Sounds like a terror attack strikes France again

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Friday night high school football game at Pulaski, Tennessee.....the list is endless
Noted Steve. I suspect the outcome in Tennessee would be similar to Garland Texas for the Muslim terrorists.
 

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One more thing for posters like Chase. We are not happy this happened, in fact, I am pissed. The point people are making is that we are tired of this and know what is coming from the left because, it happens everytime. Tell me this, when will the left wake up and take a stand that will help unite us instead of divide us on this issue?
 
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Seriously, even liberals like Bill Maher has continually called out the left for being regressive as they won't utter the phrase extremist islam, how even as hes a non religious person it's not Christians blowing **** up, how they won't encourage other Muslims to take a stance against the extremism, or how the so called equality party gives a pass to people who oppresse women/gays/etc. He's even been booed on his own show for saying it.
 

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The Eiffel Tower is on fire. Who knows if its 100% related to the terror attack, but Isis has been putting in its videos images of the Eiffel tower being destroyed.
 

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Reporting that the eiffel tower fire is an accident involving a truck loaded with fireworks , it's been put out .
 

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While perusing this thread, I am reminded of the Will Durant quote, "A great society is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within."

We need not fear ISIS. Our own are playing out the parts what passes for today's journalism has set for us.
 
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The truth is, those on the left that are blasting people on here for stating the obvious are not as sympathetic as they claim. They don't really care what has happened to these people. Their real concern is that this will hurt Hillary's chances. Once Hillary is elected, they could care less. Their agendas will continue to be pushed. We can only hope enough will wake up before total chaos destroys this country.
 

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It's a problem that your group doesn't want to fix and refuses to acknowledge. You ever wonder why Japan doesn't experience this crap?

The PC BS needs to stop.

You really think terminology has an effect? That's nonsense. Politically inspired nonsense.

On a practical level what do you think should be done? Declare war on 1/5th of the planet? We're currently bombing ISIS to such an extent that we're in danger of running out of the kind of ordnance used. Do you really think an American president's insults would deter a single person? Why would you degrade the office and abandon moral authority by doing it?
 

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I find it comical that so many of you just assume I'm some left wing nut job. In an ideal world I'd love to round up every Islamic extremist in the entire world and drive a GD stake threw their foreheads. But that's not practical, and I'm not willing to think or act as if every Muslim in the world is on a mission to murder me. The world is not black and white, it's filled almost entirely with gray.

What is so incredibly repulsive about some of you is that you don't stop for half a second to consider the loss of life, and appreciate the gravity of it. You just can't wait to get furious at liberals, to scream about your stance on gun control, to blame Obama. You offer zero solutions other than parroting whatever right wing talk show host you finger yourself to on your drive to work. It's nauseating and embarrassing as a fellow American.
 

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I find it comical that so many of you just assume I'm some left wing nut job. In an ideal world I'd love to round up every Islamic extremist in the entire world and drive a GD stake threw their foreheads. But that's not practical, and I'm not willing to think or act as if every Muslim in the world is on a mission to murder me. The world is not black and white, it's filled almost entirely with gray.

What is so incredibly repulsive about some of you is that you don't stop for half a second to consider the loss of life, and appreciate the gravity of it. You just can't wait to get furious at liberals, to scream about your stance on gun control, to blame Obama. You offer zero solutions other than parroting whatever right wing talk show host you finger yourself to on your drive to work. It's nauseating and embarrassing as a fellow American.
What do you want? You came to a discussion forum. Did you want to read through 5 pages of "#prayfornice"? And "thoughts and prayers with the citizens of Nice, what a horrible tragedy".

That. Doesn't. Do. Anything. We #prayed for Belgium. We #prayed for Orlando. We #prayed for San Bernadinho. We #prayed for Rotterdam. We #prayed for Fort Hood. We #prayed for Paris.
Should we just keep lamenting radical Islamism? Welcome it as an inevitable?
 

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I in the countryind it comical that so many of you just assume I'm some left wing nut job. In an ideal world I'd love to round up every Islamic extremist in the entire world and drive a GD stake threw their foreheads. But that's not practical, and I'm not willing to think or act as if every Muslim in the world is on a mission to murder me. The world is not black and white, it's filled almost entirely with gray.

What is so incredibly repulsive about some of you is that you don't stop for half a second to consider the loss of life, and appreciate the gravity of it. You just can't wait to get furious at liberals, to scream about your stance on gun control, to blame Obama. You offer zero solutions other than parroting whatever right wing talk show host you finger yourself to on your drive to work. It's nauseating and embarrassing as a fellow American.
You can stop a lot of this by not allowing them in to the country until each and every one of them is vetted completely. Time consuming? Yes. Necessary? Absolutely
 

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I find it comical that so many of you just assume I'm some left wing nut job. In an ideal world I'd love to round up every Islamic extremist in the entire world and drive a GD stake threw their foreheads. But that's not practical, and I'm not willing to think or act as if every Muslim in the world is on a mission to murder me. The world is not black and white, it's filled almost entirely with gray.

What is so incredibly repulsive about some of you is that you don't stop for half a second to consider the loss of life, and appreciate the gravity of it. You just can't wait to get furious at liberals, to scream about your stance on gun control, to blame Obama. You offer zero solutions other than parroting whatever right wing talk show host you finger yourself to on your drive to work. It's nauseating and embarrassing as a fellow American.

Is it ok to be comical now? I jumped the gun. Who knew Chase was the timekeeper?
 
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What I found comical and what you found comical were not remotely close to the same things. Being a deliberately dense ***** suits you though.
 

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You can stop a lot of this by not allowing them in to the country until each and every one of them is vetted completely. Time consuming? Yes. Necessary? Absolutely
 

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100% fine with not opening the floodgates. If you want to live in this country you need to assimilate in a reasonable manner and submit to background checks to whatever degree is requested. You can come to this country, but you must abide by certain conditions in order to get here. Nothing at all wrong with that, IMO.
 

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What I found comical and what you found comical were not remotely close to the same things. Being a deliberately dense ***** suits you though.

One last time....I could not care less about what you think of me. You finding me repulsive gives me hope. You are a douche sir.
 

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You can stop a lot of this by not allowing them in to the country until each and every one of them is vetted completely. Time consuming? Yes. Necessary? Absolutely

Curious though, what does that solve? They said earlier, it's far easier to find another method to get here than go through a refugee camp, get selected in basically a lottery to be sent to the US (apparnently they apply through the UN and are allocated to countries), and then be "followed" by surveillance the entire time (albeit maybe not to the degree most hope for). Think it's being naive to believe that would stop an attack, considering that's the method being watched most, and basically a very random draw to even be sent to the US. Not saying I agree with it, but maybe that shouldn't be our focus of how individuals are entering this country. Oh wait... Political agendas.
 

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Curious though, what does that solve? They said earlier, it's far easier to find another method to get here than go through a refugee camp, get selected in basically a lottery to be sent to the US (apparnently they apply through the UN and are allocated to countries), and then be "followed" by surveillance the entire time (albeit maybe not to the degree most hope for). Think it's being naive to believe that would stop an attack, considering that's the method being watched most, and basically a very random draw to even be sent to the US. Not saying I agree with it, but maybe that shouldn't be our focus of how individuals are entering this country. Oh wait... Political agendas.


So

The Obama whitehouse, CIA, FBI, and every f'ing intelligence agency in the world basically says they have infiltrated the pool in areas, they probably will infiltrate the pool here, and they have no way of properly vetting, but because there are easier methods we should just blindly let 10,000 people walk in and set up camp in your backyard.

Youre confusing the governments only obligation to the American people, their safety, with the real political agenda, flooding the zone with illegals that will one day create democratic voters. That's the game being played. We could stabilize the region with little effort and help these people over the drink, but no, allow an enemy to drive hundreds of thousands / millions from their home and cause a huge migration crisis here at home. It's so damn blatant someone has to be dense as hell not to get it.

Not saying you're one, but come on, Obama is so damn obvious. Makes me wonder if even 20% of the public has read his works / Books or even listens to what he says.
 

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So

The Obama whitehouse, CIA, FBI, and every f'ing intelligence agency in the world basically says they have infiltrated the pool in areas, they probably will infiltrate the pool here, and they have no way of properly vetting, but because there are easier methods we should just blindly let 10,000 people walk in and set up camp in your backyard.

Youre confusing the governments only obligation to the American people, their safety, with the real political agenda, flooding the zone with illegals that will one day create democratic voters. That's the game being played. We could stabilize the region with little effort and help these people over the drink, but no, allow an enemy to drive hundreds of thousands / millions from their home and cause a huge migration crisis here at home. It's so damn blatant someone has to be dense as hell not to get it.

Not saying you're one, but come on, Obama is so damn obvious. Makes me wonder if even 20% of the public has read his works / Books or even listens to what he says.

Not disagreeing on the vetting process being awful, but they would have to go through a ton of effort to even be in the pool to be selected. Then, the odds of being sent to the US, if somehow they made it to the pool, is remote. So it seems like a terrible waste of time to get into the country, when there are other much easier options available. Everyone just acts like they go sign up for a ticket and they're here tomorrow. Apparently, it's basically a lottery of millions, and (hopefully) you'd be tracked closely if you did get picked. Why not just walk over from Canada? Again, agree the process seems flawed, but why would they even bother go through the process? Unfortunately, they have an easier, and better, chance at many other methods of entry.
 

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Not disagreeing on the vetting process being awful, but they would have to go through a ton of effort to even be in the pool to be selected. Then, the odds of being sent to the US, if somehow they made it to the pool, is remote. So it seems like a terrible waste of time to get into the country, when there are other much easier options available. Everyone just acts like they go sign up for a ticket and they're here tomorrow. Apparently, it's basically a lottery of millions, and (hopefully) you'd be tracked closely if you did get picked. Why not just walk over from Canada? Again, agree the process seems flawed, but why would they even bother go through the process? Unfortunately, they have an easier, and better, chance at many other methods of entry.
And not ignoring your second point. Just believe that's always been the game this country has played, to some degree, in international affairs. We generally go with what helps us in the long run. Obviously there are very strong varying opinions on what that is.

I'll pull the eject cord now.
 

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Lawd..CNN has started the Muslim protectionism.

"We need not to assume about this person being Muslim as Muslims were in attendance at Bastille Day"

I mean what is it with these people...they think everyone that worked in the trade center was a white christian male?
 

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You really think terminology has an effect? That's nonsense. Politically inspired nonsense.

On a practical level what do you think should be done? Declare war on 1/5th of the planet? We're currently bombing ISIS to such an extent that we're in danger of running out of the kind of ordnance used. Do you really think an American president's insults would deter a single person? Why would you degrade the office and abandon moral authority by doing it?
Youre right, we should just sit back and do nothing and let them behead all of us in the streets. Thats a brilliant strategy.
 

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people need to understand the problem with Muslim refugees entering our borders is very serious. As if the introduction through Syria alone is not a huge catastrophe. These are from Somalia within a recent 12 month cycle. There is no "vetting". We are bringing them into this country at a rate now of almost a 100k per decade. Some of those have engaged in activities resulting in being placed on the FBI's most wanted terrorist list.
 

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people need to understand the problem with Muslim refugees entering our borders is very serious. As if the introduction through Syria alone is not a huge catastrophe. These are from Somalia within a recent 12 month cycle. There is no "vetting". We are bringing them into this country at a rate now of almost a 100k per decade. Some of those have engaged in activities resulting in being placed on the FBI's most wanted terrorist list.
Interesting info. Wonder why Frisco has 0 count?
 

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people need to understand the problem with Muslim refugees entering our borders is very serious. As if the introduction through Syria alone is not a huge catastrophe. These are from Somalia within a recent 12 month cycle. There is no "vetting". We are bringing them into this country at a rate now of almost a 100k per decade. Some of those have engaged in activities resulting in being placed on the FBI's most wanted terrorist list.
Well, ****.
 

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Throughout this campaign cycle only Donald Trump has offered / proposed to place a moratorium on Muslim immigration, yet the media time and again sells to you that Mr. Trump has revealed nothing about what his foreign policy might include. No other candidate throughout the primary cycle made so much as a peep to indicate Muslim immigration would change one iota under their administration, which means it would surely worsen. Think about that to yourselves. Be honest about whether you think this nation can actually endure a population increase of likely a million Somalis over the next quarter century, as that rate will certainly increase very significantly, those persons allowed here will certainly bring in more of their own, rapidly reproduce on their own, etc., etc., etc. This is not even to discuss Muslim introduction from other middle east and central Asian locations (as well as elsewhere in North Africa when Europe finally says enough), so these enormous and very real numbers out of Somalia is your wake-up call, as that portion of your problem is huge, but just a drop of nasty spit in a great big bucket out of one very, very nasty cesspool.