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Collins seems physically unwell to me. He appears gaunt. His pallor is less than vibrant. He looks like he has considerably aged. I recognize that job stress and a lousy season can wear on a coach, but to me, at least, his physical appearance seems to be more consistent with a physical ailment. I hope I am wrong and Collins's health is excellent. Does anyone else look at Collins and think he is physically unwell?
 
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Collins seems physically unwell to me. He appears gaunt. His pallor is less than vibrant. He looks like he has considerably aged. I recognize that job stress and a lousy season can wear on a coach, but to me, at least, his physical appearance seems to be more consistent with a physical ailment. I hope I am wrong and Collins's health is excellent. Does anyone else look at Collins and think he is physically unwell?
This team makes him sick because they have terrible chemistry and effort is poor
 

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Collins seems physically unwell to me. He appears gaunt. His pallor is less than vibrant. He looks like he has considerably aged. I recognize that job stress and a lousy season can wear on a coach, but to me, at least, his physical appearance seems to be more consistent with a physical ailment. I hope I am wrong and Collins's health is excellent. Does anyone else look at Collins and think he is physically unwell?
He does look a bit… paler, than usual? But it’s the middle of a brutal winter.

Otherwise he looked in fine physical form. Angry and confused by the refs, sure, but healthy.
 

GatoLouco

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Here's my speculation, this team is a cultural/fit mess. I don't have insider information, but the signs are there. I'd be shocked if there were no serious locker room problems. And not ones created by losing, ones that have been there all season.

1) Page and Reid don't seem to fit with the rest of the group
2) KJ?
3) The overall "effort" level just seems low

It's wild speculation, sure, but I hope we blow it all up. I'd like to see 4-5 guys in the portal. I'd like to see us with the NIL money to get middle of the road, but experienced, portal players. Could not care less to see the potential Page obviously has. Give me a senior that won't even make it to the 3rd tier of Albanian basketball, but fits. Unless we do that, we won't be competitive next year for sure. Probably not the following either.

It's close to impossible to fix chemistry by holding on to the same guys. Don't compromise culture.
 

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Here's my speculation, this team is a cultural/fit mess. I don't have insider information, but the signs are there. I'd be shocked if there were no serious locker room problems. And not ones created by losing, ones that have been there all season.

1) Page and Reid don't seem to fit with the rest of the group
2) KJ?
3) The overall "effort" level just seems low

It's wild speculation, sure, but I hope we blow it all up. I'd like to see 4-5 guys in the portal. I'd like to see us with the NIL money to get middle of the road, but experienced, portal players. Could not care less to see the potential Page obviously has. Give me a senior that won't even make it to the 3rd tier of Albanian basketball, but fits. Unless we do that, we won't be competitive next year for sure. Probably not the following either.

It's close to impossible to fix chemistry by holding on to the same guys. Don't compromise culture.
All 3 are very related. None of us know. Maybe they just don’t have enough good players. The KJ love has always been bizarre to me. CCC obviously wants him nowhere near the court. That ship sailed long ago. Reid and AP were getting accolades in non-conference games, now they are lazy to some. That’s not my view at all. Are they lost out there at times, absolutely. They don’t fit the wizards defense. Yet, we continue to allow multiple mismatches down low with Reid and West. Every game. Michigans size ( let alone talent) will result in an Illinois type game. Some might call it lazy, but we can’t bring in players like most of our B1G peers. We are overmatched.

This season reminds me of Nance’s first year. Except with the portal/NIL the B1G is much better. It’s fair to criticize the staff for being stubborn and insisting on fitting the players to the system versus the system to the players. However, let’s be real here, NU isn’t a destination for high in demand transfers. The staff got positions they needed. Unfortunately, they got a guy to man the middle that can’t defend, a PG who gets wild too much, and a shooter that takes forever to get off his shot. It’s easy to criticize them for bringing in guys that weren’t difference makers, but who exactly was reasonably available to us with what we had for NIL resources and our let’s say not so great history?
 

GatoLouco

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It’s easy to criticize them for bringing in guys that weren’t difference makers, but who exactly was reasonably available to us with what we had for NIL resources and our let’s say not so great history?
I don't criticize at all. Measuring fit, chemistry, is nearly impossible. You can place all the calls you want to ask about some kid's character, and it's still incredibly hard to predict fit. On paper all 3 transfers looked good to me. Like we actually punched above our weight.

I thought we were a 7 win minimum team, with a likely 8-9 win season, 10 or even 11 if a lot of stuff came together. But that was based on the transfers, while inexperienced, not being as naive as they are. No level of good freshmen was going to save us if that was not true. West and Singleton are actually better, as freshmen, than I expected.

The last time we had fit issues we lost a now borderline NBA player, and a transfer to Duke (OK, we also lost some dude to IN). We got, individually, worse players and, yet, we got much better. I am wildly speculating we might be in a similar situation. Maybe we are not, and they just need time. I do continue to think this is, raw potential wise, the most stacked roster I have ever seen at NU.

Lastly, I have no idea if Page and Reid, or KJ, are the biggest problems. If they are, it does not make them necessarily bad kids, or players, just bad fits. But I know they've seen their roles in the team diminished. That usually happens for a reason.
 

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I don't criticize at all. Measuring fit, chemistry, is nearly impossible. You can place all the calls you want to ask about some kid's character, and it's still incredibly hard to predict fit. On paper all 3 transfers looked good to me. Like we actually punched above our weight.

I thought we were a 7 win minimum team, with a likely 8-9 win season, 10 or even 11 if a lot of stuff came together. But that was based on the transfers, while inexperienced, not being as naive as they are. No level of good freshmen was going to save us if that was not true. West and Singleton are actually better, as freshmen, than I expected.

The last time we had fit issues we lost a now borderline NBA player, and a transfer to Duke (OK, we also lost some dude to IN). We got, individually, worse players and, yet, we got much better. I am wildly speculating we might be in a similar situation. Maybe we are not, and they just need time. I do continue to think this is, raw potential wise, the most stacked roster I have ever seen at NU.

Lastly, I have no idea if Page and Reid, or KJ, are the biggest problems. If they are, it does not make them necessarily bad kids, or players, just bad fits. But I know they've seen their roles in the team diminished. That usually happens for a reason.
I was a little less optimistic than you coming into the season, but this all makes sense to me. I just believe you are a year too early. I don’t expect the Freshman to leave, but no one else would be a great surprise. Barring home runs in the portal, I think 7 conference wins next season is pretty good. The year after should be tourney team if roster stays in tact.
 

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I was a little less optimistic than you coming into the season, but this all makes sense to me. I just believe you are a year too early. I don’t expect the Freshman to leave, but no one else would be a great surprise. Barring home runs in the portal, I think 7 conference wins next season is pretty good. The year after should be tourney team if roster stays in tact.
Year too early is being optimistic. It's not an expectation. Things have to fall in a certain way, some luck has to be involved. But it can happen. And we should be trying to make that happen, for sure!

On paper Nebraska did not get a phenomenal crop in the portal. They were a two headed monster on offense last year and they lost both heads. And, yet, they are thriving. Minnesota had, on paper, a pretty mediocre roster and while not excelling, are doing better than expected. What they both have in common is they got experience.

I'd not be shocked if we got a couple of seasoned 8 ppg players in the portal and became a bubble team. Of course it's not the most likely outcome and it's not as easy as just going out there and getting 2 or 3 seniors.
 

macarthur31

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All 3 are very related. None of us know. Maybe they just don’t have enough good players. The KJ love has always been bizarre to me. CCC obviously wants him nowhere near the court. That ship sailed long ago. Reid and AP were getting accolades in non-conference games, now they are lazy to some. That’s not my view at all. Are they lost out there at times, absolutely. They don’t fit the wizards defense. Yet, we continue to allow multiple mismatches down low with Reid and West. Every game. Michigans size ( let alone talent) will result in an Illinois type game. Some might call it lazy, but we can’t bring in players like most of our B1G peers. We are overmatched.

This season reminds me of Nance’s first year. Except with the portal/NIL the B1G is much better. It’s fair to criticize the staff for being stubborn and insisting on fitting the players to the system versus the system to the players. However, let’s be real here, NU isn’t a destination for high in demand transfers. The staff got positions they needed. Unfortunately, they got a guy to man the middle that can’t defend, a PG who gets wild too much, and a shooter that takes forever to get off his shot. It’s easy to criticize them for bringing in guys that weren’t difference makers, but who exactly was reasonably available to us with what we had for NIL resources and our let’s say not so great history?

"It's fair to criticize the staff for being stubborn and insisting on fitting the players to they system, versus the system to the players." I'm hoping that the staff will really do an inquest on this - particularly with the defense. While it's man to man, there's alot of switching and trapping which requires cohesion and trust. That Iowa game continues to reveal how this team just doesn't defend well enough:
  • There were possessions in that Iowa game that they got killed on switches - they ran high-low to get their bigger guys posting up on West/Reid.
  • there were several possessions where the squad played a terrific 25 seconds, only to give up 2nd and 3rd OReb chances.
  • They also put the Hawkeyes on the line - where they go 23/29 from FT.
  • Finally, there's the individual brilliance of Bennett Stirtz - and, that's going to happen in the B1G - because nearly every good team has that scorer who can control pace.
All in all, we surrendered 1.22 PPP. That's how the 'Cats lose a game where they shot 57.1% from 3FG and go 20/22 from FT (91%).

Now, I'm not advocating that we should've gone zone. Mainly because it's hard to protect glass from a zone, and this team is straight awful at protecting their glass. Also, playing team defense requires consistency in preparation - adding more complexity won't help.
 

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"It's fair to criticize the staff for being stubborn and insisting on fitting the players to they system, versus the system to the players." I'm hoping that the staff will really do an inquest on this - particularly with the defense. While it's man to man, there's alot of switching and trapping which requires cohesion and trust. That Iowa game continues to reveal how this team just doesn't defend well enough:
  • There were possessions in that Iowa game that they got killed on switches - they ran high-low to get their bigger guys posting up on West/Reid.
  • there were several possessions where the squad played a terrific 25 seconds, only to give up 2nd and 3rd OReb chances.
  • They also put the Hawkeyes on the line - where they go 23/29 from FT.
  • Finally, there's the individual brilliance of Bennett Stirtz - and, that's going to happen in the B1G - because nearly every good team has that scorer who can control pace.
All in all, we surrendered 1.22 PPP. That's how the 'Cats lose a game where they shot 57.1% from 3FG and go 20/22 from FT (91%).

Now, I'm not advocating that we should've gone zone. Mainly because it's hard to protect glass from a zone, and this team is straight awful at protecting their glass. Also, playing team defense requires consistency in preparation - adding more complexity won't help.
I agree with this. If there was an easy solution the staff would have figured it out. As my HS Coach used to say, I can’t make velvet out of Pigskin. Sometimes you are just so overmatched in talent that there is little you can do to impact an outcome.

BTW- I am very encouraged by our Freshman.
 
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All 3 are very related. None of us know. Maybe they just don’t have enough good players. The KJ love has always been bizarre to me. CCC obviously wants him nowhere near the court. That ship sailed long ago. Reid and AP were getting accolades in non-conference games, now they are lazy to some. That’s not my view at all. Are they lost out there at times, absolutely. They don’t fit the wizards defense. Yet, we continue to allow multiple mismatches down low with Reid and West. Every game. Michigans size ( let alone talent) will result in an Illinois type game. Some might call it lazy, but we can’t bring in players like most of our B1G peers. We are overmatched.

This season reminds me of Nance’s first year. Except with the portal/NIL the B1G is much better. It’s fair to criticize the staff for being stubborn and insisting on fitting the players to the system versus the system to the players. However, let’s be real here, NU isn’t a destination for high in demand transfers. The staff got positions they needed. Unfortunately, they got a guy to man the middle that can’t defend, a PG who gets wild too much, and a shooter that takes forever to get off his shot. It’s easy to criticize them for bringing in guys that weren’t difference makers, but who exactly was reasonably available to us with what we had for NIL resources and our let’s say not so great history?
It's pretty simple: we don't have good players, especially at guard. We have zero reliably very good guards. West is developing and played like a really good guard vs Iowa and we're rightfully excited about his future, but he's not at that level consistently yet. Nobody else in the backcourt is frankly very good, and none of them shoot very well. What else needs to be said?
 

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"It's fair to criticize the staff for being stubborn and insisting on fitting the players to they system, versus the system to the players." I'm hoping that the staff will really do an inquest on this - particularly with the defense. While it's man to man, there's alot of switching and trapping which requires cohesion and trust. That Iowa game continues to reveal how this team just doesn't defend well enough:
  • There were possessions in that Iowa game that they got killed on switches - they ran high-low to get their bigger guys posting up on West/Reid.
  • there were several possessions where the squad played a terrific 25 seconds, only to give up 2nd and 3rd OReb chances.
  • They also put the Hawkeyes on the line - where they go 23/29 from FT.
  • Finally, there's the individual brilliance of Bennett Stirtz - and, that's going to happen in the B1G - because nearly every good team has that scorer who can control pace.
All in all, we surrendered 1.22 PPP. That's how the 'Cats lose a game where they shot 57.1% from 3FG and go 20/22 from FT (91%).

Now, I'm not advocating that we should've gone zone. Mainly because it's hard to protect glass from a zone, and this team is straight awful at protecting their glass. Also, playing team defense requires consistency in preparation - adding more complexity won't help.
I don't understand why we haven't at least experimented with zone this year. I'm curious if Page would be better in zone. Plus our size dictates that our switching strategy is just not tenable when a lot of our players are on the court. Reid is just begging to be abused every time down the court at his size.
 
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I don't understand why we haven't at least experimented with zone this year. I'm curious if Page would be better in zone. Plus our size dictates that our switching strategy is just not tenable when a lot of our players are on the court. Reid is just begging to be abused every time down the court at his size.
If we are to assume that Collins is heavily influenced by Coach K, then it's understandable why the deep adherence to the man to man scheme. From a 2018 Yahoo article:

When Mike Brey worked at Duke for eight seasons in the late 1980s and early 1990s, he recalled Mike Krzyzewski using “about 10 possessions” of zone defense over that span. They had a 1-2-2 zone defense, known as “12,” which Duke flashed during times of foul trouble or injury problems. “He had a mid-life crisis,” Brey recalled with a laugh at the memory of Krzyzewski installing the zone in practice. “This is the crew that slaps the floor in man-to-man. We were joking at the time, ‘Can we still slap the floor in 12?’ It doesn’t seem right.”

I don't recall the 'Cats ever running much zone during the Collins era, and if it was, it was likely a "break glass in case of emergency" type situation. Coach K eventually moved off of it towards the latter stage of his career, so whose to say that Collins may not make that kind of adjustment as well.

Again, running any defense: zone or man-to-man or even as Raftery would occasionally offer, "a 2-3 zone, with man-to-man principles" - it's gonna require repetition and commitment; perhaps in the long run, Collins is thinking they're better served with staying man to man. (Another consideration - perhaps if Collins was more on the hot seat, it would invite him to try just out of desperation?)
 

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I don't recall the 'Cats ever running much zone during the Collins era, and if it was, it was likely a "break glass in case of emergency" type situation.
We used zone all season during the Pat Spencer year. It was, for the most part, poorly executed. It highlighted the idea that zone requires more coordination than man to man. It was a lot of chasing the ball, guarding space with no player in it, two players covering one opponent, etc, etc.
 
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AdamOnFirst

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If we are to assume that Collins is heavily influenced by Coach K, then it's understandable why the deep adherence to the man to man scheme. From a 2018 Yahoo article:



I don't recall the 'Cats ever running much zone during the Collins era, and if it was, it was likely a "break glass in case of emergency" type situation. Coach K eventually moved off of it towards the latter stage of his career, so whose to say that Collins may not make that kind of adjustment as well.

Again, running any defense: zone or man-to-man or even as Raftery would occasionally offer, "a 2-3 zone, with man-to-man principles" - it's gonna require repetition and commitment; perhaps in the long run, Collins is thinking they're better served with staying man to man. (Another consideration - perhaps if Collins was more on the hot seat, it would invite him to try just out of desperation?)
I definitely get the philosophical side - and it’s tough to argue with Collins defensively too much given the vast majority of he great success he’s had comes down to defensive culture and success - but as a non-ball kind I don’t understand why you wouldn’t still want it available as a changeup. Even guys who throw 103 with the heater have off speed stuff.
 

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Here's my speculation, this team is a cultural/fit mess. I don't have insider information, but the signs are there. I'd be shocked if there were no serious locker room problems. And not ones created by losing, ones that have been there all season.

1) Page and Reid don't seem to fit with the rest of the group
2) KJ?
3) The overall "effort" level just seems low

It's wild speculation, sure, but I hope we blow it all up. I'd like to see 4-5 guys in the portal. I'd like to see us with the NIL money to get middle of the road, but experienced, portal players. Could not care less to see the potential Page obviously has. Give me a senior that won't even make it to the 3rd tier of Albanian basketball, but fits. Unless we do that, we won't be competitive next year for sure. Probably not the following either.

It's close to impossible to fix chemistry by holding on to the same guys. Don't compromise culture.
Not sure about Reid - he seems to have developed some chemistry with being on the floor at the same time with West.
Page, on the other hand...yes, I have heard through a couple of different sources that he has had trouble "buying in" to what the coaches are trying to get him to do. The coaching staff apparently feels that he is very physically gifted, but the recent struggles are entirely mental/attitude driven. During last night's game, I saw Nick made concerted efforts to encourage Page and keep him engaged and in the right mindset. (On one occasion, I even caught Nick closing Page's mouth for him when he was making a open-mouthed expression of disbelief towards the coaching staff.)

But KJ definitely continues to be the mystery for me this season. His ability to turn it on from deep on offense and play reasonable defense from the 2-spot seems like it would really go a long way in improving the team's play over all. Don't understand why he isn't getting playing time. His body language during warmups and during the games still indicates that he is engaged and positive, so I don't think he has checked out on the team, but clearly CCC doesn't feel that he would help the team.

I personally believe that Collins has earned the right for me to give him the benefit of doubt, but his non-use of KJ this year doesn't make any sense to me. And what's frustrating is that I don't know if we will ever know the answer as to why.
 
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He does look a bit… paler, than usual? But it’s the middle of a brutal winter.

Otherwise he looked in fine physical form. Angry and confused by the refs, sure, but healthy.
I would agree - I was watching the game last night from the 7th row right behind the bench. Collins looked his usual self.
 

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I definitely get the philosophical side - and it’s tough to argue with Collins defensively too much given the vast majority of he great success he’s had comes down to defensive culture and success - but as a non-ball kind I don’t understand why you wouldn’t still want it available as a changeup. Even guys who throw 103 with the heater have off speed stuff.
Because it requires a lot of coordination and hard to get that down if it is just used intermittently. Best zone was Behiem Syracuse sort of ameba zone, It was something to see in action. I lived avout 80 miles north of their in 1990 or 91 and followed Syracuse for those couple years and would tune in when they were in the tourney
 

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Collins seems physically unwell to me. He appears gaunt. His pallor is less than vibrant. He looks like he has considerably aged. I recognize that job stress and a lousy season can wear on a coach, but to me, at least, his physical appearance seems to be more consistent with a physical ailment. I hope I am wrong and Collins's health is excellent. Does anyone else look at Collins and think he is physically unwell?
I think he may have lost some weight but otherwise seems OK Maybe he got his hands on some GLP1
 

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Not sure about Reid - he seems to have developed some chemistry with being on the floor at the same time with West.
Page, on the other hand...yes, I have heard through a couple of different sources that he has had trouble "buying in" to what the coaches are trying to get him to do. The coaching staff apparently feels that he is very physically gifted, but the recent struggles are entirely mental/attitude driven. During last night's game, I saw Nick made concerted efforts to encourage Page and keep him engaged and in the right mindset. (On one occasion, I even caught Nick closing Page's mouth for him when he was making a open-mouthed expression of disbelief towards the coaching staff.)

But KJ definitely continues to be the mystery for me this season. His ability to turn it on from deep on offense and play reasonable defense from the 2-spot seems like it would really go a long way in improving the team's play over all. Don't understand why he isn't getting playing time. His body language during warmups and during the games still indicates that he is engaged and positive, so I don't think he has checked out on the team, but clearly CCC doesn't feel that he would help the team.

I personally believe that Collins has earned the right for me to give him the benefit of doubt, but his non-use of KJ this year doesn't make any sense to me. And what's frustrating is that I don't know if we will ever know the answer as to why.
Some things puzzle me in this board, the KJ love, the Reid hate, and minutes discussion on Nick lead the pack.
 

GatoLouco

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Not sure about Reid - he seems to have developed some chemistry with being on the floor at the same time with West.
Page, on the other hand...yes, I have heard through a couple of different sources that he has had trouble "buying in" to what the coaches are trying to get him to do. The coaching staff apparently feels that he is very physically gifted, but the recent struggles are entirely mental/attitude driven. During last night's game, I saw Nick made concerted efforts to encourage Page and keep him engaged and in the right mindset. (On one occasion, I even caught Nick closing Page's mouth for him when he was making a open-mouthed expression of disbelief towards the coaching staff.)

But KJ definitely continues to be the mystery for me this season. His ability to turn it on from deep on offense and play reasonable defense from the 2-spot seems like it would really go a long way in improving the team's play over all. Don't understand why he isn't getting playing time. His body language during warmups and during the games still indicates that he is engaged and positive, so I don't think he has checked out on the team, but clearly CCC doesn't feel that he would help the team.

I personally believe that Collins has earned the right for me to give him the benefit of doubt, but his non-use of KJ this year doesn't make any sense to me. And what's frustrating is that I don't know if we will ever know the answer as to why.
I am not sure about anything I said. Reid is fast and offensively very capable. But my comments have little to do with capability or talent (or even attitude), they have to do with fit.

Reid strikes me as one of those kids that can not get away from a score first mentality. And, therefore, just does not fit well within a team, even when putting up decent numbers. He's too short and not good enough to be the center of attention.
 

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I am not sure about anything I said. Reid is fast and offensively very capable. But my comments have little to do with capability or talent (or even attitude), they have to do with fit.

Reid strikes me as one of those kids that can not get away from a score first mentality. And, therefore, just does not fit well within a team, even when putting up decent numbers. He's too short and not good enough to be the center of attention.
This certainly might be true. Reid plays like Boo used to play in his first year or two - a lot of "hero ball". Maddening at times, with the potential to be electric, but not really good for the team as a whole.
 

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Why doesn’t he do a pick and roll with page? Just like boo used to do with big Matt for the nicholbombs.
 

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I recall seeing quite a but of the Reid/Page two man game against the softer early season schedule. I reckon teams see our whole roster save Nick is shooting sub 30% from three and just sags to the middle preventing that pick and roll from being effective.
 

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I am not sure about anything I said. Reid is fast and offensively very capable. But my comments have little to do with capability or talent (or even attitude), they have to do with fit.

Reid strikes me as one of those kids that can not get away from a score first mentality. And, therefore, just does not fit well within a team, even when putting up decent numbers. He's too short and not good enough to be the center of attention.
When I watch Reid, I see a quarterback who is always locked on his receiver. I think he lacks the skill of court vision so he's going to shoot it or dribble himself into cul-de-sacs.
 

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Some things puzzle me in this board, the KJ love, the Reid hate, and minutes discussion on Nick lead the pack.
I don't it's too complicated. Nick has definitely worn down. KJ was decent last year, and the team is not good this year. Reid is too short to succeed at this level of basketball, which is why he was available for NU.
 

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NU had built a 16 point lead , in part to some spirited play by Page, but Page was pulled and Michigan went wild, 15/16 with many inside baskets.
I still question why our centers play tight on centers like Mara. Leave him alone up top, clog the middle and help reduce the layups that occur when our guards get beat off the dribble.
 
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GatoLouco

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This certainly might be true. Reid plays like Boo used to play in his first year or two - a lot of "hero ball". Maddening at times, with the potential to be electric, but not really good for the team as a whole.
The Boo point is a very good one and reason to be hopeful that maybe I am way off and Reid (as well as Page) can be great next year. But there is also the fact they are juniors, no sophomores. They don't have Boo's first year or two time (and he ended up playing 5 years). For them it's next year or bust.
 

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Some things puzzle me in this board, the KJ love, the Reid hate, and minutes discussion on Nick lead the pack.
The KJ love is more KJ confusion. He looked like the breakout star toward the end of last year and a lot of us had him penciled in as our second best player after Nick. It is just confusing that he dropped so far during the offseason as to not even be in the rotation. At this point, I've given up complaining about it and assume there HAS to be a story there we don't know.

Reid hate, I am guessing, stems in part from how promising he looked in the non-con part of the schedule where he could use his quickness to make plays, especially in transition. The better, bigger athletes in the BIG have shut him down which has created a lot of frustration that gets converted, unfairly, into hate.

As for Nick minutes, I've always thought CCC overplays his star players. It isn't just Nick. I remember this for many past players as well. In the NBA, they have rotations so that the stars sit early in the 4th quarter and can then finish strong. CCC plays his stars the entire second half. Why not give them a few minutes before the 12 and 8 minute timeouts to rest?
 

Purple Pile Driver

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The KJ love is more KJ confusion. He looked like the breakout star toward the end of last year and a lot of us had him penciled in as our second best player after Nick. It is just confusing that he dropped so far during the offseason as to not even be in the rotation. At this point, I've given up complaining about it and assume there HAS to be a story there we don't know.

Reid hate, I am guessing, stems in part from how promising he looked in the non-con part of the schedule where he could use his quickness to make plays, especially in transition. The better, bigger athletes in the BIG have shut him down which has created a lot of frustration that gets converted, unfairly, into hate.

As for Nick minutes, I've always thought CCC overplays his star players. It isn't just Nick. I remember this for many past players as well. In the NBA, they have rotations so that the stars sit early in the 4th quarter and can then finish strong. CCC plays his stars the entire second half. Why not give them a few minutes before the 12 and 8 minute timeouts to rest?
The reason the stars play is there is a GIANT drop off with our bench players,
 

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I am not sure about anything I said. Reid is fast and offensively very capable. But my comments have little to do with capability or talent (or even attitude), they have to do with fit.

Reid strikes me as one of those kids that can not get away from a score first mentality. And, therefore, just does not fit well within a team, even when putting up decent numbers. He's too short and not good enough to be the center of attention.
Sometimes that is what you need. IF I have a reason to be disappointed it is probably on D, While his height is an issue, I thought he could make up for that with his quickness and hands forcing a large number of turnovers, But that really has not happened