So, which is it?
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You misspelled ****.We’re running the “chaos” system where each player runs their own offense and tries to guess what the rest of their teammates are running. It’s really fun —- sometimes, you even luck up and score
Because once my team Kentucky….. went after him I found out who he was and thought he was gonna come in and give us toughness and championship mentality. Been completely opposite imo.
I never heard of him until he was a wildcat. I’m high on every wildcat during the summer. Especially ones that just came off a championship and you expect the floor for that player to at least be steady and solid all season.
I’m not crappin on Aberdeen he just isn’t what i expected.
Aberdeen is what he is. He’s a Swiss Army knife, Jack of all trades, master of none. He’s a good player and being asked to do things he isn’t built for.
Most definitely and most of what I’m saying isn’t even his play. His attitude just seems off to me. I’ve played every sport my whole life and know what teammates look like. Not saying he’s a cancer or a problem just don’t look like he’s interested in the team.
all the things hes being forced to do out of position is 100% because we have a coach that couldn’t even keep a recruit he had committed. Not mad at Aberdeen when it comes to all that. Not mad at him at all. Would be hard for me to single somebody out and be mad at when the whole teams basically had the same attitude and lack of fire.
I definitely think it’s some of both. There’s enough smoke from different sources that I think there’s something to it that agents aren’t agreeable to something in the JMI contract. That’s hopefully fixable, but it seems to have cost us a couple of targets this cycle.
I also do think Pope could be an issue. He may be stretching himself too thin by not having a GM, especially with some of the rumors that he doesn’t have the best temperament for closing out the business part of the deals. I haven’t quite seen this extensively reported, but in my opinion, it’s also going to be tough to convince very many of the top 10 kind of guys he keeps targeting to come play 20-25 minutes a game as one of 10-11 equal pieces, which seems to be his dream roster construction. We need a GM immediately, and Pope may have to either adjust his rotation philosophy to allow stars a chance to shine a little brighter or change who he targets to prioritize fit.
I also do think Pope could be an issue. He may be stretching himself too thin by not having a GM, especially with some of the rumors that he doesn’t have the best temperament for closing out the business part of the deals. I haven’t quite seen this extensively reported, but in my opinion, it’s also going to be tough to convince very many of the top 10 kind of guys he keeps targeting to come play 20-25 minutes a game as one of 10-11 equal pieces, which seems to be his dream roster construction. We need a GM immediately, and Pope may have to either adjust his rotation philosophy to allow stars a chance to shine a little brighter or change who he targets to prioritize fit.
We couldn’t keep Acaden Lewis because we signed Lowe. And honestly, we needed to sign Lowe. Problem is I think we were expecting Jasper to emerge a little more quickly to be the PG2. It hasn’t happened yet and it forces Aberdeen to play PG — he’s more of a 2/3 than a 1. Sometimes it takes time for freshman and Jasper is far from being a PG for us
OK, I agree!!
He certainly is not this season. But he is a system coach.
I’m not saying that as good or bad. I personally prefer to not have a system but many teams do very well as system teams.
Izzo is a perfect example. No one sticks to their system like he does. And he recruits to his system. He is not getting the elite guys either. I heard him say one time “I would like to have those one and done types too. But they won’t play for me.”
It’s really not bad for those guys to play in a system. Even Izzo would change up to showcase their talent.
But it’s a stigma. No player wants to be called a system player.
It’s more of that than actually being detrimental to the player. But image is everything in recruiting.
It was like Cal used AD taking the 5th most shots on the team and going number 1 for years on the recruiting trail. Probably still says that?
Now, if Pope had imperial evidence to counteract that he could mitigate the argument.
But he doesn’t.
Ranked higher because of quantity not quality, you’re purposely leaving out that he missed on most of his primary targets
Why would I purposely (A) need to include that or (B) intentionally leave it out? You know there’s no requirement to agree with anything I say. That said, you’re not going to convince me a top recruiting class somehow means you are a bad recruiter. That’s silly. Every recruiter misses on guys — it just happens less frequently to the ELITE recruiters like Scheyer and Calipari. Honestly, I don’t think anyone thinks Pope is an ELITE recruiter to begin with. If you think he’s the worst recruiter, it’s your mind and I can’t change it.
He also said he had a Ferrari regarding this team.
I really wanted to believe it was a JMI issue because that would be an easier fix than a coach that can’t recruit. Now I’m starting to think that Pope missed out on his main portal targets this past year which is why the roster is so poorly constructed. So the longer it goes with no commitment the more convinced I become Pope whiffed on portal targets and I become more pessimistic about the future.
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The evidence is there that he’s bad, misses on most first options and he’s still yet to get any this year. He’s just bad all the way around, coaches like crap too, I don’t even think having top players would help him. He’s has no clue how to coach any defense and that’s just not going to work
There’s more evidence that he isn’t bad. The evidence that he’s bad is all anecdotal, but really idc. It doesn’t matter that much. I can agree to disagree
Are you freaking kidding me? Have you ever seen a stat sheet? These kids can’t shoot. They can’t can’t hit wide open shots. They were all brought here as our 3rd or 4th option.
Caleb Wilson is a stud. He said no.
lance wilkerson can shoot. He said no
Yaxel is a stud. He said no.
You’re also the guy who claims we don’t need star players. But still I didn’t mention rankings once. We need players that will compliment the system we are trying to run and we don’t have them. Those teams have them and they have stars who can create baskets. That’s what you need. We don’t have it
If you already know what I believe, why argue with me about it? You provided nothing other than what you believe. What am I supposed to do? Argue with what you believe? My beliefs came from heavy research. You can debunk it anytime you want with even better research and I’ll walk around sharing your data. Until then, just let me be.
It’s a message board. People are gonna hav opinions. If differing opinions bum you out then maybe your skin is too thin
Not at all. You’d just have to understand: do you know how many of the same message I get everyday. And it’s never anything factual. I just get tired of talking about it. I put in a lot of time building that research and I get probably 5-10 people a day who bring it up and say “it’s wrong if you think you don’t need 5 stars”. Why is it wrong? Because they did extensive research to show me how I made an error? No, because “I watched that game the other day and so and so scored 30 points and he was a McDonald’s All-American.” I can get along with anyone, but I’m close to just not answering these kinds of things. They don’t offend me, it’s just monotonous and boring and people don’t defend their view at all. “You’re telling me you’d rather have an unknown player than Caleb Wilson?” That kind of thing. Over and over. You feel me? If you wanna debunk me, use facts. I’ll never take it personally, I just need more than assumptions and preferences if you’re gonna debunk something that took me weeks to put together. All love.
Most people are gonna disagree with your assessment so you have to expect it to come up. The best teams, the championship teams have at least one stud (star rating doesn’t matter). Those are also facts. The only thing you can do about it is not engage with anyone about it.
Are they facts? Did you know I tracked that also?
And by the way I don’t mind people disagreeing. Imagine doing a week’s worth of research to determine that the moon isn’t made out of cheese, and yet everywhere you walked for the next two years every person you saw told you how dumb you are for believing the moon isn’t made out of cheese. And most of them say they’re pretty sure it is made out of cheese. Lol. There’s only so long you can keep talking about it with them before you’re sick of talking about the moon and cheese.
Now, if someone came along and did their own work and showed you once and for all the moon really is made of cheese, you might be excited to talk about that
Yes they are facts. I know a stud when I see one. So does the NBA. At some point you just have to watch the game and recognize talent. Special players have a way of separating. Those are the guys you need to have a special team.
btw no one is attacking you personally. You’ve shared a lot of personal stuff on here but even still I’m not trying to attack you personally. I don’t know you. If I disagree with you, don’t take it personally. Sometimes I will think I am right and you are wrong.
No I’m not taking it that way. I’m just saying I’m kind of bored talking about it. I have another thread with all my data if you wanna use that against me. If you can use the data and crack me a new one, I’m good with that
The combination of losing Lewis and the Lowe injury really hurt this team. Just getting Lowe back recently has put us behind with team chemistry.
JMI does seem to be an issue. Some of that probably could have been overcome but hasn’t been. We had to replace several positions which makes it harder to throw too much money at one player. Plus, Pope can’t just assume that recruits are going to see UK the way he and we see UK no matter how well he communicates it.
JMI does seem to be an issue. Some of that probably could have been overcome but hasn’t been. We had to replace several positions which makes it harder to throw too much money at one player. Plus, Pope can’t just assume that recruits are going to see UK the way he and we see UK no matter how well he communicates it.
My concern has nothing to do with the lack of elite one-and-done talent with Pope. There are many ways to skin a cat(design a roster to win games). My concern is that he tries desperately to recruit elite one-and-done players and isn't able to close the deal on any.
Let’s be real. While he hasn’t been a bad recruiter, he might on basically every plan an and even plan b in the portal this past year. High school recruiting is where he’s been very bad. I don’t blame him for Stokes or Collins, or possibly even Holt, but i absolutely blame him for blowing Caleb Wilson’s recruitment.
Portal: B-/C+
High School: D
JJ and Moreno are the only thing keeping high school recruiting from being an F but those were in state kids. He’s got a MASSIVE problem with high school recruiting whether he wants to admit it or not.
None of this likely matters anyway. He’s a lame duck coach. It’s just a matter of time. No different than it was for Stoops and Cal at the end.
Yeah I don’t see him surviving, man. Too many issues, no one’s happy except a very very small subset of fans that will be happy no matter what with any coach
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I have. Have you ever watched an actual game? Not talking about how your favorite player you bet on is doing. The actual unfolding of plays? Calipari brought in a **** ton of "shooters" and was one of the most underachieving coaches in sports history. Why? Because his offense didn't generate good, clean looks consistently. He resorted to iso ball.
FOH with your gaslighting. Absolutely zero reason for you to post something like that. Baiter.
Yeah, that 22 mil figure includes multi-year deals i think.
You don't know what you're talking about. Why don't you take the time to read the board. That poster had hinted at personal attacks around the same time I posted that. Mind your own business.
You don’t think recruiting is a problem?
0-28 on ‘25-‘26 HS 5*’s… Soon to be 0-31! Add in Branch, who Pope is definitely recruiting, and he’s at 0-32!
That’s ZERO, capital Z, Zero 5*’s between 2025 and now, 2027!
Spin it any way you want, that record (and still counting) will never be broken in our lifetimes, and most likely ever!
That’s the Gold Standard definition of bad recruiting!
But he also keeps saying that when it comes to the poor 3-point shooting, that's not who we are. When it comes to getting outhustled, that's not who we are. When it comes to poor assist numbers, that's not who we are. At some point he will have to admit that that is exactly who they are. AND he assembled and is coaching that team.
Believe it could be both. The constant talk about Pope and his emotions after a loss makes you believe some of the chatter about Pope and his emotions in the recruiting process.