Stakes are too high. Braun/Lujan CANNOT lead us into the New Stadium world
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I didn’t mean any disrespect here. Bruce was a fine coach at OSU. He was not the right fit for NU at the time. It was Barnett all the way.
Dude, you are fine. It worked out for the best. I was making a point that the high academic standards were going to make it harder to get the 4-5 star kids. NU needs to compensate with a HC that has some imagination. From what I heard from family members, it sounded like Earle didn't think he could succeed with those constraints. Obviously he was wrong. It would have been cool if he got the NU job, but he did turn Colorado State around.
Well, most of us questioned the hire the day it was made. It never was about getting the best guy for the job, it was about getting a person that would quiet the mob.
I don’t believe the 4 year guarantee of scholarships is mandated by the NCAA or even by NU. What other program in the country keeps the unproductive steak eaters for 4 years. It’s a different age, but a steak eater should never see a dime of revenue share and we should always be upfront with our performance reviews to players. Not sure they stick around if told they are unlikely to ever see the field. Either way, the Coaches recruited these players so if they have too many steak eaters and they are allowed to remain on the team, they are essentially creating a quick pink slip for themselves.
I am talking about at Northwestern. None of those other teams has our admissions and overall management Do you really see us bringing in 30 transfers in a year with our admissions? Besides, I don't think we can force the kids out so they sort of block the numbers we can bring in, Of course with all the poaching of our players after they graduate, there may be enough open spots
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His O worked in tandem with the D and the result was we won and that is the real goal
I believe it was NU that said that the scholarships would be honored for four years or until graduation. And I think the BIG was leaning that way as well but not sure that they ever made the commitment
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Some Coaches Called Texas State a “Career-Killer.” G.J. Kinne Made It His Calling Card.
In his first year in San Marcos, Kinne has led the Bobcats to a 7–5 record and the school’s first-ever appearance in a postseason bowl game.
www.texasmonthly.com
We’re calling Mike Locksley, about to get his *** fired at Maryland, an jnterezting coach now? Yuck, pass.
Obviously he has a couple more months to turn this around, but it increasingly looks like the role he was hired for was his best fit at this point in his career. Capable P4 DC with the personal motivational chips to lead a team but more development on other points needed.
It's not mandated by the NCAA but it has been mandated by the Big Ten for many years.
https://www.espn.com/college-sports...ntees-four-year-scholarships-student-athletes
If Braun gets fired we better be able to bring in 30+ transfers as we will surely have a lot of guys transfer out. Like you always see with a coaching change.
The right Coach will draw transfers & recruits & be prepared to navigate the admissions process.
Not an easy job but head coaches get paid a fortune for a reason.
Do we have to keep playing there even with the new stadium? That can't be right.
I believe with the two games this year we have honored the contract, Gonna have a billion dollar state of the art FB stadium, Why on earth would we pay to go back to Wrigley
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He stayed for many reasons but we also gave him an insanely large contract that had escalators that guaranteed that he’d be the 4th highest paid coach in the conference at certain checkpoints of the term of the deal.
We can attract a ton of coaches with that kind of offer.
First, he did not get those terms until after he had proven himself over something like 10-15 years,. You suggesting that they would give someone those terms coming out of the gate? And if not, after what they did to him, are they gonna stick around long enough to get that deal?
In the past, a lot of coaches turned down the opportunity because of the admission policies and our administration in general. If they are any good, they will have plenty of opportunities. While things may be better, after what was done to Fitz, any prospective HC is gonna look long and hard before they believe any of those so called promises. Granted it is not Gragg but Schill is still there and there is not much to indicate that the woke mob is under controlThe right Coach will draw transfers & recruits & be prepared to navigate the admissions process.
Not an easy job but head coaches get paid a fortune for a reason.
The comment was about how he stayed even though he was offered other jobs. When he was the most desirable and had the most suitors, he was offered an incredible contract. Who would leave NU when given that deal? Fourth highest paid in conference but with no media pressure and fans who are ok with making a bowl every two years is the most desirable and cushiest situation in the country.
What Coach worth his salt wants to go to a program where making a bowl every two years is ok?
Anyone who wants to get paid more than the head coach at at least one of OSU, Penn St, Michigan, USC, and Oregon, have no pressure from fans / donors / media, and high upside to be a legend?
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Someone is not coming in to be the 4th highest paid coach in the conference. If a Coach is afraid of pressure to perform, I don’t want them.
Also a coach who wants to be well paid to live on the north shore in a very nice stadium instead of living in bumfuck nowhere. At a school that pays more than lip service to the development of young men aspect to coaching a lot of coaches at least claim to miss. Is it an elite job? No. But it’s a Big Ten job with several attractive qualities to counterbalance the negative qualities.
You are forgetting that that contract was not signed until after the 2020 season, and that was after he had been with NU as HC for 15 years and during that 15 years he had had numerous opportunities to go elsewhere but showed loyalty to NU. He had just had 5 of 6 BIG winning seasons. We had just gone to a second BIG Championship game in 3 years and also with the win over Auburn had gone to bowl games in 5 of 6 years and had won 4 straight bowl games so 2019 looked like an aberration. He had numerous potential suitors at that point including NFL teams, He was 25 games over 500 and even had a winning record in the BIG. And that was at NU with all the constraints that other programs did not have to deal with.
Like it or not, he had earned that contract and at that point, no need to look elsewhere. You can argue that it was longer than it needed to be but it was understandable given the circumstances and you cannot argue that he did not earn a contract extension. His first two years under that contract were disappointing. He had made a bad hire and some of the QBs we had counted on had not worked out, But after that second season, he corrected his mistakes and it looked like he again had set up the program for success
Agree. A lot of successful guys are that. I would say Barnett and Walker both fit that description. Ty Willingham and David Shaw would have. Cutcliffe and Elko did well at Duke too. They do exist.
We got to bowl games in 5 of 6 years (and won 4 straight) going into the signing of that contract
Oregon and USC were not part of the conference and there was no indication at the time of the BIG's foray into getting West Coast assets. when that contract was signed so was not expecting to get paid more than HC at the top programs in the BIG
Stop denigrating other college towns. While the Chicago area may be attractive for some college FB coaches, for a lot of others it is not. And for those attractive qualities you reference there are significant detriments to the job that make it a lot harder to be successful such as admissions, and the administration that looks at FB more as a necessary evil rather than an asset.
He did not have that contract until after he had been HC for 15 years and proven he could get the job done despite the constraints that other programs do not have to deal with
I was at the game on Saturday but then spent the weekend exploring Mississippi and Alabama (interesting places), so I'm arriving to the conversation late.
Saturday was an unmitigated disaster on and apparently off the field with uniform-gate. The team looked positively awful. Having said that...Tulane is also projected to win its conference and early projections have them in the playoffs - they are a good team; only time will tell how good.
To the naysayers, I would simply say/ask: do you want to be right or do you want to be happy? There are 11 games left. You can beat a drum loudly that Braun has to go - and for the record, I am not inherently averse to his dismissal if the team continues to look as bad as it did on Saturday...but I am certainly rooting for improvement.
What I would honestly ask of fellow NU fans here, at the risk of sounding like a blind and deaf polyanna: give him five more games - half a season. Calling for doomsday now on the public board and essentially rooting for it does none of us any good.
With this new era of college football...it's very gross to me that Northwestern is now a program where fans are calling for the head coach to be fired one game into his second actual season of hire, and that we'll get our pitchforks out about individual players when they're 20ish year old millionaires. The whole sport is on fire.
Saturday was an unmitigated disaster on and apparently off the field with uniform-gate. The team looked positively awful. Having said that...Tulane is also projected to win its conference and early projections have them in the playoffs - they are a good team; only time will tell how good.
To the naysayers, I would simply say/ask: do you want to be right or do you want to be happy? There are 11 games left. You can beat a drum loudly that Braun has to go - and for the record, I am not inherently averse to his dismissal if the team continues to look as bad as it did on Saturday...but I am certainly rooting for improvement.
What I would honestly ask of fellow NU fans here, at the risk of sounding like a blind and deaf polyanna: give him five more games - half a season. Calling for doomsday now on the public board and essentially rooting for it does none of us any good.
With this new era of college football...it's very gross to me that Northwestern is now a program where fans are calling for the head coach to be fired one game into his second actual season of hire, and that we'll get our pitchforks out about individual players when they're 20ish year old millionaires. The whole sport is on fire.
I agree with the premise that we should all be rooting for Braun to right the ship; however, the pitchforks are not out because of one game. They are out because of last seasons disaster, the recruiting pipeline liking bleak and the fact that Braun was not ready to be a BIG HC (not his fault).
I hope the team turns it around but if we finish 4-8 again, we need to find a new coach. Every year with this staff we are falling further behind.
Some people may prefer small towns but, stated flatly small towns like those that hist remote colleges are chronically shrinking in population and have been for years and the north shore of Chicago is not. To pretend it isn’t an advantage is silly.