways!! LOL

Bolingbrook at #15 preseason and final result 4-5 with no playoffs and unranked is probably only a mild miss because as Jwar pointed out - they had a ton of tough games with tough schedule. Now - I could argue Montini's schedule was as tough or tougher AND they made the playoffs!!

Montini did have a tough schedule and made the playoffs with a lot of key players injured and out for a ton of games. Looking for the Brook and Montini to be back next year as strong contenders in their conference and also in the playoffs.

 

[pjjp]

USD it all started with PJJP but nice try.

You took the bait.

 

[pjjp]

Liked the returning numbers and talent for Friars but yeah whiff.

Getting the thread back on track, I caught the Comcast replay of Fenwick / Plainfield North. I saw why people were high on the Friars. I'll say this now, since the controversy has died down. I heard of Keller, but the Friars had a number of other top end players. Really liked the 6'5 WR O'Laughlin and the MLB Moorman. In fact, Moorman was one of if not the best LB I saw all year. Great agility and instincts. Did not miss a tackle in space against PFN. And at 6'3 225, he was a beast. Not saying they would have beaten ESL, but they would have been a much tougher matchup for the Flyers.