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My two teams that I care about in Football: PSU and The Steelers. Great article on Behind the Steel Curtain Page that I read this morning about the Steelers using more power runs in their last game compared to zone runs. The article basically said that the Steelers used approximately 25% power runs versus 75% inside or outside zone runs in first 3 games but closer to 50/50 in game 4 their best run game.

PSU to my untrained eye seems to do better with the power runs, the zone run plays seem to be more passive than the power runs.....and that passivity or over thinking seems to be hurting this team.

Landon T. on his podcast thinks that PSU OL is missing an assistant coach (cannot remember his name), who was a crusty old OL Coach who when watching tape of PSU running zone would push everyone to not just run horizonally but to get verticle, take space from the DL. Landon felt like a little butt kicking in your face toughness call out is needed.

I hate Michigan but I do like their power running and play action offense.
 

BigBopper85

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Frank Leonard retired after last season. He reminded me of a drill instructor type, a get in your face coach. He would tear in to the lineman, I guess like the bad cop to Traut's good cop personality. I have thought that part of the struggles with the offensive line was losing Leonard, someone very few people even knew was on the coaching staff until he left
 

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I have been questioning(to myself and amongst friends when I talk PSU fball) the blocking schemes under Franklin for years now do not seem to work as we are always seeing penetration and TFLs. Sometimes they get lucky and we break a long run. We always seems to OL players make it to the pros even though the PSU OL seems to not open holes. To quote something from Remember the Titans "You can't just come in and expect to push everyone around in this league" which to me is what zone blocking is at times. Blocking angles opens holes better in my opinion and puts your OL in a better place to succeed. Where are the pulls? Haven't really noticed any this year but haven't been watching closely? Also, the PSU hype machine made a big deal about 71 pulling and making a kick out block on the DE last year at UCLA, however, they failed to mention the ball carrier didn't follow the block and cut it up inside too early, if he would have followed 71 and cut it up behind his block the ball carrier looks like he would have gained a lot more yardage. Are the RBs not given landmarks to aim for on plays and are just left to make the decision on their own?
 

DaytonRickster

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My two teams that I care about in Football: PSU and The Steelers. Great article on Behind the Steel Curtain Page that I read this morning about the Steelers using more power runs in their last game compared to zone runs. The article basically said that the Steelers used approximately 25% power runs versus 75% inside or outside zone runs in first 3 games but closer to 50/50 in game 4 their best run game.

PSU to my untrained eye seems to do better with the power runs, the zone run plays seem to be more passive than the power runs.....and that passivity or over thinking seems to be hurting this team.

Landon T. on his podcast thinks that PSU OL is missing an assistant coach (cannot remember his name), who was a crusty old OL Coach who when watching tape of PSU running zone would push everyone to not just run horizonally but to get verticle, take space from the DL. Landon felt like a little butt kicking in your face toughness call out is needed.

I hate Michigan but I do like their power running and play action offense.
I mentioned the loss of that coach a few weeks ago. Can't remember his name but I think that was the impetus for the OL improvement last year. I think the guy retired. This OL does not sustain blocks or get to the second level well, result is one of the main problems for this floundering offense. Someone needs to kick the backside of the OL starters for their lackluster effort/results.
 

PSUFTG

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Penn State's blocking of the outside zone this year has be laughably inept.

Basically ends up being:
"Five heavy guys sliding sideways, their bodies turned perpendicular to the line of scrimmage, in their own backfield. trying to lean sideways into defenders but getting knocked further into their own backfield." Most of the time, the result is clownish even when playing glorified JuCo teams like FIU, Nevada, and Villanova. Against quality teams? Ugh
It was not that bad last year - though even then it was not something they did well. How the staff could watch that week after week - and continue to run that play as often as they did - with ZERO indication of improvement - has been stunning.

They are not - have not been - overly proficient in their other schemes - but generally a hell of a lot better than with that outside zone. Are they just too slow and cumbersome up front to run outside zone? Is it a pure "talent" issue? Who knows - but it was not THIS bad last year (it wasn't good last year, but not this bad), with basically the same guys?.

One should fully expect PSU to put up big numbers in every aspect of the game on Saturday - UCLA may very well be the biggest dumpster fire mismatch of the season (even more so than Villanova). And again vs Northwestern.

But the offense in its current condition is no guarantee of success against even Iowa or Indiana - and certainly not OSU (MSU, Nebraska, and Rutgers are bad enough on defense that PSU should at least have reasonable offensive success).
Maybe things will improve in October and going forward. We will find out soon enough.

The huge propagandas coming into the 2025 season:

- PSU has a Round 1- Pick 1 draft pick at QB (That one was just laughable)
- PSU has the best two-headed monster tailback tandem in college football (Their best year was their freshman year. Since then, they have been more reminiscent of the 2020/21 backfield - some occasional glimmers, but mostly "meh").
- The PSU offensive line is going to dominate (While the dominating performance against Oregon in the B10 game was at least some justifiable glimmer of hope, the overwhelming body of evidence was not.)
- PSU recruited three top-end WR in the portal - that will solve the issues with the PSU pass game. (PSU picked up the #5 WR from the USC offense; a guy who's numbers may have looked promising - until you watched and realized those numbers came as a glorified wingback as the de-facto "run game" in a Warren Moon/Houston Oilers-esque Run-and-Shoot offense; and a G5 player who apparently had his punt return against Iowa running on a continuous loop in the dreams of the pumpers).

Lots of responsibility to be shared with the "sideline personnel" as well as the on-field personnel. But the end result is what it is, regardless of the responsibility or causes.

Hope is always a good thing - but ignoring reality doesn't help.
 

PSUForever

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My two teams that I care about in Football: PSU and The Steelers. Great article on Behind the Steel Curtain Page that I read this morning about the Steelers using more power runs in their last game compared to zone runs. The article basically said that the Steelers used approximately 25% power runs versus 75% inside or outside zone runs in first 3 games but closer to 50/50 in game 4 their best run game.

PSU to my untrained eye seems to do better with the power runs, the zone run plays seem to be more passive than the power runs.....and that passivity or over thinking seems to be hurting this team.

Landon T. on his podcast thinks that PSU OL is missing an assistant coach (cannot remember his name), who was a crusty old OL Coach who when watching tape of PSU running zone would push everyone to not just run horizonally but to get verticle, take space from the DL. Landon felt like a little butt kicking in your face toughness call out is needed.

I hate Michigan but I do like their power running and play action offense.
Our O-Line is complacent and has regressed. Came into the season overconfident. This is now a pivotal time to put up or shut up. We have to get physical and start blowing people off the line of scrimmage. Fundamental blocking at the point of attack. Both Kaytron and Nick need to gain over a hundred yards. We need to do this versus UCLA or probably will not happen against anyone.
 
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I have been questioning(to myself and amongst friends when I talk PSU fball) the blocking schemes under Franklin for years now do not seem to work as we are always seeing penetration and TFLs. Sometimes they get lucky and we break a long run. We always seems to OL players make it to the pros even though the PSU OL seems to not open holes. To quote something from Remember the Titans "You can't just come in and expect to push everyone around in this league" which to me is what zone blocking is at times. Blocking angles opens holes better in my opinion and puts your OL in a better place to succeed. Where are the pulls? Haven't really noticed any this year but haven't been watching closely? Also, the PSU hype machine made a big deal about 71 pulling and making a kick out block on the DE last year at UCLA, however, they failed to mention the ball carrier didn't follow the block and cut it up inside too early, if he would have followed 71 and cut it up behind his block the ball carrier looks like he would have gained a lot more yardage. Are the RBs not given landmarks to aim for on plays and are just left to make the decision on their own?

You have to keep gap integrity when you zone block - one guy driving a defender while another blocker stalls can blow the play up as the LBs and Pressing Safeties will get deep penetration through the gaps. Zone Blocking requires OL to act more-or-less as a "swinging gate" (very similar to a swinging-gate military maneuver).
 

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Penn State's blocking of the outside zone this year has be laughably inept.

Basically ends up being:
"Five heavy guys sliding sideways, their bodies turned perpendicular to the line of scrimmage, in their own backfield. trying to lean sideways into defenders but getting knocked further into their own backfield." Most of the time, the result is clownish even when playing glorified JuCo teams like FIU, Nevada, and Villanova. Against quality teams? Ugh
It was not that bad last year - though even then it was not something they did well. How the staff could watch that week after week - and continue to run that play as often as they did - with ZERO indication of improvement - has been stunning.

They are not - have not been - overly proficient in their other schemes - but generally a hell of a lot better than with that outside zone. Are they just too slow and cumbersome up front to run outside zone? Is it a pure "talent" issue? Who knows - but it was not THIS bad last year (it wasn't good last year, but not this bad), with basically the same guys?.

One should fully expect PSU to put up big numbers in every aspect of the game on Saturday - UCLA may very well be the biggest dumpster fire mismatch of the season (even more so than Villanova). And again vs Northwestern.

But the offense in its current condition is no guarantee of success against even Iowa or Indiana - and certainly not OSU (MSU, Nebraska, and Rutgers are bad enough on defense that PSU should at least have reasonable offensive success).
Maybe things will improve in October and going forward. We will find out soon enough.

The huge propagandas coming into the 2025 season:

- PSU has a Round 1- Pick 1 draft pick at QB (That one was just laughable)
- PSU has the best two-headed monster tailback tandem in college football (Their best year was their freshman year. Since then, they have been more reminiscent of the 2020/21 backfield - some occasional glimmers, but mostly "meh").
- The PSU offensive line is going to dominate (While the dominating performance against Oregon in the B10 game was at least some justifiable glimmer of hope, the overwhelming body of evidence was not.)
- PSU recruited three top-end WR in the portal - that will solve the issues with the PSU pass game. (PSU picked up the #5 WR from the USC offense; a guy who's numbers may have looked promising - until you watched and realized those numbers came as a glorified wingback as the de-facto "run game" in a Warren Moon/Houston Oilers-esque Run-and-Shoot offense; and a G5 player who apparently had his punt return against Iowa running on a continuous loop in the dreams of the pumpers).

Lots of responsibility to be shared with the "sideline personnel" as well as the on-field personnel. But the end result is what it is, regardless of the responsibility or causes.

Hope is always a good thing - but ignoring reality doesn't help.
Spot on!
 
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Navion N8865H

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"Five heavy guys sliding sideways, their bodies turned perpendicular to the line of scrimmage, in their own backfield. trying to lean sideways into defenders but getting knocked further into their own backfield." Most of the time, the result is clownish even when playing glorified JuCo teams like FIU, Nevada, and Villanova. Against quality teams? Ugh
Truer words have never been spoken. College offensive lines are all 300lbs+, trouble is they can't move. Pop in a tape of the 1989 Holiday Bowl, the line was around 275lb and actually fired off the ball moving forwards. Now, it's all about slides, trying to get to an outside zone, etc. All they do is wall off rather than actually try to drive a defensive player out of a spot. PSU line = unathletic.
 
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Truer words have never been spoken. College offensive lines are all 300lbs+, trouble is they can't move. Pop in a tape of the 1989 Holiday Bowl, the line was around 275lb and actually fired off the ball moving forwards. Now, it's all about slides, trying to get to an outside zone, etc. All they do is wall off rather than actually try to drive a defensive player out of a spot. PSU line = unathletic.
When I watch videos of the really good PSU teams in the 70s and 80s, those running games were things of beauty with the way everything was coordinated. I watched highlights of the 1977 Houston game several weeks ago, and not only did PSU have a great running game, but Chuck Fusina, who grew up a few miles from where I live, was a great college qb who had a quick release. Of course, I believe that the most beautiful football is a well-executed wishbone attack that required athletic o-linemen, but I was born in 1967.
 

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UCLA opponents:

UNLV: 148 yards rushing
New Mexico: 298 yards rushing
Northwestern: 199 yards rushing
Utah: 286 yards rushing

If Penn State fails to rush for 200+ yards against the Bruins, 10-2 ain't happening.
Every opponent will stack the LOS and force Allar to beat them. For some reason out own staff seemed surprised that Oregon did that.
 

PSUFTG

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Every opponent will stack the LOS and force Allar to beat them. For some reason out own staff seemed surprised that Oregon did that.
What will happen moving forward? IDK? But I doubt any capable defense will feel the need to "stack the LOS"

But, for sure, to date, no one. NO ONE. Has "stacked the LOS" vs PSU. They haven't had to. Oregon certainly didn't need to - and for the other three it didn't really matter (and even those dogmeat teams controlled the PSU run game reasonably well with basic sets).


FWIW:
PSU Tailback Run game-by-game:

Nevada:
26 carries for 94 yards
FIU:
29 for 220, but 67 of that was the one long run by Allen in the final minutes, after FIU was done playing. Otherwise, 28 for 153
Villanova:
31 for 174, but the biggest chunk was running 6 for 67 in the final minutes of the 4th quarter after Villanova was done, otherwise 25 for 107
Oregon:
23 for 75

Given the level of competition, every one of those efforts was a flat-out "fail"
 
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Frank Leonard retired after last season. He reminded me of a drill instructor type, a get in your face coach. He would tear in to the lineman, I guess like the bad cop to Traut's good cop personality. I have thought that part of the struggles with the offensive line was losing Leonard, someone very few people even knew was on the coaching staff until he left

I mentioned the loss of that coach a few weeks ago. Can't remember his name but I think that was the impetus for the OL improvement last year. I think the guy retired. This OL does not sustain blocks or get to the second level well, result is one of the main problems for this floundering offense. Someone needs to kick the backside of the OL starters for their lackluster effort/results.
Not to be that guy, but if he "retired" then why is he coaching for Nichols State?
 
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I have been questioning(to myself and amongst friends when I talk PSU fball) the blocking schemes under Franklin for years now do not seem to work as we are always seeing penetration and TFLs. Sometimes they get lucky and we break a long run. We always seems to OL players make it to the pros even though the PSU OL seems to not open holes. To quote something from Remember the Titans "You can't just come in and expect to push everyone around in this league" which to me is what zone blocking is at times. Blocking angles opens holes better in my opinion and puts your OL in a better place to succeed. Where are the pulls? Haven't really noticed any this year but haven't been watching closely? Also, the PSU hype machine made a big deal about 71 pulling and making a kick out block on the DE last year at UCLA, however, they failed to mention the ball carrier didn't follow the block and cut it up inside too early, if he would have followed 71 and cut it up behind his block the ball carrier looks like he would have gained a lot more yardage. Are the RBs not given landmarks to aim for on plays and are just left to make the decision on their own?
Look at Rasheed Walker and Will Fries, both of whom criticized by the fans while at PSU. Both 7th round picks in back to back years who are starting in GB and Minnesota. Fashanu starting for the Jets, but that's expected. Juice Scruggs, Hunter Norzad, Caeden Wallace all backups.
Nowhere near OSU as far as draftees, but there has been enough NFL talent to at least run over non-conference opponents.
 

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What will happen moving forward? IDK? But I doubt any capable defense will feel the need to "stack the LOS"

But, for sure, to date, no one. NO ONE. Has "stacked the LOS" vs PSU. They haven't had to. Oregon certainly didn't need to - and for the other three it didn't really matter (and even those dogmeat teams controlled the PSU run game reasonably well with basic sets).
Oregon LB Bryce Boettcher was in Allar's face all day. I seldom saw him dropping back into coverage.
 

PSUFTG

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Oregon LB Bryce Boettcher was in Allar's face all day. I seldom saw him dropping back into coverage.
He is their box (middle) linebacker. And, FWIW, I think a heck of a player. He's supposed to be involved in the run game. obviously :). The middle linebacker stuffing the run game isn't "stacking the LOS"

They certainly were not doing anything even unusual with him.
 

MacNit

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When I watch videos of the really good PSU teams in the 70s and 80s, those running games were things of beauty with the way everything was coordinated. I watched highlights of the 1977 Houston game several weeks ago, and not only did PSU have a great running game, but Chuck Fusina, who grew up a few miles from where I live, was a great college qb who had a quick release. Of course, I believe that the most beautiful football is a well-executed wishbone attack that required athletic o-linemen, but I was born in 1967.
And 1990s too!
 

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Given whatever issues are afflicting the OL so far this season, I say Kaytron should be getting most of the carries. He finds a way to pickup positive yardage and seems to have much better YAC so far. I think we'd have scored in that 2nd OT had he been given the ball. Would be interesting to see an I-formation with a FB lead blocking for him.
 

PSUForever

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What will happen moving forward? IDK? But I doubt any capable defense will feel the need to "stack the LOS"

But, for sure, to date, no one. NO ONE. Has "stacked the LOS" vs PSU. They haven't had to. Oregon certainly didn't need to - and for the other three it didn't really matter (and even those dogmeat teams controlled the PSU run game reasonably well with basic sets).


FWIW:
PSU Tailback Run game-by-game:

Nevada:
26 carries for 94 yards
FIU:
29 for 220, but 67 of that was the one long run by Allen in the final minutes, after FIU was done playing. Otherwise, 28 for 153
Villanova:
31 for 174, but the biggest chunk was running 6 for 67 in the final minutes of the 4th quarter after Villanova was done, otherwise 25 for 107
Oregon:
23 for 75

Given the level of competition, every one of those efforts was a flat-out "fail"
Let me preface by saying the OLine and run game has been sub par and certainly needs to improve. However, you are totally cherry picking to fit your narrative. You are simply excusing away big runs saying the defense gave up. What about the 4th quarter vs Oregon? We had some success, obviously. Will that be sustained? I don't know. However, it at least shows we have a pulse, some potential and some life. You are painting the picture that we are dead with no hopes of achieving a solid run game. I don't agree with that.
 

PSUFTG

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You are painting the picture that we are dead with no hopes of achieving a solid run game. I don't agree with that.
True. But I didn't say that. Who knows what happens moving forward? Hell, last year the TB run game sucked eggs as well - and then had the game against Oregon (a decent, not great run defense) where - as if by magic - they were moving people around and ripping off run after run. I certainly wouldn't count on that, but you never know.

I will say the run game has been pitiful. Because, it has been (and wasn't good for the bulk of 2023 or 2024 either). Given the level of competition played to date in 2025 - perhaps "pitiful" is a kind term. (And yes, I DO discount a 70 yard run in the final minutes of a payday game against an FCS level team. In fact, I would probably do more than "discount" it - I would likely totally disregard it as meaningless. If that is labelled as "cherry-picking", so be it. It is what it is.)
More importantly though, I believe what I see. And just about every facet of the offense has been ugly to watch - even in the payday games. I think most of the issues are, at this point, systemic (and unlikely to change much) - but THAT part is really just my educated opinion, certainly not a guarantee. Time will tell.
 

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True. But I didn't say that. Who knows what happens moving forward? Hell, last year the TB run game sucked eggs as well - and then had the game against Oregon (a decent, not great run defense) where - as if by magic - they were moving people around and ripping off run after run. I certainly wouldn't count on that, but you never know.

I will say the run game has been pitiful. Because, it has been (and wasn't good for the bulk of 2023 or 2024 either). Given the level of competition played to date in 2025 - perhaps "pitiful" is a kind term. (And yes, I DO discount a 70 yard run in the final minutes of a payday game against an FCS level team. In fact, I would probably do more than "discount" it - I would likely totally disregard it as meaningless. If that is labelled as "cherry-picking", so be it. It is what it is.)
More importantly though, I believe what I see. And just about every facet of the offense has been ugly to watch - even in the payday games. I think most of the issues are, at this point, systemic (and unlikely to change much) - but THAT part is really just my educated opinion, certainly not a guarantee. Time will tell.
The OLine improved last year. Versus Wisky 173, versus Washington 266, versus Minny, 117 (not good and 32 of that was the Reynolds run on the fake punt), versus Purdue 234, versus Maryland 219, versus Oregon 297, versus SMU 189, versus Boise State 216, versus ND 204. These are good rushing numbers and why there was so much optimism for this year. Now you are claiming the run game was not good for the "bulk of 2024". Maybe to start but not in the second half of the season. The point is this offensive line can be much better and therefore the run game can be better.
 
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The OLine improved last year. Versus Wisky 173, versus 266, versus Minny, 117 (not good and 32 of that was the Reynolds run on the fake punt), versus Purdue 234, versus Maryland 219, versus Oregon 297, versus SMU 189, versus Boise State 216, versus ND 204. These are good rushing numbers and why there was so much optimism for this year. Now you are claiming the run game was not good for the "bulk of 2024". Not correct we did we
That's what's so perplexing about their play so far this season. They were a very good o-line at the end of last season and in the playoffs, and that was without Donkoh from the Minny game forward. Moreover, they only lost one starter. I know that ND was banged up on the d-line, but our o-line physically dominated them, and really was the only reason why we should've won that game because the passing game was non-existent.

This season, that whole group seemingly has played in a daze. There's no cohesion, nothing. Often, you see the o-linemen running behind the backs instead of in front of them and/or not blocking anybody. I thought that Rucci played very well after Donkoh got hurt last season, but Donkoh probably should be moved back to right tackle and maybe split time with Rucci, and a true guard should take over the right guard position. Regardless, someone needs to light a fire under them or changes need to be made beginning yesterday.
 
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That's what's so perplexing about their play so far this season. They were a very good o-line at the end of last season and in the playoffs, and that was without Donkoh from the Minny game forward. I know that ND was banged up on the d-line, but our o-line physically dominated them, and really was the only reason why we should've won that game because the passing game was non-existent.

This season, that whole group seemingly has played in a daze. There's no cohesion, nothing. Often, you see the o-linemen running behind the backs instead of in front of them and/or not blocking anybody. I thought that Rucci played very well after Donkoh got hurt last season, but Donkoh probably should be moved back to right tackle and maybe split time with Rucci, and a true guard should take over the right guard position. Regardless, someone needs to light a fire under them or changes need to be made beginning yesterday.
Yep, the biggest head scratcher of the season. If we can play better on the O-Line that should solve a lot. Not everything but at least this should make Allar look better and our run game be better.
 

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Our O-Line is complacent and has regressed. Came into the season overconfident. This is now a pivotal time to put up or shut up. We have to get physical and start blowing people off the line of scrimmage. Fundamental blocking at the point of attack. Both Kaytron and Nick need to gain over a hundred yards. We need to do this versus UCLA or probably will not happen against anyone.
the was the most polite way to say that. Thus far our O-Line has been downright terrible. I am not even talking about Oregon. I am talking about the three cupcakes we played prior.
 

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That's what's so perplexing about their play so far this season. They were a very good o-line at the end of last season and in the playoffs, and that was without Donkoh from the Minny game forward. Moreover, they only lost one starter. I know that ND was banged up on the d-line, but our o-line physically dominated them, and really was the only reason why we should've won that game because the passing game was non-existent.

This season, that whole group seemingly has played in a daze. There's no cohesion, nothing. Often, you see the o-linemen running behind the backs instead of in front of them and/or not blocking anybody. I thought that Rucci played very well after Donkoh got hurt last season, but Donkoh probably should be moved back to right tackle and maybe split time with Rucci, and a true guard should take over the right guard position. Regardless, someone needs to light a fire under them or changes need to be made beginning yesterday.
The assistant OL (Leonard) is not here this year. Word is he was instrumental in the OL improvement and didn't tolerate bad play. Could be the loss of his influence is being felt.
 
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I mentioned the loss of that coach a few weeks ago. Can't remember his name but I think that was the impetus for the OL improvement last year. I think the guy retired. This OL does not sustain blocks or get to the second level well, result is one of the main problems for this floundering offense. Someone needs to kick the backside of the OL starters for their lackluster effort/results.
Did they forget what to do the instant he retired?