The Big 12 is gathering (demanding) all of the available information regarding the ignoring of criminal behavior by athletes at Baylor. Will the Conference initiate punitive measures, or are they merely a paper tiger?
So, What About Baylor?
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Completely agree.
The Big 12 will be more hands off (no pun intended) than the Big Ten was after they found out one of their coaches was raping children for decades....and the member school (and their longtime head coach) was covering for the molester.
It is not good to have a member of your conference where it's open season on co-eds for the athletes. Most parents and many donors would tend to frown on that. As far as the school is concerned, they either slam that evil door shut, or they cover for it. There is really no in between.
If child rape is ok in the Big Ten, then I doubt any conference is going to punish anyone for anything unless it's the wrong person receiving a free meal.
Penn State = worse
Tennessee= just as bad
USC= cheating scandal
Louisville= hooker gate
this kind of thing happens and in some cases worse (Penn State) and life goes on. Baylor isn't going anywhere. Money drives this train and the Big12 can't afford to kick Baylor out. Let them find a new coach and President/AD and move on. Alabama just had a player get caught with drugs and a stolen gun and no one is kicking them out of the SEC. They will go back to struggling to make a bowl game. That's punishment enough.
Tennessee= just as bad
USC= cheating scandal
Louisville= hooker gate
this kind of thing happens and in some cases worse (Penn State) and life goes on. Baylor isn't going anywhere. Money drives this train and the Big12 can't afford to kick Baylor out. Let them find a new coach and President/AD and move on. Alabama just had a player get caught with drugs and a stolen gun and no one is kicking them out of the SEC. They will go back to struggling to make a bowl game. That's punishment enough.
Punishment enough? Maybe for Alabama. Sisters and daughters were attacked, destroyed and humiliated with rape at Baylor. A Christian university? Time to prove it.
As long as there is no open dancing or handholding, the good Hardshell Baptists that oversee Baylor don't care what happens on campus. Everything else gets swept under the rug. Do whatever kind of you want, but as long as you can stagger into that pew on Sunday morning you're a good person
The "fine upstanding man" that Art Briles is, as a major Baylor booster put it, managed to bail on that public apology as he was too busy pouting about losing his job. He ought to be thanking his lucky stars he hasn't been charged with accessory to rape, the damned scumbag.
The "fine upstanding man" that Art Briles is, as a major Baylor booster put it, managed to bail on that public apology as he was too busy pouting about losing his job. He ought to be thanking his lucky stars he hasn't been charged with accessory to rape, the damned scumbag.
I agree. This isn't the first scandal they've been involved in. It's clear they cannot handle participating in major college sports without covering up murder and promoting the rape of their female students.
This could become interesting. Baylor has previously been reluctant to join the Texas trio voting block, preferring to make their own decisions regarding conference votes. I can imagine UT going along with threatening to hammer them unless the Baylor administration agrees to allow the Longhorns to control their future votes. That would protect UT's veto power if the conference did decide to expand in a year or two.
Ha, christian university only means they are better at hiding it. If you know anything about history, more horror and perversion have been committed on women and children under the guise of religion.
The whole catholic religion covered up and enabled generations of sexual predators and still do it to this day.
I agree, Bobby Boucheer. A rapist, abuser, or a molester can hide behind the guise of Christianity or any religion. But a true Christian is not a rapist, abuser, or molester. It was not the entire Catholic religion, it was the church leadership. Still is.
There are probably a few things going on and none of them involve caring for the women being raped.
A: Legal protection--the BIG 12 is separated from the incidents legally by requesting this info and seeming to threaten Baylor.
B: Texas needs to be able to do as they please without anyone forcing a tag along. Baylor held up A&M leaving the last time and UT and Tech going to the Pac 12 without Baylor--UT may be trying to eliminate that legal threat in advance of their next moves. As someone else mentioned they are probably also blocking any Baylor vote for expansion--toe the UT line or the punishments will be severe.
C: The Baylor "dynasty" is over--now UT can start getting those Baylor recruits to go to UT again.
A: Legal protection--the BIG 12 is separated from the incidents legally by requesting this info and seeming to threaten Baylor.
B: Texas needs to be able to do as they please without anyone forcing a tag along. Baylor held up A&M leaving the last time and UT and Tech going to the Pac 12 without Baylor--UT may be trying to eliminate that legal threat in advance of their next moves. As someone else mentioned they are probably also blocking any Baylor vote for expansion--toe the UT line or the punishments will be severe.
C: The Baylor "dynasty" is over--now UT can start getting those Baylor recruits to go to UT again.
Completely untrue.
The fact is that requesting/requiring this information (that's currently not in their possession) actually increases the odds that the conference becomes bonded with any crime (you used the term legally) committed by Baylor. Any info not turned over by Baylor during a criminal investigation that has been shared with the Big 12 now puts the legal burden in the lap of the conference.
....it's commonly referred to plausible deniability.
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The conference is simply dealing with public relations despite the legal risk. It's certainly not 'protecting itself'......
I agree that Baylor will take a couple steps back in the conference. Recruits have already started to flee, and although Grobe is a high-quality representative that any university could appreciate, he came out of retirement to take over a debaucherous program. Recruits will choose UT and TCU, and Baylor will become a state follower again - but probably not for long if their boosters have as deep of pockets as was reported.
The Baylor mess explains why David Koresh and his cult settled in Waco. Nothing out of the ordinary about them there.
The Baylor disgrace will take months to play out, just as Penn State's horrendous Sandusky abomination did. WVU football season may be over before the Big 12 or NCAA get around to doing anything substantive. PR moves, maybe, but real, long-term punishment is doubtful in the near future, I think.