Somebody needs to crush Crawford

[BoNicholas]

His article today is the epitome of everything that's wrong with the Louisville media. He says in the article what Jurich said was wrong. He then however, goes on to list all the reasons he should get a pass, starting with the old reliable "nobody's perfect defense." Essentially, he says 'shut up and move on'.

Here's the problem, the Louisville media is treating this with the same tone def attitude Jurich is treating it with. It's not OK. It's not Ok because his teams win, it's not OK because he's "supposedly" taking it seriously, and it's not ok "because nobodies perfect." They have a culture of cheating and corruption and all Crawford is doing is continuing to feed it. If any of you have Courier subscriptions left, I hope this does it. The National media has called him "a laughing stock" and "the epitome of everything that's wrong with college athletics." However, the media for the city he represents sees no problem because let's face it, nobodies perfect.

 

[theoledog]

Well I think you said that very well and sums up what many of us think that live around Louisville....

 

[irishcat1965]

His article today is the epitome of everything that's wrong with the Louisville media. He says in the article what Jurich said was wrong. He then however, goes on to list all the reasons he should get a pass, starting with the old reliable "nobody's perfect defense." Essentially, he says 'shut up and move on'.

Here's the problem, the Louisville media is treating this with the same tone def attitude Jurich is treating it with. It's not OK. It's not Ok because his teams win, it's not OK because he's "supposedly" takINT it seriously, and it's not ok "because nobodies perfect." They have a culture of cheating and corruption and all Crawford is doing is continuing to feed it. If any of you have Courier subscriptions left, I hope this does it. The National media has called him "a laughing stock" and "the epitome of everything that's wrong with college athletics." However, the media for the city he represents sees no problem because let's face it, nobodies perfect.

I'm surprised Crawford got his head out of Pitino's lap long enough to write an article. He is one of the worst UL fanboys there is. At least Bozich has had the stones to blast UL and their continued cheating.

 

[Beatle Bum]

Valvano was right yesterday that people are afraid of Jurich. There are limited opportunities to cover sports in Louisville. If UL yanks your credentials, your livelihood is impacted. Jurich evidently can be ruthless.

 

[thepip]

Oh baby, just hold those horses, they are in for it.

 

[John Henry]

As an outsider it is amazing to read article after article and post on message boards about everyone being afraid of an AD. It is strange. Why would any media member be afraid of the man? But they appear to be by the way they write the stories. It is almost as if this is the only job these writers or TV, radio people can get. Are they that limited in life?

 

[Raptureme]

I've seen Crawford out before and both his young kids had UofL garb on....kids that young ALWAYS follow what the parents do

 

[Adolph Rollingover]

Read the paddycake take the CJ columnist takes with Jurich.

Sullivan | Jurich needs an editor, not exile

http://cjky.it/2hWQ2N8

 

[Adolph Rollingover]

As an outsider it is amazing to read article after article and post on message boards about everyone being afraid of an AD. It is strange. Why would any media member be afraid of the man? But they appear to be by the way they write the stories. It is almost as if this is the only job these writers or TV, radio people can get. Are they that limited in life?

A smaller scale of Donald Trump. Cheerlead for me or get nothing.

 

[Anon1660081258]

Rehabbing him, aren't they?

 

[Anon1660081258]

A smaller scale of Donald Trump. Cheerlead for me or get nothing.

Careful, you are throwing chum off the stern.

 

[yoshukai]

A smaller scale of Donald Trump. Cheerlead for me or get nothing.

I should be in great shape then !

 

[jauk11]

Read the paddycake take the CJ columnist takes with Jurich.

Sullivan | Jurich needs an editor, not exile

http://cjky.it/2hWQ2N8

He needs an editor? I thought he already had all the sports writers in Louisville covering for him.

 

[ukalum1988]

Read the paddycake take the CJ columnist takes with Jurich.

Sullivan | Jurich needs an editor, not exile

http://cjky.it/2hWQ2N8

Tim Sullivan is a UofL homeboy - case closed. [sick]

 

[sambowieshin_rivals]

He needs morals, ethics and a spine way more than he needs an editor.

 

[Blue Decade]

Oh baby, just hold those horses, they are in for it.

Yeah, I think this is far from over. The national media is running with it now. Jurich is trying to dump it all on Lonnie Galloway, but everyone can see this is really Petrino. And it isn't like Petrino has a clean, upstanding past or anything. Coming on the heels of Katina Powell's book and President Ramsey's resignation, it looks really bad now in Louisville. Jurich can't control ESPN and CBS.

 

[canebreak]

All I know is UK would have been crucified if any one if these things occurred.

Pitino sex on table, hooker gate, UL foundation, hiring petrino, I know I'm missing a lot. But UK coaches and AD would have been fired. We cleaned house for much less. I cannot imagine if they all happened at UK.

Can you imagine what Crawford would write? Can you imagine the CJ editorials?

 

[Blue Decade]

Valvano was right yesterday that people are afraid of Jurich. There are limited opportunities to cover sports in Louisville. If UL yanks your credentials, your livelihood is impacted. Jurich evidently can be ruthless.

As far as it goes, that is probably true at the local level. But this is a national story now, not a local story anymore, and the national media isn't scared of Jurich. Jurich's effort to compartmentalize Petrino by dumping this thing on Lonnie Galloway is the kind of sleazy trick that has worked for Jurich before. But it looks bad, and it might not work in this case. If it doesn't, then Jurich has lost containment of the story and it will get worse. Added to the Katina Powell scandal and the Ramsey resignation, this is real trouble.

 

[NCukcat62]

A smaller scale of Donald Trump. Cheerlead for me or get nothing.

Hmmmmmmm

 

[fromthe25ydline]

Isn't this what happens in a one horse town? Lexington has the same problem to a far lesser degree. It's just not as amplified and doesn't spin out of the AD's office.

 

[theoledog]

It's the strangest of things to see living here... I don't have any connections to Louisville other than I just live here...
It was an industrial town that's lost most of what it had... Ford and GE are remnants of the past... UPS dominates the employment scene and I've heard that as many as 20K around here owe there check, or a lot of it, to UPS...
I perceive the City relationship with UofL to be of greater need than UK/Lexington as far as economic impact.... The Belknap Campus didn't get to where it is today without some sort of financial symbiotic relationship with business, and goverment.... I'll go so far to say the relationship has been so dependent on each other that it's become unhealthy for all.... The YUM Center fiasco is the easiest of sleazy relationships to see.... As time has gone by the circle of sleaze has touched media, business, sport and government... They are connected now in a bad way... They know and owe too much concerning each other....... Poor performing sports programs for UofL (my opinion) would create more harmful economic distress in Louisville than the same in Lexington... So as they all share in the profits of Card success so would they loose due to failure... They have more to loose is what I'm saying and I think explains why they're in the spot they're in.... I mean if you're going to be dirty what better place to do it than Louisville KY... Nobody other than us locals give a damn about what goes on here....

 

[Stenchymouse]

As far as it goes, that is probably true at the local level. But this is a national story now, not a local story anymore, and the national media isn't scared of Jurich. Jurich's effort to compartmentalize Petrino by dumping this thing on Lonnie Galloway is the kind of sleazy trick that has worked for Jurich before. But it looks bad, and it might not work in this case. If it doesn't, then Jurich has lost containment of the story and it will get worse. Added to the Katina Powell scandal and the Ramsey resignation, this is real trouble.

I guess Galloway is the "Andre McGee" of this situation...

Just like the mafia...

The underlings always take the fall.

 

[Cat78Scot]

As far as it goes, that is probably true at the local level. But this is a national story now, not a local story anymore, and the national media isn't scared of Jurich. Jurich's effort to compartmentalize Petrino by dumping this thing on Lonnie Galloway is the kind of sleazy trick that has worked for Jurich before. But it looks bad, and it might not work in this case. If it doesn't, then Jurich has lost containment of the story and it will get worse. Added to the Katina Powell scandal and the Ramsey resignation, this is real trouble.

That school's athletic program is the very definition of loss of institutional control if you believe what they keep saying about each scandal; that rogue assistant coaches are responsible.

The only other possible answer is that the behavior of their coaches is condoned and encouraged, which is just as bad, if not worse than LOI.

There is an obvious pattern that runs through the entire athletic program either way.

I must say, it's really enjoyable to watch this implosion after all their hubris and false bravado. If they get nailed that is.

 

[JPFisher]

Isn't this what happens in a one horse town? Lexington has the same problem to a far lesser degree. It's just not as amplified and doesn't spin out of the AD's office.

Jerry Tipton. Not to mention that cases get covered by the media very well. Tubman, Hatcher, EKU Fight Club, etc. Plus, we're under the watchful eye of several national and regional figures such as Forde, Finebaum, and a cohort of deplorables.

UK is watched with bated breath. UL is watched with apathy and disregard. Another day, another scandal, another drop in the bucket for Louisville, and it isn't a good look. There are always going to be media members who drink kool-aid, but it goes beyond that in some Jurichdictions.

 

[Blue Decade]

I guess Galloway is the "Andre McGee" of this situation...

Just like the mafia...

The underlings always take the fall.

Andre McGee hired prostitutes, misappropriated funds, contributed to the delinquency of minors, very serious criminal activities. Lonnie Galloway used a personal contact to steal a game prep document. So no comparison at all. But there are larger questions. Have game plans been stolen from other football teams besides Wake Forest? Did Petrino know? Was Galloway acting at Petrino's specific direction? (In other words, does it quack like a duck?) Have UL football players and recruits (as opposed to only basketball recruits) been given prostitutes.by UL employees? How much did Jurich know? All of these questions must be answered. As long as Jurich contained the story in the local media, they could not be answered. Now the story is in the national media, and Jurich is losing containment. So some, maybe all, of these questions will get answered. That's the point.

 

[John Henry]

It's the strangest of things to see living here... I don't have any connections to Louisville other than I just live here...
It was an industrial town that's lost most of what it had... Ford and GE are remnants of the past... UPS dominates the employment scene and I've heard that as many as 20K around here owe there check, or a lot of it, to UPS...
I perceive the City relationship with UofL to be of greater need than UK/Lexington as far as economic impact.... The Belknap Campus didn't get to where it is today without some sort of financial symbiotic relationship with business, and goverment.... I'll go so far to say the relationship has been so dependent on each other that it's become unhealthy for all.... The YUM Center fiasco is the easiest of sleazy relationships to see.... As time has gone by the circle of sleaze has touched media, business, sport and government... They are connected now in a bad way... They know and owe too much concerning each other....... Poor performing sports programs for UofL (my opinion) would create more harmful economic distress in Louisville than the same in Lexington... So as they all share in the profits of Card success so would they loose due to failure... They have more to loose is what I'm saying and I think explains why they're in the spot they're in.... I mean if you're going to be dirty what better place to do it than Louisville KY... Nobody other than us locals give a damn about what goes on here....

This is excellent. What goes on in Louisville in unique in part because it is a city university. It receives state funding but is identified by the masses as a city university, not a state university. Louisville has always tried to separate from the rest of the state and have nothing in common with most Kentuckians. So they get in their little corner of the universe and do pretty much what they want to do. And what they want to do is driven as pointed out above on how to make money for the city and university circle. It if it calls for being dirty, then you get dirty. With Jurich, Pitino and Petrino you have a perfect triangle of lie, deceive and just do anything to win and make the $$$$$$$$$. The rest of America really doesn't give a damn about you so keep on doing what you do Louisville.

The University of Kentucky could not get away with what UL does nor would the people allow it. Nor would we as fans want them to lie and bend every rule. The difference in standards is startling between the two universities.

 

[cardkilla_rivals379685]

I think the Sullivan article is a perfect example of the type of 'hard' journalism that goes on in Louisville. He writes a few 'tough' pieces, declares his independence, then with a pre-written statement, UL is back in the good graces.

Why, Jurich made a tough call by announcing self-imposed sanctions after hooker gate! He fired no one, passed the blame, and did everything possible to get this to go away. But Sullivan says he's courageous for making such a bold decision!

 

[Real Deal 2]

Doesn't another national columnist live in Louisville. Maybe he is trying to get his yahoo breach corrected or at his daughters swim meet in Missouri or whatever. I mean Dan Wetzel had to write the national story since Pat Forde begged out of it. Probably down in some teacher's office trying to dig up an ACT story about Cal or Worldwide Wes. Nothing to see here, I am too close to situation.
Pat Forde begged out of story. What a freaking boy..

 

[John Henry]

Doesn't another national columnist live in Louisville. Maybe he is trying to get his yahoo breach corrected or at his daughters swim meet in Missouri or whatever. I mean Dan Wetzel had to write the national story since Pat Forde begged out of it. Probably down in some teacher's office trying to dig up an ACT story about Cal or Worldwide Wes. Nothing to see here, I am too close to situation.
Pat Forde begged out of story. What a freaking boy..

Pat Forde has lost all respect and should never be accused of being a journalist. He is everything but a "journalist". He is a pathetic lap dog.

 

[red rage 2016]

Andre McGee hired prostitutes, misappropriated funds, contributed to the delinquency of minors, very serious criminal activities. Lonnie Galloway used a personal contact to steal a game prep document. So no comparison at all. But there are larger questions. Have game plans been stolen from other football teams besides Wake Forest? Did Petrino know? Was Galloway acting at Petrino's specific direction? (In other words, does it quack like a duck?) Have UL football players and recruits (as opposed to only basketball recruits) been given prostitutes.by UL employees? How much did Jurich know? All of these questions must be answered. As long as Jurich contained the story in the local media, they could not be answered. Now the story is in the national media, and Jurich is losing containment. So some, maybe all, of these questions will get answered. That's the point.

Galloway was contacted by Elrod, Galloway didn't go seeking the plays they were offered to him. Keep in mind that Army and VA. Tech coaches also were contacted by Elrod. Galloway and Elrod were on the same staff at WF. I believe Army and VA. Tech also has coaches that were on the same staff as Elrod at WF.

 

[Adolph Rollingover]

@red rage 2016 listen to yourself out loud. Andre Magee didn't call Katina Powell, she called him. State U A and City School B also took Katina's call.

Now substitute Galloway or Magee and Elrod for Katina. What difference does it make?

 

[BoNicholas]

Galloway was contacted by Elrod, Galloway didn't go seeking the plays they were offered to him. Keep in mind that Army and VA. Tech coaches also were contacted by Elrod. Galloway and Elrod were on the same staff at WF. I believe Army and VA. Tech also has coaches that were on the same staff as Elrod at WF.

Again, tone def. We cheated but... You Cheated, period.

 

[Blue Decade]

Galloway was contacted by Elrod, Galloway didn't go seeking the plays they were offered to him. Keep in mind that Army and VA. Tech coaches also were contacted by Elrod. Galloway and Elrod were on the same staff at WF. I believe Army and VA. Tech also has coaches that were on the same staff as Elrod at WF.

So say you. Even if some of what you say is accurate, it's still a cesspool over there. Coverups are often more serious than original allegations, and Jurich's statement is obviously inadequate under the circumstances. Most people understand this. A real investigation is in order, even if it must be conducted by the national media. I'm sure you probably won't agree. I have been through the whole Hal Mumme experience, and certainly understand how humiliating and disillusioning it is to discover your favorite school has been engaged in idiotic, self destructive conspiratorial activities. This will test you.

 

[Adolph Rollingover]

@Blue Decade spot on. Scummy and Fraud Bassett were dispicable.

 

[STUCKNBIG10]

I'm surprised Crawford got his head out of Pitino's lap long enough to write an article. He is one of the worst UL fanboys there is. At least Bozich has had the stones to blast UL and their continued cheating.

Agreed. Bozo has surprised me in the past year, he has actually been consistently critical of UL.

 

[*Bleedingblue*]

A smaller scale of Donald Trump. Cheerlead for me or get nothing.

Huh??????????


you need to do some reading because you are doing a 180 from the truth

https://www.google.com/amp/www.foxn...xposes-medias-secret-support-clinton.amp.html

 

[sambowieshin_rivals]

I think the Sullivan article is a perfect example of the type of 'hard' journalism that goes on in Louisville. He writes a few 'tough' pieces, declares his independence, then with a pre-written statement, UL is back in the good graces.

Why, Jurich made a tough call by announcing self-imposed sanctions after hooker gate! He fired no one, passed the blame, and did everything possible to get this to go away. But Sullivan says he's courageous for making such a bold decision!

Sullivan is not only a journalist with no real integrity, but a terrible writer as well. I remember reading his first few sports columns when I still subscribed to the paper. I couldn't stand his ridiculous use of similes and middle school level use of hyperboles. His writing was my number one reason for cancelling my subscription. I knew that if he was one of the main sports columnists at the CJ, I could no longer stand to read the paper every day. Don't regret cancelling for a minute. It really used to be a good paper years ago. Kinda sad really.

 

[Adolph Rollingover]

@*Bleedingblue* Im Not going political here. There is reason Washington Post has fewer Pres credentials when there is a republican than when there is a democrat. Same with Jurich. Be my friend or look from the outside. Been used for eons by everyone, Pres Elect Trump is just most recent and visible.

@sambowieshin When I lived in Cincy Sullivan was with the Enquirer. Agree with your opinion 100%. Just boring and awful. Same with Crawford

 

[Stenchymouse]

Andre McGee hired prostitutes, misappropriated funds, contributed to the delinquency of minors, very serious criminal activities. Lonnie Galloway used a personal contact to steal a game prep document. So no comparison at all. But there are larger questions. Have game plans been stolen from other football teams besides Wake Forest? Did Petrino know? Was Galloway acting at Petrino's specific direction? (In other words, does it quack like a duck?) Have UL football players and recruits (as opposed to only basketball recruits) been given prostitutes.by UL employees? How much did Jurich know? All of these questions must be answered. As long as Jurich contained the story in the local media, they could not be answered. Now the story is in the national media, and Jurich is losing containment. So some, maybe all, of these questions will get answered. That's the point.

I wasn't necessarily comparing the crimes as much as the pattern of deflecting blame onto a scapegoat by Jurich and company.

I don't think for one second that McGee acted alone, and you insinuate that he's so dispicable for committing these acts as if he's any more guilty than the rest of the crew...

 

[zcats]

Jurich is virtually independent of the university. He is extremely powerful, probably more than the university president. I am sure the Louisville press is intimidated by him and by the economic importance of UL and UL athletics on the community. Jurich doesn't really seem to care what people outside of his universe think of him. I expect UL will dump an assistant or two and move on and every one else will as well. This will all be old news after the holidays. Hooker gate has mostly blown over.