Some Canadians are waking up
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Canada about to make criticism of Islam a criminal offense. What??????? I thought Canadians believed in Western values of equality and freedom of speech. The times must be changing in Canada.
I do seem to remember Mark Steyn being charged in Canada for exercising his free speech. I wonder if the Canadians have a special police force to patrol neighborhoods looking for people that are not "speaking correctly'?
I do seem to remember Mark Steyn being charged in Canada for exercising his free speech. I wonder if the Canadians have a special police force to patrol neighborhoods looking for people that are not "speaking correctly'?
Firstly PAX I'm not in favour of the language in this Motion...singleing out 'Islamaphobia' or whatever is unnecessary , just as I thought same for Motions that were brought forth in 2016 , and 2011 specifically mentioning Jewish and Coptic Christian faiths. We all know what hate speech is and there are already laws/human rights tribunals in place here to effectively deal with it for all races, religions and cultures.
Secondly, it was an Islamist organization out of BC that attempted to have Steyn charged, and it was quickly dismissed by The Human Rights Board/Tribunal as baseless...
Thirdly, for Brietbart Bobby to say 'Canadians are waking up' ? Well...I take nothing he says seriously whatsoever...he deposits heresay and pure crap all over this board constantly and when called out to verify...vamoose!
I thought the Steyn thing went on for years. BTW, please educate me on Canada. In the US, we have freedom of speech even when that speech is "hateful" or "hate" speech. Does Canada not have the same degree of freedom of speech?
Steyn went to the tribunal in Dec of 2007, thrown out by 2 tribunals in Oct 2008, which by my estimation is pretty damn quick for the judicial system up here...
As for the hate laws re both speech and publication here is the nuts and bolts of it
Sections 318, 319, and 320 of the Code forbid hate propaganda.[3] "Hate propaganda" means "any writing, sign or visible representation that advocates or promotes genocide or the communication of which by any person would constitute an offence under section 319."
Section 318 prescribes imprisonment for a term not exceeding five years for anyone who advocates genocide. The Code defines genocide as the destruction of an "identifiable group." The Code defines an "identifiable group" as "any section of the public distinguished by colour, race, religion, ethnic origin or sexual orientation."
Section 319 prescribes penalties from a fine to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years for anyone who incites hatred against any identifiable group.
Under section 319, an accused is not guilty: (a) if he establishes that the statements communicated were true; (b) if, in good faith, the person expressed or attempted to establish by an argument an opinion on a religious subject or an opinion based on a belief in a religious text; (c) if the statements were relevant to any subject of public interest, the discussion of which was for the public benefit, and if on reasonable grounds he believed them to be true; or (d) if, in good faith, he intended to point out, for the purpose of removal, matters producing or tending to produce feelings of hatred toward an identifiable group in Canada.
Section 320 allows a judge to confiscate publications which appear to be hate propaganda.
We also have a small more sussinct section written into our charter of rights and freedoms which has been re-worked once or twice since it was invoked I'm thinkin round 1980 or so my memory fails me a bit...
And here it is...
The Constitution of Canada incorporates the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.[1]Section 2 of the Charter grants to everyone, among other things, freedom of conscience and religion, and freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media. Section 1 restricts the granted freedoms by making them subject "only to such reasonable limits prescribed by law as can be demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society.
I really can't disagree with any of it...especially since one of my buddies in downtown Toronto regularly gets filth publications in his mailbox for years by some idiot politician named 'Sears' essentially intimating in various ways that the holocaust never happened, yet this jackass words everything so carefully I assume that he has never been charged...
Many of those sentences seems very vague and open to great interpretation. No wonder Steyn was forced to go through the legal process to defend himself.
Indeed...and our judges are appointed not elected...whether it be by Con or Lib...which adds another facet to it. Usually it works...usually....
Besides...I am hopefully watching my Pens bring ultimate destruction to the Preds now...we pick this up later :wink:....good hockey game thus far...