So the scenario happened I envisioned I asked people about...

[kwyjibos13]

Duke wins out in the regular season and UVA loses the final week. Both teams lose in semis. I think they will want to move Nova and Wisconsin to 1's if they win their tournaments. s

My question, should Duke or UVA get the final one? The RPI is not so much different and Duke's resume is better in terms of wins and quality road wins. If I hear ACC regular season champion, I will go nuts. 1). There is no such thing and 2). Duke's ACC schedule was heads and shoulders better than UVA...

 

[dukiejay]

It will be interesting. The loss tonight could very well put us as the 2-seed in UK's region. We know how the committee likes to play those games.

 

[vcugreg]

lol, dj.

with ND as the 3, UNC as the 4, Ville at the 5
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[kwyjibos13]

Originally posted by dukiejay:
It will be interesting. The loss tonight could very well put us as the 2-seed in UK's region. We know how the committee likes to play those games.

I would still argue Duke deserved the one in 13. I still think if the committee went with Zags as a compromise. If Duke got it, all bloody hell would break loose among fans despite Duke having only one loss with one of their best players on the court (and Miami's loss to FGCU was excused cause of a hurt player but where was Duke's reprieve from Ryan's injury). Miami was the tournament champion, but again, lost to Duke in only game Ryan was healthy and lost to an FGCU team Duke pummeled...

 

[stanleyduke]

I'm convinced Wisconsin gets a 1. Everyone is in love with Kaminsky and Wisconsin even though it's as weak a big ten as I've maybe ever seen. Arizona will get the 1 in the west. the one thing going for duke is no one in the country comes close to having the wins duke has, especially road wins. Id take a 2 seed in villanovas bracket though.

 

[germantondevil]

I never seen Duke winning 3 games in three days. 8 Schollys and was not able to get the minutes from Plumlee and Allen tonight puts a lot of wear and tear on the first 5

 

[dukiejay]

We'll see what people are saying tomorrow. I have a hard time imagining both Duke and UVA drop from the 1-line.

 

[Devilicious]

Originally posted by germantondevil:
I never seen Duke winning 3 games in three days. 8 Schollys and was not able to get the minutes from Plumlee and Allen tonight puts a lot of wear and tear on the first 5

I don't the wear and tear. No one played more than 28 minutes the night before except Tyus and they only won 1 game in 2 days. I think that's so overblown.

 

[kwyjibos13]

Zona a one with three losses to three CLEAR non-NCAA teams and not in the vicinity of Duke's wins?

 

[dukiejay]

Originally posted by Devilicious:

Originally posted by germantondevil:
I never seen Duke winning 3 games in three days. 8 Schollys and was not able to get the minutes from Plumlee and Allen tonight puts a lot of wear and tear on the first 5

I don't the wear and tear. No one played more than 28 minutes the night before except Tyus and they only won 1 game in 2 days. I think that's so overblown.

It is....but if people say it enough they convince themselves it might be true.

There re is no indication whatsoever this team is tired. Heck, I didn't think we were tired in 2006, but at least you could form an argument to support a point that we were. Not here.

This team had been playing quite well coming into tonight....but on this evening they played awful and lost to a pretty damn good ND team.

 

[WI#1Dukie22]

I think we end up with a 1 seed, to many big time wins.

I'm already over this L that hurt so bad, I wanted it bad but it should wake us up.

 

[Jhmoss1812]

I don't see too much separating UVA and Duke so it may come down to the H2H which Duke won. UVA has 3 losses, all to ranked teams, by a total of 12 points. Duke has 4 losses, 3 of which are double digits losses, and 2 of which are to unranked teams. Duke has better wins overall and a H2H win. UVA has better losses. I really don't know who deserves it more. In the end, if UVA is a 2 seed, then that's what we are and we'll play the teams in front of us.

 

[bleediteveryday30]

Originally posted by Jhmoss1812:
I don't see too much separating UVA and Duke so it may come down to the H2H which Duke won. UVA has 3 losses, all to ranked teams, by a total of 12 points. Duke has 4 losses, 3 of which are double digits losses, and 2 of which are to unranked teams. Duke has better wins overall and a H2H win. UVA has better losses. I really don't know who deserves it more. In the end, if UVA is a 2 seed, then that's what we are and we'll play the teams in front of us.

You make some good points. I think after tonight we are a 2 seed if Wisconsin or Arizona win then we are most definitely a 2 seed. I think right now the only for sure one seed is Kentucky and its between Uva, Duke, Nova, Wisconsin, and Arizona for the last three 1's. I feel if Nova, Wisky, and Zona all win their conference tourneys, then they are probably all one seeds now. But, that is just me. Doesn't matter if we are a one or a two at this point. All that matters is that we win. It is that simple.

 

[mo.st.dukie]

If Duke gets a 1 seed prepare for another negative backlash like we saw in 2010. Personally, I think both Duke and UVA should be 1 seeds, Wisconsin and Villanova just don't have the same level of wins that Duke and UVA have.

 

[WI#1Dukie22]

No way in heck Duke and UVA both get 1 seeds, not gonna happen. I feel there is a better chance neither do vs both. WI and AZ will win conf. tourneys and both may end up with 1's but one of them will for sure. Not even sure who.

 

[HuffyJB]

This loss definitely makes things interesting. If Duke wins and gets to the finals, they are a guaranteed #1, whether they won the championship or not. Now a 2 seed is very much in play.

 

[Heyman25]

Originally posted by HuffyJB:
This loss definitely makes things interesting. If Duke wins and gets to the finals, they are a guaranteed #1, whether they won the championship or not. Now a 2 seed is very much in play.

This is true, Huffy. OFC

 

[ZLonghorn99]

We hold head to head wins, on the road, against both Wisconsin and UVA. That could be a factor. We can win this things as a two seed as well, if that's where they put us.

 

[HuffyJB]

This could be very similar to 2013 when an earlier than expected ACC Tournament loss puts Duke in a position where their path is SIGNIFICANTLY harder. We'll see tomorrow.

 

[germantondevil]

Originally posted by dukiejay:

Originally posted by Devilicious:

Originally posted by germantondevil:
I never seen Duke winning 3 games in three days. 8 Schollys and was not able to get the minutes from Plumlee and Allen tonight puts a lot of wear and tear on the first 5

I don't the wear and tear. No one played more than 28 minutes the night before except Tyus and they only won 1 game in 2 days. I think that's so overblown.

It is....but if people say it enough they convince themselves it might be true.

There re is no indication whatsoever this team is tired. Heck, I didn't think we were tired in 2006, but at least you could form an argument to support a point that we were. Not here.

This team had been playing quite well coming into tonight....but on this evening they played awful and lost to a pretty damn good ND team.

Since you do not understand what I was saying let me explain. I did not mean that they were wore down and tired for this particular game, I was saying that they would be if they would have won the game and played again tonight. We still have lingering injuries for some players. Three games in three days would have been very difficult to pull off for this team. Big Oak is still favoring that ankle and if you have played any level of sports you know that injuries do not improve when you are playing. Not using for an excuse for last nights game. They were not mentally ready to play in the first half plain and simple