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<strong>Saturday Big 12 games

#13 (I thought it was #11/#12) West Virginia at Oklahoma, a rare sub-.500 in Big 12 games this season. 2 pm, ESPNU. For Huggins Heroes a tuneup for the brutal double-dipping against Kansas and Baylor.

#3 Kansas at TCU, another 4-5 team after being the ONLY Big 12 team to lose to Kansas State this season, noon, ESPN2.

Texas Tech, better than its 5-4 Big 12 record I think, at Texas. 4 pm, ESPN2.

Oklahoma State enters the Waco whipping-arena of #1 Baylor. 6 pm, ESPN2.

Kansas State at Iowa State as both attempt to stay ahead of Oklahoma State in Big 12 standings. 8 pm, ESPN2.
 

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We dropped to 13 after the new rankings came out Sunday.

Oklahoma and WVU are the only 2 teams to lose to KSU (2-7) in conference.

Kansas will put a beat down on TCU.

Texas Tech is nowhere near as good as last years team. The 5-4 is about where they should be. Perhaps they should be 6-3.

Oklahoma State fresh off a 1 game win streak. Hope they got a lot of enjoyment from that win. They have 5 straight losses coming up.

KSU vs ISU battle for for 9th. Kansas State is better than their 2-7 record. This is another match up for ISU that is not good news. ISU a poor defensive team and rebounding team facing another good defensive team and strong offensive board and overall rebounding team. ISU is going to find themselves in a fight for this one. Oh wait probably poor choice of words on that one.

 
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We dropped to 13 after the new rankings came out Sunday.

Oklahoma and WVU are the only 2 teams to lose to KSU (2-7) in conference.

Kansas will put a beat down on TCU.

Texas Tech is nowhere near as good as last years team. The 5-4 is about where they should be. Perhaps they should be 6-3.

Oklahoma State fresh off a 1 game win streak. Hope they got a lot of enjoyment from that win. They have 5 straight losses coming up.

KSU vs ISU battle for for 9th. Kansas State is better than their 2-7 record. This is another match up for ISU that is not good news. ISU a poor defensive team and rebounding team facing another good defensive team and strong offensive board and overall rebounding team. ISU is going to find themselves in a fight for this one. Oh wait probably poor choice of words on that one.

Good analysis. Thanks for straightening me out about the #13/ #12 / #11 confusion on my part. Hard to keep up, I guess.
 

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Hey quick question Eers? How many Big12 teams are in the Coaches Top 25 poll? How many teams in the Top 40? I remember some polls that had 6 ACC teams in Top 25. I remember some polls that had 6 Big Ten teams in Top 25. 3 teams in the Top 25 and 4 teams in the top 40 is pedestrian at best. Meatgrider discussion here is not reality. There are 3 good teams, 2 solid teams and who cares about the rest.
 

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Hey quick question Eers? How many Big12 teams are in the Coaches Top 25 poll? How many teams in the Top 40? I remember some polls that had 6 ACC teams in Top 25. I remember some polls that had 6 Big Ten teams in Top 25. 3 teams in the Top 25 and 4 teams in the top 40 is pedestrian at best. Meatgrider discussion here is not reality. There are 3 good teams, 2 solid teams and who cares about the rest.

Big 12 - 3
Baylor #1
Kansas #2
WVU #11

ACC - 3
Louisville #5
Duke #7
FSU #8

BIG 10 - 5
Maryland #9
Michigan St. #14
Iowa #17
PSU #20
Illinois #21

Top 40 crap I didn't bother looking up.
 

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Hey quick question Eers? How many Big12 teams are in the Coaches Top 25 poll? How many teams in the Top 40? I remember some polls that had 6 ACC teams in Top 25. I remember some polls that had 6 Big Ten teams in Top 25. 3 teams in the Top 25 and 4 teams in the top 40 is pedestrian at best. Meatgrider discussion here is not reality. There are 3 good teams, 2 solid teams and who cares about the rest.

Thanks Douche.
 

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Big 12 - 3
Baylor #1
Kansas #2
WVU #11

ACC - 3
Louisville #5
Duke #7
FSU #8

BIG 10 - 5
Maryland #9
Michigan St. #14
Iowa #17
PSU #20
Illinois #21

Top 40 crap I didn't bother looking up.


The NCAAs care about top 40. You know my point Allen. For all of the Big12 circle jerk going on here the reality Big12 football is a joke and Big12 basketball is pedestrian. Just another conference with a couple teams that can threaten big runs into the Final Four.

Disclaimer: ACC sucks this year.
 

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The NCAAs care about top 40. You know my point Allen. For all of the Big12 circle jerk going on here the reality Big12 football is a joke and Big12 basketball is pedestrian. Just another conference with a couple teams that can threaten big runs into the Final Four.

Disclaimer: ACC sucks this year.
Yea 3 out of 15 teams would set a new standard of suckage for those who in the first week were claiming what a beast the ACC is this year. Of course that same troll was blasting our football coach for recruiting rankings mid way through the season. If one league gets 50% of their teams in the dance and the other gets 20% of their teams in, which would be considered pedestrian?

Disclaimer: Greg is not very knowledgeable about sports. LOL
 

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Yea 3 out of 15 teams would set a new standard of suckage for those who in the first week were claiming what a beast the ACC is this year. Of course that same troll was blasting our football coach for recruiting rankings mid way through the season. If one league gets 50% of their teams in the dance and the other gets 20% of their teams in, which would be considered pedestrian?

Disclaimer: Greg is not very knowledgeable about sports. LOL


I’m royalty here part timer. I was being nice because I can tell Allen is a solid dude. I can take his abuse that he beats me up with because I know he’s solid. You on the other hand are a legit geek old man from the foothills of WV haha. As of now I think there are 4 Big12 teams in the NET top 60. Mic drop geek.

Mid way through recruiting the class looked like it was in trouble. Turned out to be really good class for a middle of the pack program that usually recruits 34-44 or worse sometimes. Now remember homer last year really was a very poor year. So I’m impressed with how Brown ended the year then finished off the class but time will tell.

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Plus my kid got a look and it would have been a dream come true for our family. I will always be a fan of Brown and wish him well. He didn’t have to talk with my son in Nashville at the convention because he’s young but he did. Gave him some great advice. Ya never know boys.
 
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I’m royalty here part timer. I was being nice because I can tell Allen is a solid dude. I can take his abuse that he beats me up with because I know he’s solid. You on the other hand are a legit geek old man from the foothills of WV haha. As of now I think there are 4 Big12 teams in the NET top 60. Mic drop geek.

Mid way through recruiting the class looked like it was in trouble. Turned out to be really good class for a middle of the pack program that usually recruits 34-44 or worse sometimes. Now remember homer last really was a very poor year. So I’m impressed with how Brown ended the year then finished off the class but time will tell.

@WVUALLEN
Plus my kid got a look and it would have been a dream come true for or family. I will always be a fan of Brown and wish him well. He didn’t have to talk with my son in Nashville at the convention because he’s young but he did. Gave him some great advice. Ya never know boys.
LOL the highlight of your life, message board troll royalty. Joe Lunardi has 5 in. Just calling you out on being the biggest conference homer who posts on this board. You are clown that thinks he is royalty. Sad when you think about it.
 

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LOL the highlight of your life, message board troll royalty. Joe Lunardi has 5 in. Just calling you out on being the biggest conference homer who posts on this board. You are clown that thinks he is royalty. Sad when you think about it.

Royalty means being the court jester in his eyes.
 

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LOL the highlight of your life, message board troll royalty. Joe Lunardi has 5 in. Just calling you out on being the biggest conference homer who posts on this board. You are clown that thinks he is royalty. Sad when you think about it.


My ***** haha. Triggered by a single word. I am the King!!!

Wow! 5 whole teams in :joy:
 
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Hey quick question Eers? How many Big12 teams are in the Coaches Top 25 poll? How many teams in the Top 40? I remember some polls that had 6 ACC teams in Top 25. I remember some polls that had 6 Big Ten teams in Top 25. 3 teams in the Top 25 and 4 teams in the top 40 is pedestrian at best. Meatgrider discussion here is not reality. There are 3 good teams, 2 solid teams and who cares about the rest.
The NCAAs care about top 40. You know my point Allen. For all of the Big12 circle jerk going on here the reality Big12 football is a joke and Big12 basketball is pedestrian. Just another conference with a couple teams that can threaten big runs into the Final Four.

Disclaimer: ACC sucks this year.
Big 12 football is a joke and Big12 basketball is pedestrian.

How can someone be so wrong twice? Blind monkeys throwing darts can do better. 3 of the top 4 defensive teams in the country are in the Big 12: Baylor, Kansas and WVU.
 

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Big 12 football is a joke and Big12 basketball is pedestrian.

How can someone be so wrong twice? Blind monkeys throwing darts can do better. 3 of the top 4 defensive teams in the country are in the Big 12: Baylor, Kansas and WVU.

I would like to see this ranking and what it pertains to. Overall defense or just percentage on FG.
 

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2020 Pomeroy College Basketball Ratings

https://kenpom.com/

1. Kansas - in
3. Baylor - in
7. WVU - in
22. Texas Tech - in
49. Oklahoma - needs work but could get as 11 or 12 seed.
65. Texas - first 4 out
74. ISU - no
78. TCU - no
79. Oklahoma State - no
86. Kansas State - no
 

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My ***** haha. Triggered by a single word. I am the King!!!

Wow! 5 whole teams in :joy:
It's amazing to be gone for six weeks, come back with a fresh look at the board and see how ******* ridiculous your ******** really is.

How long you going to play your shitstain routine out?

You do realize that this free board is dying because of you?

I mean...look at the influx of new people coming to the free board every day.....LMAO....if Allen left it would be you and your two cucks...

You worthless fuckstick...enjoy the board!
 

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Solid exchange in this thread, an away win Saturday could go far.

IMO, until we can prove that we are a force on the road, we will not be seen as a true national threat by most around the country. Most people know we can play D, but until we prove that we can play O on the road, it is what it is. A top 20 team, but not a top 10 one.
 

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2020 Pomeroy College Basketball Ratings

https://kenpom.com/

1. Kansas - in
3. Baylor - in
7. WVU - in
22. Texas Tech - in
49. Oklahoma - needs work but could get as 11 or 12 seed.
65. Texas - first 4 out
74. ISU - no
78. TCU - no
79. Oklahoma State - no
86. Kansas State - no
The NET rankings matter most, so here they are for the Big 12 and B1G for now:

2. Baylor 9. Maryland
4. Kansas 12. Michigan State
10. WVU 16. Ohio State
25. Texas Tech 20. Penn State
58. Oklahoma 27. Rutgers
62. Texas 29. Purdue
73. TCU 30. Iowa
74. Iowa State 34. Illinois
78. Oklahoma State 35. Michigan
81. Kansas State 36. Wisconsin
42. Minnesota
50. Indiana
154. Northwestern
170. Nebraska

Conclusions: The Big 12 is better at the top and has no truly awful teams, but the B1G is far deeper of a conference with 12 teams in the Top 50, as compared to only 4 Big 12 teams in the Top 50.
 

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Big 12 football is a joke and Big12 basketball is pedestrian.

How can someone be so wrong twice? Blind monkeys throwing darts can do better. 3 of the top 4 defensive teams in the country are in the Big 12: Baylor, Kansas and WVU.
"Blind monkeys" also would argue that having three highly ranked defensive teams in one conference would equate to conference superiority.
 

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The NET rankings matter most, so here they are for the Big 12 and B1G for now:

2. Baylor 9. Maryland
4. Kansas 12. Michigan State
10. WVU 16. Ohio State
25. Texas Tech 20. Penn State
58. Oklahoma 27. Rutgers
62. Texas 29. Purdue
73. TCU 30. Iowa
74. Iowa State 34. Illinois
78. Oklahoma State 35. Michigan
81. Kansas State 36. Wisconsin
42. Minnesota
50. Indiana
154. Northwestern
170. Nebraska

Conclusions: The Big 12 is better at the top and has no truly awful teams, but the B1G is far deeper of a conference with 12 teams in the Top 50, as compared to only 4 Big 12 teams in the Top 50.

I don't deny that. BIG 10 will get at least 10 teams in. Big 12 will get 4 and slight possibility of a 5th.
 
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IMO, until we can prove that we are a force on the road, we will not be seen as a true national threat by most around the country. Most people know we can play D, but until we prove that we can play O on the road, it is what it is. A top 20 team, but not a top 10 one.
Hell, the way top 10 and top 20 teams are being toppled by unranked teams this season (near 80 games by now, I think) it's tough to keep track of which teams ARE top 10 or top 20. It's a game by game week by week thing, so why should WVU be immune? I LOVE Huggins Heroes and their Pitbull Defense. It's a very young team, but a lot older today than it was before the season opener. By March Madness, who knows? Hell, even Vegas will give only 22-1 odds on WVU winning it all. Maybe the money has more faith in the Mountaineers than some WVU fans?
 

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It's amazing to be gone for six weeks, come back with a fresh look at the board and see how ****ing ridiculous your ******** really is.

How long you going to play your shitstain routine out?

You do realize that this free board is dying because of you?

I mean...look at the influx of new people coming to the free board every day.....LMAO....if Allen left it would be you and your two cucks...

You worthless ****stick...enjoy the board!

 
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We shouldn't be in any national rankings because whenever we play on the road we're exposed. We play like a bad junior high team, and that might be an insult to bad junior high teams.
 
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WVU misses more shots within 5 feet in the history of basketball.

Oklahoma did better than WVU in field goal percentage, 3’s percentage, free throws percentage, rebounding, assists and, most important, points.


Pretty convincing case of the team that plays better wins the game.


WVU faces the prospect of a 2-game losing streak for the first time this season with Kansas next. And then Baylor, so 0-3 run is possible.

Oklahoma’s Doolittle, who has been averaging 7 points in recent games, scores 27.

WVU shoots only 8 free throws to 21 for Oklahoma.

Oscar and Haley are the ONLY Mountaineers in double figures.

It was a massive clusterflub!

But I STILL LOVE this team! Let’s see if Huggins Heroes can rise from the ashes!

I will ALWAYS prefer a thumbs-up to a middle finger reaction!
 

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We shouldn't be in any national rankings because whenever we play on the road we're exposed. We play like a bad junior high team, and that might be an insult to bad junior high teams.

Sad thing is we're not even trying and only lose by 10. Just think what would happen if we put in an effort.
 
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Not fair. WVU WAS trying. Just didn't have it today.
Oklahoma, a middling team, made Huggins Heroes play the way they did against Oklahoma State the first time.
About 90 ranked teams have lost this year. We can all live with an L.

But this was abysmal.

Let's see what happens against Kansas and Baylor. Two major hurdles for a very, very young team that has NOT lost 2 games in a row this season … so far.

But I'l stick with a thumbs-up, for my alma mater's team, not the way they played today, rather than a middle finger.

I can't wait till Wednesday when Kansas comes to Morgantown!

Time for a resurrection of the Pitbull Defense, hot shooting hands, dominating rebounding and excellent ball-handling! You know, that helped win 18 games this season.
 

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They were cruising and paying no attention. They took 76 SHOTS! How do you lose taking 76 shots. I'll tell you, by missing 2 foot shots under your own rim because their to lazy to use the glass. It's not sexy enough shot for them.
 

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It's amazing to be gone for six weeks, come back with a fresh look at the board and see how ****ing ridiculous your ******** really is.

How long you going to play your shitstain routine out?

You do realize that this free board is dying because of you?

I mean...look at the influx of new people coming to the free board every day.....LMAO....if Allen left it would be you and your two cucks...

You worthless ****stick...enjoy the board!


Oh God the dipshitt is back haha. This board is vibrant and as solid as it’s ever been. I actually spend most of my half hour on Lot. When are you gonna spend $100 for a Lot Acct geek?