So, what has Tanner ever really done for USC sports

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He needs to be replaced by someone who will look at the athletics program as a whole and enable each sponsored sport to compete as best they can.
Yes. BUT we will need someone who has the experience and knowledge to hire a QUALITY football coach should it become necessary. Why? Because football is THE money sport that carries the entire athletic department on its shoulder pads.
 

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Yes. BUT we will need someone who has the experience and knowledge to hire a QUALITY football coach should it become necessary. Why? Because football is THE money sport that carries the entire athletic department on its shoulder pads.
How do schools who do not sponsor football survive?
 

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I think Tanner is on his last contract. If I recall correctly, the contract extension he got was not that long. So, there will be an opening sooner rather than later, imho.

I'm not certain, but I think the Beamer hire was more than on Tanner. I think people above got very much involved. That's my speculation.

My hope is that when Tae
He accepted a 2-year extension and got promises for the improvement of Founder's......they wanted four.

With regards to Beamer....you are absolutely correct. It was well known at the time it was happening.

May be the worst kept secret but the replacement AD is much more than likely Chance Miller who is also participating in the baseball coaching search.
 

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With regards to Beamer....you are absolutely correct. It was well known at the time it was happening.
Yeah. I recall talking to someone connected to the Board, who pretty much told me it was going to be Beamer. And Beamer knew it, too, I think. I recall hearing Beamer say he told his wife, shortly after Muschamp's dismissal, to tape all of the South Carolina football day-after game shows. Of course that later comment does not mean he knew for sure. But, the way he said it gave me the impression he had received a "wink and a nod".
 
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Tennis indoor facility came under his watch.
Men's basketball is on the rise. Made NCAA Tournament last year in case you missed it. Track and Field is on the rise with new coach - sent 3X as many athletes to nationals in year one.
Don't have access to broad meeting and neither do you. He wouldn't make those comments public.
He kept Dawn Staley from leaving. Doesn't count as a hire, but it counts for something. Track and Field may become that program if year one under Tim Hall is any indication.
As for men's programs: football has sucked for 120+ years with the exception of a few years here and there. That's not a problem unique to Tanner's reign. As noted, men's basketball went to a Final Four while he was A.D. Now the coach he hired is back in the tournament. Not bad for a program that has sucked since the early 1970s. Baseball had nowhere to go but down after 3 straight CWS appearances. Holbrook was right hire, but it didn't work out. That happens. Teams don't stay great forever... Ole Miss won CWS a few years back... they stink now. Miss State won it recently. Their coach may be leaving too.
Go read the facts as to why Muschamp was hired. Tanner's flaw there was taking Kirby Smart at his word. Tanner was guilty of getting played by Kirby's agent.
Named successes in original post. Keep fishing my friend.
Good lord, Dude. Get off the bath salts.
 
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I don't disagree with your assessment, but you didn't answer my question.
Because I don't know. I'm not in athletic administration. I'm sure there are some schools that don't have football. Are they thriving? I don't know. But I do suspect when you look at the schools who win the national championships in men and womens basketball and in baseball, nearly all of them have football programs. I could be wrong about that later statement. But I won't take the time to research it. But as you said, you don't disagree with my assessment that "if football thrives, ALL our sports teams can benefit. A rising football tide lifts all our sports".
 
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Because I don't know. I'm not in athletic administration. I'm sure there are some schools that don't have football. Are they thriving? I don't know. But I do suspect when you look at the schools who win the national championships in men and womens basketball and in baseball, nearly all of them have football programs. I could be wrong about that later statement. But I won't take the time to research it.
Gonzaga. I think they dropped football right before the US entered WWII.
Marquette. Dropped football in 1960
Villanova. Varsity football competes at the FCS level.

I think you are correct, Probably the best way to evaluate it would be to look at NCAA D-III schools. Probably a higher percentage of D-III schools do not sponsor football than D-I and D-II members. And yeah, it would be interesting to see how many D-III basketball champions (men or women) sponsor football.

And I wonder if schools at the D-III level make money on any sport?
 

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Gonzaga. I think they dropped football right before the US entered WWII.
Marquette. Dropped football in 1960
Villanova. Varsity football competes at the FCS level.

I think you are correct, Probably the best way to evaluate it would be to look at NCAA D-III schools. Probably a higher percentage of D-III schools do not sponsor football than D-I and D-II members. And yeah, it would be interesting to see how many D-III basketball champions (men or women) sponsor football.

And I wonder if schools at the D-III level make money on any sport?
I think Wichita State dropped football 40 years ago too.