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Deaf in one ear. Apparently this directly lead to the Dead’s rehearsals being taped, a treasure trove. (He needed to listen closely.) We deaf are good adapters.
Pretty sure he was responsible for designing the Grateful Dead's "Wall of Sound" live sound system.

 

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Riffin off this.
"She Said She Said" by the Beatles was about an LSD experience in LA that was dampened by Peter Fonda who kept talking about his near death experience as a kid.

"Cassidy" by the Dead was of course about Neal Cassady, frequent subject of Jack Kerouac (and friend of Burroughs).

Also, by coincidence, Owsley Stanley made it into lyrics for a song that I am currently writing (metaphorically named "the night owl").


Lennon wrote the song during the Beatles' stay in India in response to the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi's alleged sexual advance on actress Mia Farrow.
 
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Nice one and that is my understanding as well. Great tune.
The whole White Album was written during that trip. Dear Prudence was about Mia's sister.
+1. Apparently Mia's sister wouldn't come out of her Bungalo, she wanted to achieve spiritual awareness before anyone else. LOL.
I always thought the White Album was one good editing away from being their best. George Martin let them get away with a little too much.
 
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I lived in Beam and my roommate once bought a new stereo set and tested the speakers by placing them next to my head while I slumbered unawares. He liked Blue Oyster Cult.
I also lived in Beam when they had an Arts and Architecture interest house. One of the best dorms. The first 2 floors were co-ed.
 

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+1. Apparently Mia's sister wouldn't come out of her Bungalo, she wanted to achieve spiritual awareness before anyone else. LOL.
I always thought the White Album was on good editing away from being their best. George Martin let them get away with a little too much.
Idle curiosity: can you name a Beatles album you think is particularly well edited?
 

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I'm thinking he meant that Martin should have made them cut a few songs (Little Piggies and Revolution #9 for example) from this album.

The Beatles and Martin were beyond innovative in the studio.
Yes there were a lot of "takes" that should have stayed on the cutting room floor.
for instance (the 2 that Grant named) and Wild Honey Pie, Mother Natures Son, Good Night are a few more.
 

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Kid Charlamagne by Steely Dan was about Owsley Stanley, a manufacturer and purveyor of LSD in the 1960s; his meteoric rise, and then the downfall. Steely Dan, of course, got their name from William S. Burrough's A Naked Lunch.

The Grateful Dead Song, Truckin' was about Stanley getting busted by the cops.
Yep, Steely Dan was a metal *****.
 

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Every song on that album speaks, but Natalie Merchant really sings it about child abuse.

Such an underrated group. I got into them near the end of high school right after Natalie had left. I always hoped that she'd get back together with them some day and go on tour but seems that it will never happen.
 

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Deep Purple: Smoke on The Water deranged fan shoots a flare gun at Zappa and band at the Montreux Casino causing it to burn to the ground.
 

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Thin Lizzy: Dancing in The Moonlight about Phil
Lynott’s heroin addiction.
 

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Pretty sure he was responsible for designing the Grateful Dead's "Wall of Sound" live sound system.

I know one of the trumpet players who played on Wake of the Flood and he played in front of wall of sound a couple times and he said was really unpleasant there was so much sound coming off main stacks. The whole idea was no stage monitors, so the band heard, was immersed in the true main mix. Some how would lead them to a better sound. That's why they needed the special out of phase micro phones. Dead apparently hated playing in front of it as well.
 

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Kid Charlamagne by Steely Dan
"Is there gas in the car? Yes, there's gas in the car..." Terrific song. Only the Dan could turn a lyric like that into solid gold.



"Just When I Needed You Most" by Randy Van Warmer is a fantastic song. It is said to be about a devastating breakup with his girlfriend (or possibly a breakdown of his car that he owned at the time), but I've also read that it is about the loss of his father in an automobile accident, when Van Warmer was a teenager. Certainly the lyrics suggest a girlfriend leaving, but they also make you consider the possibility of a young man whose father might be leaving home in a big hurry and he doesn't know (at the time) that it'll be the last time he sees him alive. I think of it this way mostly because of a friend who told me about his father killed in a truck accident on I-95 between Baltimore and Philadelphia, but I also think of a young man needing his father and having him leave, permanently, just when he needed him most - completing the journey into manhood.
 
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Sure Sgt. Peppers and Abbey Road are the first 2 that come to mind, especially the 2nd side of Abbey Road.
Revolver and Rubber Soul are my 2 favorites.
Abbey Road is The Beatles best, IMO. If not for Sticky Fingers, then I’d say it’s the best album ever.
 

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Such an underrated group. I got into them near the end of high school right after Natalie had left. I always hoped that she'd get back together with them some day and go on tour but seems that it will never happen.
Now they are called 9,999 Maniacs.
 
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This is a cool thread.
Filter: Hey Man, Nice Shot is about Pa State Treasurer, R Budd Dwyer, who committed suicide by handgun on live TV due to a plethora of illegal activities.



This is almost certainly about Kurt Cobain; no one sings 'I wish I would have met you...' about a state treasurer. I think Richard Patrick was trying to be clever here but yeah - no way.
 

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One of my favorite songs from the 90's is Shawn Colvin's 'Sunny Came Home.' It's an innocuous tune told in narrative form about a woman who comes back to her small town and burns it down. Either people never bothered to listen to the lyrics or just sang along because it's imminently hummable, but it's dark as f*ck.

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Sunny came home with a list of names
She didn't believe in transcendence
"And it's time for a few small repairs", she said
Sunny came home with a vengeance

She says, "Days go by, I don't know why
I'm walking on a wire
I close my eyes and fly out of my mind
Into the fire"

Get the kids and bring a sweater
Dry is good and wind is better
Count the years, you always knew it
Strike a match, go on and do it


"Oh, days go by, I'm hypnotized
I'm walking on a wire
I close my eyes and fly out of my mind
Into the fire"


 
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This is a cool thread.


This is almost certainly about Kurt Cobain; no one sings 'I wish I would have met you...' about a state treasurer. I think Richard Patrick was trying to be clever here but yeah - no way.
The song was written about the public suicide of Pennsylvania state treasurer R. Budd Dwyer on January 22, 1987, in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. Dwyer had been convicted of bribery charges in December 1986, and was expected to receive a lengthy sentence from U.S. District Court JudgeMalcolm Muir. Professing his innocence and decrying the legal system, Dwyer shot and killed himself with a .357 Magnum revolver during a live televised press conference.[7]

The bridge of Marilyn Manson's "Get Your Gunn" (1994) includes audio from the press conference where Dwyer shot himself, including the sound of the gunshot that killed him.[8][9] When Marilyn Manson sampled the audio of Dwyer's suicide, Filter's Richard Patrick heard the sample and was excited by it; Manson believes that this interaction inspired Patrick to write "Hey Man Nice Shot." Reflecting on the sample, Manson said "He wouldn't have even heard it if I didn't play it.... I don't like him very much. He bothers me."[8]

Although Patrick frequently clarified this in interviews, as well as the fact that he had first written the song in 1991 before the band even had a record deal, the song's popularity was augmented by a widespread perception that it was about the 1994 suicide of Kurt Cobain.[7][10][11]
 
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The song was written about the public suicide of Pennsylvania state treasurer R. Budd Dwyer on January 22, 1987, in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. Dwyer had been convicted of bribery charges in December 1986, and was expected to receive a lengthy sentence from U.S. District Court JudgeMalcolm Muir. Professing his innocence and decrying the legal system, Dwyer shot and killed himself with a .357 Magnum revolver during a live televised press conference.[7]

The bridge of Marilyn Manson's "Get Your Gunn" (1994) includes audio from the press conference where Dwyer shot himself, including the sound of the gunshot that killed him.[8][9] When Marilyn Manson sampled the audio of Dwyer's suicide, Filter's Richard Patrick heard the sample and was excited by it; Manson believes that this interaction inspired Patrick to write "Hey Man Nice Shot." Reflecting on the sample, Manson said "He wouldn't have even heard it if I didn't play it.... I don't like him very much. He bothers me."[8]

Although Patrick frequently clarified this in interviews, as well as the fact that he had first written the song in 1991 before the band even had a record deal, the song's popularity was augmented by a widespread perception that it was about the 1994 suicide of Kurt Cobain.[7][10][11]

Yeah, I know all this - but, don't believe it :). Additional fun fact - Marilyn Manson's 'Get Your Gunn' is about the murder of Dr. David Gunn, who was an abortion provider, by an anti-abortion activist.
 

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I know one of the trumpet players who played on Wake of the Flood and he played in front of wall of sound a couple times and he said was really unpleasant there was so much sound coming off main stacks. The whole idea was no stage monitors, so the band heard, was immersed in the true main mix. Some how would lead them to a better sound. That's why they needed the special out of phase micro phones. Dead apparently hated playing in front of it as well.

I despise the sound of those out-of-phase mics.
 

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Soul Man - the song by Sam and Dave and later popularized by The Blues Brothers - is about some of the racial issues in Memphis in the late 1960s.

Soul was a term written on a paper and hung on a window to indicate a business was sympathetic to the issues and to keep from having their business attacked in the event of a riot. From that- Isaac Hayes wrote Soul Man
 
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Boomtown Rats - "I don't like Mondays." About a youg female shooter who shot up a playgound in California. When asked why, she told the police, "I don't like Mondays."
 

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Aerosmith's "Sweet Emotion" was based in part on a feud going on between the wives of the members of the band.
 
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Kurt fascinates me
In a 1992 interview with California fanzine Flipside, Cobain explained that the song was a fictionalized account of a man who "turned to religion as a last resort to keep himself alive" after the death of his girlfriend, "to keep him from suicide."
 
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Would have thought this one would have already been mentioned. End of childhood or …?
 

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How about a music thread focusing on songs without easily recognizable meanings. Such as this one from Stephen Stills - “Do for the others”. When David Crosby lost his fiancee Christine Hinton in a tragic car accident in 1969, he went into deep depression and increased drug usage. Song was meant to be a wakeup call for Croz.





'Round, 'round, up and down
All along the lonely town
See him sinkin' low
Doesn't see the joy there is to know
And he cries from the misery
And he lies singing harmony
She is gone, there is no tomorrow
It is done, so now he must borrow
The life of his brothers
And living in sorrow must do for the others
A chill wind hits his face
Was that a tear I thought I saw a trace?
Loving people everywhere
Where is she? She is not there
And he cries from the misery
And he lies singing harmony
She is gone, there is no tomorrow
It is done, so now he must borrow
The life of his brothers
And living in sorrow must do for the others



the song that got the Smothers Brothers cancelled...............
 
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This is a beautiful song but the lyrics have puzzled me for years. What is the Ripple? 'Ripple in still water, where there is no pebble tossed, nor wind to blow'. If the ripple is not caused by a physical object like a rock nor a form of energy like the wind what causes it? It has to be a supernatural force. Then it occurred to me, the singer is the ripple, perhaps a person who has passed away singing to someone in the real world. When the ripple appears it is a sign that I am here watching over you. And while there are messages I can share like that of a higher power 'Let it be known, there is a fountain that was not made by the hands of man', in the end I can only do so much because your life and your decisions are yours alone to make 'And if you go no one may follow, That path is for your steps alone'.

At least that's what I got out of it.

If my words did glow
With the gold of sunshine
And my tunes were played
On the harp unstrung
Would you hear my voice
Come through the music?
Would you hold it near
As it were your own?
There is a road, no simple highway
Between the dawn and the dark of night
And if you go, no one may follow
That path is for your steps alone
Ripple in still water
When there is no pebble tossed
Nor wind to blow
It's a hand-me-down
The thoughts are broken
Perhaps they're better left unsung
I don't know, don't really care
Let there be songs to fill the air
Ripple in still water
When there is no pebble tossed
Nor wind to blow
You who choose to lead must follow
But if you fall, you fall alone
If you should stand then who's to guide you?
If I knew the way I would take you home
 

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This is a beautiful song but the lyrics have puzzled me for years. What is the Ripple? 'Ripple in still water, where there is no pebble tossed, nor wind to blow'. If the ripple is not caused by a physical object like a rock nor a form of energy like the wind what causes it? It has to be a supernatural force. Then it occurred to me, the singer is the ripple, perhaps a person who has passed away singing to someone in the real world. When the ripple appears it is a sign that I am here watching over you. And while there are messages I can share like that of a higher power 'Let it be known, there is a fountain that was not made by the hands of man', in the end I can only do so much because your life and your decisions are yours alone to make 'And if you go no one may follow, That path is for your steps alone'.

At least that's what I got out of it.

If my words did glow
With the gold of sunshine
And my tunes were played
On the harp unstrung
Would you hear my voice
Come through the music?
Would you hold it near
As it were your own?
There is a road, no simple highway
Between the dawn and the dark of night
And if you go, no one may follow
That path is for your steps alone
Ripple in still water
When there is no pebble tossed
Nor wind to blow
It's a hand-me-down
The thoughts are broken
Perhaps they're better left unsung
I don't know, don't really care
Let there be songs to fill the air
Ripple in still water
When there is no pebble tossed
Nor wind to blow
You who choose to lead must follow
But if you fall, you fall alone
If you should stand then who's to guide you?
If I knew the way I would take you home

if you want to understand Ripple all you have to do is watch this........

 
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This is a beautiful song but the lyrics have puzzled me for years. What is the Ripple? 'Ripple in still water, where there is no pebble tossed, nor wind to blow'. If the ripple is not caused by a physical object like a rock nor a form of energy like the wind what causes it? It has to be a supernatural force. Then it occurred to me, the singer is the ripple, perhaps a person who has passed away singing to someone in the real world. When the ripple appears it is a sign that I am here watching over you. And while there are messages I can share like that of a higher power 'Let it be known, there is a fountain that was not made by the hands of man', in the end I can only do so much because your life and your decisions are yours alone to make 'And if you go no one may follow, That path is for your steps alone'.

At least that's what I got out of it.

If my words did glow
With the gold of sunshine
And my tunes were played
On the harp unstrung
Would you hear my voice
Come through the music?
Would you hold it near
As it were your own?
There is a road, no simple highway
Between the dawn and the dark of night
And if you go, no one may follow
That path is for your steps alone
Ripple in still water
When there is no pebble tossed
Nor wind to blow
It's a hand-me-down
The thoughts are broken
Perhaps they're better left unsung
I don't know, don't really care
Let there be songs to fill the air
Ripple in still water
When there is no pebble tossed
Nor wind to blow
You who choose to lead must follow
But if you fall, you fall alone
If you should stand then who's to guide you?
If I knew the way I would take you home

there is a defunct site on the old internet now only available through way back machine that had in depth analyses of Grateful Dead songs, hosted on UC Santa Cruz library web site. Here is their analysis of Ripple. Also a nostalgic look at what the internet and interfaces used to look like!!