something rotten in Lexington?
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Could be a number of things. Both situations are understandable. Towles was passed up by the young buck, and he's going into his final year of eligibility. It would have only made sense for him to leave. Phillips has gone 2 season with very, very few snaps. You can count on 2 hands. There's also the possibility that Kentucky picks up a grad transfer QB, or a JUCO, and they bring in another that's more talented than Phillips. It's not similar to the situation at Texas A&M, where you lose two 5-star QB's in a couple of weeks, and one of the transfers is completely inexplicable. What's happening there is rotten. What's happening here is pretty understandable.
Back in olden days it seemed like college coaches used to give backup QBs more work in case they were needed in important games and to hopefully avoid messes like Stoops is in now for QBs. Now starting QBs are not removed except in blowouts, which are a rarity for UK.
I would have thought that with Barkers less than stellar play that there would be an opportunity for Philips. He must have been told otherwise or knows something we don't
This shouldn't be surprising, none of these QBs were recruited by this staff. I won't rehash the Towles career but the other 3 were not going to play at UK. Smith's UK career was marked by numerous injuries and while he had success at San Diego State his time at UK was highlighted by being in the crosshairs of SEC Ds. In short, he took an awful beating.
Whitlow went to Eastern Illinois where he finished his QB career with 1900 yards passing this year with 10 TDs and 14 INTs. That's against OVC competition. Whitlow should've taken the chance to move to WR, maybe it would've given him a career boost.
Phillips sustained a serious injury at UK. Just bad luck. Maybe he would've developed, maybe not. I hope he gets a chance somewhere else.
I appreciate their time at UK, maybe they'll find football success elsewhere. Meanwhile, let's support those who are staying to try to build this program.
Whitlow went to Eastern Illinois where he finished his QB career with 1900 yards passing this year with 10 TDs and 14 INTs. That's against OVC competition. Whitlow should've taken the chance to move to WR, maybe it would've given him a career boost.
Phillips sustained a serious injury at UK. Just bad luck. Maybe he would've developed, maybe not. I hope he gets a chance somewhere else.
I appreciate their time at UK, maybe they'll find football success elsewhere. Meanwhile, let's support those who are staying to try to build this program.
Why would they not stay. Rumor has it that we are getting a top notch OC whose team rushed for 77 yards on 32 carries (an amazing 2.4 YPC) and threw for 202 yards on 19-31 in a lopsided blowout. Can't wait for our exciting new offense next year.
He got hurt in the spring so Dawson didn't get to see much of him. However, Brown really talked him up and wanted to play him.
Here is a recent comment from Stoops.
“It will be really good to see Reese fully healthy, a little bit older,” the head coach said in an interview with the Herald-Leader and the Louisville Courier-Journal. “Both coordinators have both said over the years that Reese really had a good understanding of the offense and could always manage and operate the offense well"
Funny I didn't see any of the other QB's operate the offense very well.
Anyway he is gone so next man up and I just hope Stoops let's his new OC call the shots, if not its going to be a long couple of years.
2 upper class QBs beat out by a RS frosh. Not sure we need much more info.
In hindsight probably should have happened sooner. We will be fine except for all the haters and bashers instigating crap and making more out of it then there is.
Quarterback is the position you see the most movement in throughput collage football. We have seen QB's leave before. There is nothing more behind it then finding playing time somewhere else.
People acting like its the end of the world that two mediocre QBs are transferring [roll]
either something is rotten...
or CMS is going all in with DB, his guy, so PT and Reece are going to get theirs...
or a combination of the two...
I don't think there is any question something went south...we all saw it painfully unfold before our eyes...now 2 QBs, an OC, and a WR coach are all gone...
We can only hope all these changes are going to work out for the better...for all parties...
or CMS is going all in with DB, his guy, so PT and Reece are going to get theirs...
or a combination of the two...
I don't think there is any question something went south...we all saw it painfully unfold before our eyes...now 2 QBs, an OC, and a WR coach are all gone...
We can only hope all these changes are going to work out for the better...for all parties...
Not ragging the kid but he looked like a dear in the headlights when he got in the game
Last year at Tennessee . I wish him the best but I'd take barker and give him the reps , develop him and the new guy and bring in a mobile 3rd string QB for different situations to replace him. This would give us a better line up anyway.
Last year at Tennessee . I wish him the best but I'd take barker and give him the reps , develop him and the new guy and bring in a mobile 3rd string QB for different situations to replace him. This would give us a better line up anyway.
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I think you are smelling the UL basketball team. Rumor has it that they have arrived in Lexington. Can't get that stink off them
Something is rotten and it is Stoops that has made decisions to sealed his fate. Unfortunately the UK fan is the big loser because we are stuck with Stoops for two more years. No coach let's his senior QB with experience transfer for a unproven redshirt freshman,who has not shown that he is an SEC QB that can win.
Actually Barker would then be a RS soph. And there are plenty of 5th year transfers that are QBs. Not just the one who plays for Stoops. Also, what is Stoops going to do? If the guy doesn't want to be here then he is more of a problem than positive.
wowser, another scolly just opened up. OK Santa, bring us a great big nasty Juco offensive tackle to bookend Tate or even a great big nasty second coming of Melvin Lewis.
Our offensive numbers in every stat category that is kept went down in every category from the year before. The quarterback play failed this team. The OC was about as unimaginable as ever. All with the best young skilled offensive players we have had in a long time. What is going on is to be expected. Stoops is stepping up as the head man. He is working on changing the future of this program. More then what some other past coaches have tried to do.
I think you are on to something there, and they are even bringing their madame with them according to reports on the other site. Which they are using to claim UK's involvement, LOL, pretty obvious if she is there it is for more publicity for her book.
I have some stats going back to 98.
1998 Total Pass Att: 622. Couch 601 and Mumme 21.
1999 Total Pass Att: 511. Bonner 508, Simon 2 and Smith 1.
2000 Total Pass Att: 564. Lorenzen 559, Perry 3, Bryan 1 and Team 1.
2001 Total Pass Att: 446. Lorenzen 292, Boyd 154
2007 Total Pass Att: 478. Woodson 468, Hartline 6, Fidler 0 and Team 4.
Just don't like how you had smith, whitlow, towles, and now Philips leaving. Coaching isn't what I expected it to be. Lack of qb development.
Smith, too many injuries, Whitlow should have never been a QB and he left because Stoops wanted him to play WR where he should have been, Phillips should have never been here to begin with IMO, and Towles had plenty of chances to be the man and he didn't take advantage. I don't think that is mismanagement.
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Of course you can't wait.....I mean you've posted all of 96 times since 2007. I think I smell a rotten cardinal.
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I think the "team" attempts are intentional spikes to stop the clock. IDK why they don't call it an attempt ... well, I do, but I don't necessarily agree with it.
Also, wasn't Pulley going to be the 08 starter until that summer? Or maybe it was the summer prior to that?
Curtis Pulley was due to be quarterback in 2007. (I think) and dismissed from the team for drug charges. Andrew Woodson was named starting QB. If I have the wrong year, please correct me.
Pulley won the job in spring practice and was supposed to start the 2006 season. However, Woodson put in enough extra effort to win the job back.
Pulley was a RS in 2007. Pulley was dismissed from the team on August 5, 2008, so Hartline & Cobb were both forced into a bad situation, having to play QB before either of them was really ready.
It's a real shame too, because that 2008 team could have been outstanding with Pulley (a true dual threat QB), Lyons, Cobb, Lanxter, McCaskill, Drake, Dixon, Locke, Smith, Allen & Connor all on O combined with what was likely Rich Brooks best defensive team (held opponents to 21.5 PPG).
After Pulley's FR season (2005), he won the starting QB job during spring practice (06). However, Woodson put in extra effort & won the job back before the 2006 season. During 2006, Pulley played back up QB, receiver and "kick blocker".
Pulley chose to RS the 2007 season.
Pulley was dismissed from the team on Aug 5, 2008. That forced Hartline and Cobb to play QB during the 2008 season.
Pulley went to FL A&M where he threw for 1,300+ yards (55% completions) and he ran for 800+ yards (7+ ypc) as the teams QB, during the 2008 season. He was a legit dual threat.
That same year (2008), the UK defense only allowed 21.5 PPG! Just imagine what could've been with Pulley, Cobb, Lyons, Lanxter, McCaskill, Dixon, Locke, Smith, Allen, Connor, Drake, etc., playing on the offense.
Ditto for 2009. Pulley threw for 1,800+ (60% completions) and he ran for over 800+ Yards (7+ YPC) as the teams QB.
Again, imagine Pulley paired with Locke & Cobb. Pulley could've run the wildcat with Locke running the jet sweep & with Cobb as a receiving option. Or spread out Pulley & let Cobb run the wildcat and use Pulley as a receiving option. Either way, it would have been a real nightmare for defenses. The wildcat with Cobb was pretty potent anyway.
Oh well... If's and but's.
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