Hire the very best AD from the very best football school.
Let him do his thing.
No matter the cost.
Let him do his thing.
No matter the cost.
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Do you buy a new pickup truck every time you need a new set of tires?
We're not buying out Dannon for $12 million so that we can hire the "best" AD with a $2 million bonus and $2 million a year. Then he can fire Rhule and staff for another $65 million. And hire a new staff for $12 million in the first year. That's upwards of $100 million dollars. How about we just hire a new OC instead?
Dannen isn’t going to force Rhule to make any in season changes. And why should he? I’m sure they’ll be conversations after Black Friday(if they’re not already being had now) about multiple staff changes in the off season.
Cost matters. And we have some of the highest wasted costs in college football, and we aren't #1 in revenue or profit from the AD, and we pay for a lot of sports at NU compared to better football schools like Bama. Nebraskans are independent minded and conservative with their money. We aren't a big financial state, we don't have major industry or explosive corporate profits, and where we do have it, many of those folks don't care about anything West of Omaha. NU football is fed by everything west of Lincoln, one of the top agricultural producing states, but generally big AG guys aren't putting billions into a pointless endeavor like an oil man or Nike executive might, who is relying on slave labor for profits anyway. People had to wonder what it means when a state with almost no football talent wastes 50 million on buyouts over three coaches..well incompetence breeds incompetence and you get the worst program in college football. We need a dramatic reset, no name...small contract, small expectations, run the option or variant of power football. Fail, you are fired and start over. We have to do something nobody else is doing. Playing the same game, when we are 10-15 yards behind everybody else just leads to crappy seasons. We would have 2 wins with many teams schedules this season.
In fairness to Dannen, we’ve already seen this tried before (Eichorst to Riley with Banker), and it was a disaster of epic proportions. The AD shouldn’t have to force the head coach at Nebraska to see what’s painfully obvious to even the most casual of football fans.
This fiscally conservative attitude is what got us in this mess. Rhule was supposed to be the fiscally minded option as Alberts would say, and I think is the reason why Albert's was even interested in the first place. Well, Rhule balked at the first offer that was made, and then dipshit Albert's was scrambling to put a new offer together and way overpaid for Rhule with a huge buyout and contract term. But this is just the epitome of Nebraska leadership in recent years.
Here we are, this is Nebraska where fiscal conservatism means $50 million buyout for coaches every few years, $200 million facilities upgrades which haven't amounted to jack ****, and half a billion dollar stadium renovations that significantly reduce seating capacity and makes it harder for families to see a game.
promoting from within was the fiscally sound option.. but Ted Carter nixed that idea.
Troy can promote from within again.. but if Troy and Rhule are buddies.. well then you gotta jettison the AD too if he wants to sit on his hands.
If Rhule does nothing, and Troy does nothing.. then what?
Will the BOR sit on their hands too?
What about Jeffrey Gold?
According to Rhule, Troy told him that going toe to toe with Ohio State means nothing when you can’t replicate that same level of play the next week.
Troy is doing what he should, and that’s allowing Rhule to fail on his own.
There is nothing that can fix this. It's not fixable. We suck, the end. How many years do you need to watch this trash to realize the happy ending isn't happening? We are the worst major conference program in existence. How about fold the program, wait 10 years until the last scrap of connection to RIGHT NOW is nothing but a distant memory, and then start anew without the mentally fragile 1-150 players and coaches that continue passing this virus on year-after-year? That's as realistic as thinking a different AD is THE solution, FFS.
No kidding...
NU is a lame super average team right now. It can literally all be different and they can be very good next year. Just get the right coaches in place. And there are a few players that just finally need to be gone and done with their time at NU.
You can go back 10+ years and pick a team every year and say "If they can fix ______ Nebraska sure as hell can be fixed." You're ignoring a decade of black and white evidence.
IMO we’re a good OC away from being an 8-9 win team. Satt has to lose his play calling duties at the very least. Hopefully Rhile takes it over. A trained monkey could do a better job than Satt.
Our hires have had issues. Frost was his own worst enemy. Riley would have been bowling his last season if he hadn’t been forced to hire Diaco and switch to a 3-4. Rhule has made a mistake it appears by hiring Satterfield as his play caller. I’m going to give him a chance to either fire him or dictate to him how plays are called.
It’s been 25 years since a conf championship. How long do you need? People think Neb is better than teams like Indiana. They can recruit their 500 mile radius and take the leftovers - their leftovers are better than the 500 around Neb. It’s not changing and what top AD or coach wants to come here and try and recruit? Every good coach or recruiter will leave after year 2 or 3 of living on a plane.
It’s a lack of talent. Even if you get the number 1 kid, let alone QB, we screw that up. 8 wins is our playoff and 9 wins every 15 years with a pancake schedule is out NC.
F that, it's obvious Rhule will never be the guy, get rid of his *** and let the new AD get the coach he wants
Yes, but the optics of Nebraska hiring a guy like the old guy from "James Madison" might be too embarrassing for an AD. Our fanbase causes a lot of our problems by being too supportive if the guy is the "right cultural fit", whatever that means and then shitting immediately on the guy if the hire "doesn't seem right". That stuff matters to people thinking of coming to NU and taking slightly less money to try to build us back up. Trev was too shortsighted to emotionally imagine Cignetti "fitting in" at NU and he got fixated on not taking too long to make the hire. Our American training tells us that rich and successful people must be exceptional, but that doesn't apply to college athletics.
But what if he doesn't see it or refuses to do it. It's the ADs job ( who gets paid a heck of a lot less to be the boss) to have a good program and help them
It’s not going to happen. We’re pot committed. Nor would I want us to clean house. There are some good things he’s doing but he either needs to can Satt or take ownership of the offense. He said repeatedly that 18 points isn’t good enough. We need to give him a chance to fix it.
Well, that’s the problem. If Rhule doesn’t see it (or won’t see it), we’re screwed.
Eichorst forcing Diaco on Riley. Trev hiring Whipple for Frost. I hear what you’re saying, but I honestly can’t think of too many situations where an AD has successfully forced his own hire on a head coach and had it work out long term.
As angry as I am over losing to fricking 2-5 UCLA, I still hold out hope for Rhule doing whatever is necessary to get the job done here. By the time Frost left, I absolutely despised the guy, mainly because of his complete lack of work ethic and respect for the job. Rhule is the polar opposite in that regard; he works his *** off and drives his team and his coaches hard, and I don’t think there’s any question about that.
But it’s not going to work with Satt; it’s just not. You know it, I know it, and anyone who ever picked up (or even looked at) a football knows it. Rhule will either come to terms with that, or it’s just a matter of time before he’s on his way out of Lincoln.
problem is, we saw Satt had a problem last year.. and so did Rhule..
Rhule did bring in another OC guy to be QB coach..
However he sounds pretty defiant about 'what we are saying about Satt' and throws the players under the bus.
He's saying he's not doing any directing in the game.. (i don't know if true or not) but he sure doesn't seem to want to take any heat off Satt either.
It sort of seems like he is defending Satt overall, so I don't get any feeling that anything will change.
Satt will work extra hard and we will get another W, make our bowl game and the offense will come alive for another game or two, but eventually fall back down into Satt's normal comfort zone.. and nothing will change.
I hope to all heck, Satt just leaves at the end of the season.. otherwise there is zero indication that Rhule will make a change.
Did Rhule figure that getting a quarterback like Dylan he could fill in the deficiency of satt? If so he figured wrong
We all need to be hoping that Rhule fixes the offense. This "fire rule" nonsense is wasted energy. He's not going anywhere, zero chance, nada, etc. I still like Rhule, but let's see if he can show some backbone. Assuming he make an offseason change at OC, I would say it's a THE defining moment of whether he's successful here or the next failure.
Soooo Rhule couldn’t see the problem supposedly yet he brought in Thomas as co/OC and QB coach. I haven’t seen Rhule throw a single player under the bus. He’s made it clear IMO opinion with what he’s done that he’s not happy with Satterfield’s job performance. He’s tried to help Satt but he may have no choice but to fire him.
Tom stated multiple times after he retired that he had kept underperforming assistants on staff and worked with them until he was sure they couldn’t cut it. Rhule I think has recognized now that Satt can’t cut it in the B1G. We’ll see what he does.
.. Rhule knows full well the fanbase view of Satterfield’s play calling. I don’t see any way Satterfield remains on staff.
Tom also retired "early" because he was working 18 hour days to not only be the top recruiter, but also the best play-caller/offensive coordinator in the nation, and the head coach that had to manage a million player/media problems. He made a great hire at DC, which would be proven later. I still can't figure out what Rhule actually does to get paid, let alone his ridiculous salary. He talks alot? He isn't a position specialist? He isn't a great play caller? He has never been a coordinator at a top school. CEO in college football isn't a position, if it is it would be more for AD. I feel sick comparing T.O or Saban to Rhule, but Saban had to restructure his staff over and over again as his coaching tree left to go become successful other places...he didn't rely on specific coaches because he was an all-around good coach who knew what he wanted. We obviously aren't getting Saban, and Rhule needs to go but Rhule needing his buddies to make this thing work just shows more weakness for Rhule.
Tom retired early in large part because his Drs some of whom I know told him and Nancy that he needed to. Tom nearly died before his last bowl game. He downplays how serious that hospitalization was at the end of the regular season was. I’m amazed he’s still alive. It’s a credit to his Drs and Tom’s strict adherence to their advice.