South Carolina QB Connor Mitch to transfer
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New coaching too.....most teams take a yr to adjust to new coaching. Muschamp isn't new. Both Co-OCs are new. In the last few yrs their defense has bounced around between a 4-2-5 and a 3-4 base.....now they'll go with Muschamp's hybrid 4-3......so there may be personnel problems on defense too.
The game is earlier in the season and is adding up to a must win.
The game is earlier in the season and is adding up to a must win.
Oh, I don't know. Many on here are predicting 4 wins or so for us & that we can't win SEC games.
I have to agree with what you are saying. South Carolina has had some solid recruiting classes under Spurrier, even though last year's class wasn't very good. A lot of good players are still there. I have never been a Muschamp fan, but you never know how a coaching change will affect a roster. I won't make any predictions for South Carolina because personal experience teaches me that those players might respond well to the coaching change.
I think they struggle too. I don't know if 4 is their number or not, they have UMass, East Carolina, Western Carolina and Clemson as OOC games. East Carolina played UF within 7 last year, beat VT and came within 3 of Cinncinatti in their bowl game and finished 7-6. Western and UMass I have no clue about, don't think they are even FBS schools. But you are right, I think they have a hard time scoring, who knows if Muschamp learned to let the OC run the offense or not, he didn't in 4 years at UF. But they are excited and certain of a bowl, some even same "Boom" will get them back to the Dome this year.while winning 10 games. They are kind of split on beating us, but everyone of them are expecting to beat UK and I don't get that, you have beaten them 2 in a row.
I have always thought Muschamp was one of the most overrated DCs around. He has very little talent at USC compared to what he had at UF on either side of the ball. They are counting on a true frosh to lead them this fall, he might be what the expect but they really don't have much else on offense there, RB rotation is worst in the conference and it isn't close to number 13, lost the only playermaker they had a WR and no one else looked like they had to ability to step in, didn't sign one who looks like he could step in, then add Muschamp's desire to keep the offense extremely vanilla I think they have a very hard time scoring.
I didn't address any of that in my post. I'm only saying that players sometimes respond positively to a coaching change. And although I agree with you about Muschamp, it isn't hard to imagine that the Gamecocks might be happy to see Spurrier go.
That may be but I expect Southern Miss to give us a better game than USCe. They will be dreadful on offense esp under Muschamp.
Pharoah Cooper was the legit offensive threat last year and is now gone. Wilds with that OL was a petty solid run game. Much of that is gone and it is now all on a Sophmore QB and the OL. Muschamp can probably upgrade the defense a bit but offensively they could go 100% in the tank with him at the realm.
I know you didn't, and I understand about being excited about getting a new coach, I am myself about our's. But I also believe in being somewhat realistic about how a season will go, I don't expect us to win 10 regular season games, or the East. While I think it was time, maybe past time, foro Spurrier to hang up the whistle, I don't see Muschamp as a quality replacement. Personally I was glad to see the hire, otherwise he was going to be our DC and I didn't want him near our sideline.
I've never been impressed with Muschamp either. His teams tend to be decent on defense but not devastating. And the fact that his teams are usually awful on offense really hurts his defense even more.
I generally don't hope to see people fail at things but,, here is to wishing Boom Muschchamp all the worst in his career as a FB coach!
Too lazy to look it up but I think UK has never beaten a team Muschamp has been with as either player, asst coach or HC. UK needs to step it up regardless what SCAR does.
We'll probably see similar images of Muschamp in the near future, the only difference being that he'll be wearing Gamecock gear instead of Gator wear.
If you can't succeed at Florida, I don't see any possible way that you can succeed at South Carolina.
I agree with you, Muschamp hurt their recruiting, Miami being down like they have been hurt theirs too, so the reality is FSU has been able to basically pick the kids from the state of Florida they wanted the last 5-6 years. Of course UF got some good kids because there is some long time Gator fans in the state, same for Miami, but they both were losing the recruiting battles to FSU. It also allowed some of the better kids to leave the state for other programs around the country. Richt has Miami near the top of the recruiting rankings right now, but when other teams start to fill up they will drop out of the top 10 in a hurray, maybe even the top 25, while UF is 38th right now, 10th in the SEC. Of course UF will move up they only have 5 commits right now and are in on alot of kids.
But to USC and Muschamp, he hired a staff of recruiters, none are known for their on field coaching ability, he name the assistant from UGA co OC and he wasn't a good WR coach for us, good recruiter but he was never national recruiter of the year that they claimed when he was hired, he wasn't even our top recruiter. Very few of the Gamecock fans were happy with the hiring of Muschamp, Many wanted Herman who turned them down, the rest wanted Smart who came to UGA, then Fuentes was the man, but never offered according to them, and Rich Rod was never offered according to them. But it just doesn't make sense to me to not offer either of those coaches who have proven to be successful at other programs and offer a coach who has proven to be unsuccessful at his only HC gig.
We'll probably see similar images of Muschamp in the near future, the only difference being that he'll be wearing Gamecock gear instead of Gator wear.
LOL, if looks could kill. And the second picture looks like he wants to go home and take a nap, forget the game.
That first picture is from his long rant at one of the Burton's during a game, and that is one of the milder looks from that incredible episode, can't find it any more, guess it was banned. I thought he was going to bite the players head off, and I mean that literally. I wouldn't want him around anyone I know.
If they are predicting 4 wins wouldn't you think that an sec win was an automatic in their prediction?
Seriously - it's such a joke
They are losing there top QB on the roster....have no skill players on O. USC will be awful this fall (like Stoops' first year....no matter how well players or fans responded - we were still awful).
It was that way with Spurrier for a long time...and then 2010, and the last 2 seasons in a row
True. Sometimes those stats make sense. Other times they are true simply because they just happen to be true. I believe this is the case with us not beating Muschamp. We haven't beaten him but not because he's that great, we just haven't beaten a lot of teams during that period. We have come awful close to beating him. Should have ended Florida's win streak against us with him as coach. Muschamp doesn't intimidate me.
It would have to be pretty bad to be worse than his career at Florida, with the talent he had and losing to Georgia Southern at home? I mean that's about as bad as it can get.
The thing with me is that he actually recruited really good talent. Talent that you can absolutely win the East with, as shown by McElwain this past season (who if I'm not mistaken, brought in the worst recruiting class overall of any Florida class since Muschamp took over). Muschamp just managed to do much, much worse than he should have with the talent he had gotten.
Now, in South Carolina, he's going to get far less talent year in and year out than he ever got in Florida, and he'll be playing in the exact same division of the exact same conference at a time that it'll be more difficult for South Carolina to get wins in general.
South Carolina's SEC West rival is easier than Florida's, so he has that working in his favor, but I still think it's a safe win for Texas A&M, and plus, I fully expect South Carolina to be absolutely demolished by Clemson, so Muschamp may regret trading in a Florida vs FSU rivalry for a South Carolina vs Clemson one.
But anyway, as far as Muschamp and USC goes, and his staff, we see eye to eye entirely. Bad news for them that they don't have a single field coach. It could be that Muschamp is just way overly confident in his coaching abilities (I think this is likely).
They wouldn't have gotten any of the other guys you mentioned except for maybe Rich Rod, and they absolutely should have offered him longgggg before they offered Muschamp, but they screwed that one up.
Oh well though, not my school.
Well their plan was to hire Kirby. Bama beating us wasn't unexpected, losing Chubb on the first play cost us the UT game, so those can't really be put on Richt. But the UF game, our adjustment was to start our 3rd string qb, who was a dual threat guy and not change the offense one bit to take advantage of his running ability. Before the team loaded the bus Richt was gone, he just didn't know it yet. Boosters got in contact with Kirby, he hadn't signed anything yet and he took the job before team was back in Athens, verbally. A few details to work out as for as money for assistants and support staff, our AD was told not to screw it up or he was gone too. When we announced Richt wasn't coming back, USC tried to rush things with Kirby but it was too late. Then Herman was next man up, he likes it in Texas and wants the Texas or A&M job, plus Houston stepped and paid him, Fuentes chose A&M, they said then never offered Rich Rod, but I bet his agent had an offer, so techinically they didn't. Muschamp had already left AU and was coming to us as DC, unless USC offered him, and they did. So we ended up with Mel Tucker, the DB coach at Bama who Ansley replaced. Almost like musical chairs. Tucker is knowledgable and experienced and a top flight DB coach, how well he DC's is a big question mark. Kirby kept 2 of the previous staff, Sherrer, our OLB coach, and Rocker our DL coach. Offensively Kirby hit some homeruns, the OL coach currently has 18 former players in the league and one of the best OL coaches in college. James Coley was the OC at Miami is the new WR coach, our WR looked great in spring game, we signed the best group of WR in 16 in the last 15 years. The offense looked better than last season under the new OC, he spread the ball around to about 14 different guys, on both teams of course, and not one WR screen, we were running post, combo routes, deep corners, skinny post, wheel routes, the entire tree, something we haven't done since Richt came. UGA fans are excited, impatient waiting for Eason to take over, hoping Chubb is the same RB, personally I am as excited about the season as I have been in at least 10 years, and I don't think we have a shot at the East, I just expect us to show up every week, which is a huge improvement.
Basically, USC at home on 9/24 is probably our most winnable SEC game IMO. Winning that game certainly doesn't guarantee a bowl-eligible season, but if we lose that game it's hard to see us getting to six wins.
Scar and vandy are both still bad. If we are improving we should beat both easy this year.
For the record, I've seen several cock fans say they have the best coaching staff in the east. They may have a really good recruiting staff but no way I take them over ours, UT, uga, or Florida. I would of been pissed if we'd of hired a guy that couldn’t win at Florida. Zook had a better record.
For the record, I've seen several cock fans say they have the best coaching staff in the east. They may have a really good recruiting staff but no way I take them over ours, UT, uga, or Florida. I would of been pissed if we'd of hired a guy that couldn’t win at Florida. Zook had a better record.
If UK is to make a bowl game then they have to beat both USC and Vandy. The road schedule is too thought with the only winnable game being at Missouri. UK will need at least five home wins to have a shot at a bowl game.
Truthfully the only 2 I know anything about is Muschamp and McClendon. Muschamp was lucky to be in the right place at the right time a couple of years, built his reputation. His defenses at Texas weren't very good, he had some good ones at UF, but he also had top 5 talent or better from Urban's recruiting, USC fans will tell you Urban left the bench bare, that's just wrong. McClendon was a better than average recruiter, knows the Atlanta area, coached RB's and had Gurley, Marshal, Moreno, Chubb and Michel to work with, not a poster here who wouldn't look good with that kind of talent. He coached WR last season, our WR couldn't block, couldn't get seperation and had more drops than the previous 5 years combined. Kirby wasn't retaining him, Muschamp offered him CO OC to stop him from going to Miami with Richt. Kirby did want to keep Thomas Brown, but he did go to Miami with Richt, he was the only offensive coach he wanted to keep.
I'm predicting 4 wins. I think USCjr is a winnable game. I think UK should win one out of three against USCjr, Mizzou, and Vandy. Maybe 2. Win Southern Miss, New Mexico St, and Austin Peay that's 4 wins, maybe 5.
So you think vandy, scar, and missou will improve more than us this year with 2 of them losing proven, successful coaches and the other losing several key players that they haven't recruited well enough to replace?
LOL.
What are you doing on here, you should be outside waiting for the sky to fall, or preparing for your funeral, or------
I just don't think UK is going to win all three of those. Vandy, who was a lock by so many last year (including me), is right after the Bama game. Mizzou is sandwiched in between Miss State and Georgia. Physically, UK is going to get beaten up in those games prior, so a slip up or two is possible. It's not about improvement over UK for those schools, it's timing.
UK is putting in a new offense and breaking in a new coordinator for the 2nd year in a row so you have questions about coaching just like you do at these other schools. I think South Carolina is the more probable win among the 3 because of where the game takes place in the schedule but I think 5-7 is the best UK will do this year. 4-8 is where I stand. It's bearish I know, but the last 3 years have done nothing to change that for me. I was in the 6-6 camp last year.
You are catching Vandy at a bad time, Bama is so physical teams have a hard time recovering without an off week and don't play well the next week. That's a tough scheduling break for UK.