Star Wars: The Last Jedi......

krazykats

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RE: Dearn

Please do not pretend the whole first 6 movies wasn't keeping some secrets from other Jedi most notably Anakin(which in the end is a huge part of why he turned as he felt held back and singled out) and Luke while trying to teach them patience which is a HUGE part of the force.
 

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Some thoughts after processing the film and coming down off of OMG NEW STAR WARS high.


That whole Finn/Oriental Gal storyline has to lead to something in the next film, right? One of those horse **** scooping kids is the next Jedi or something.

And Del Toro’s character has to be some kinda of Han Solo character at some point. We didn’t see him die, so he must still be kicking somewhere.

If that storyline ties VIII and IX together, then it won’t be a complete loss. As long as Rose doesn’t end up being an effing Jedi too ...

Now, my Snoke theory: Rian Johnson didn’t like the character, so he killed him. Seems reasonable.

When Rey went to the darkness pit, or whatever the hell that was, she only saw herself. When Luke went into the thing in Empire (?) he saw himself in Vader’s get up. Rey just saw herself. To me that could mean two things. 1. She really has no inclination to the dark side at all, or B. she is so balanced in the force that she is neither dark nor light, which could make IX very interesting.

CAUTION. OUTLANDISH THEORY AHEAD: I know I just said that I think Snoke is just gone because the director didn’t want the character, but ... my outlandish theory is that Snoke isn’t dead, and he’s Darth Maul. Reasoning: Darth Maul has already been cut in half once. When the lightsaber went through Snoke, it looked to me (I need to watch again) like it went straight through, Kylo pulled it through the front, and then his torso just flopped off. When it did come off, there seems to be some something almost like sparks coming out of both end of Snoke cut though parts. In case you haven’t heard, Empire/First Order docs are good about reattaching things with technology. Just a dumb thought, but you never know.
 

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Rose was this movie's Jar Jar Binks, but I'm not sure anything in the entire franchise has been as cringe-worthy as Luke drinking from that things teats. Unforgivable.

Rian Johnson was given the keys to a Ferrari and then drove it into a wall. It's totaled now.
 

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I think they felt forced into Snoke as a villain too.

Palpatine already explained he was the only person that could save from death, I believe, and in the books it is said he can live in a host body.........but to explain him and get everything else covered that needs to be you'd be in for a 4 hour movie.

Maybe he is just explained in Rogue 2.
 

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Rose was this movie's Jar Jar Binks, but I'm not sure anything in the entire franchise has been as cringe-worthy as Luke drinking from that things teats. Unforgivable.

Rian Johnson was given the keys to a Ferrari and then drove it into a wall. It's totaled now.

That was a bit weird, but Luke since one of his first scenes in the trilogy always drink milk so it kind of tied in the absolute weirdest of ways.
 

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Some thoughts after processing the film and coming down off of OMG NEW STAR WARS high.


That whole Finn/Oriental Gal storyline has to lead to something in the next film, right? One of those horse **** scooping kids is the next Jedi or something.

And Del Toro’s character has to be some kinda of Han Solo character at some point. We didn’t see him die, so he must still be kicking somewhere.

If that storyline ties VIII and IX together, then it won’t be a complete loss. As long as Rose doesn’t end up being an effing Jedi too ...

Now, my Snoke theory: Rian Johnson didn’t like the character, so he killed him. Seems reasonable.

When Rey went to the darkness pit, or whatever the hell that was, she only saw herself. When Luke went into the thing in Empire (?) he saw himself in Vader’s get up. Rey just saw herself. To me that could mean two things. 1. She really has no inclination to the dark side at all, or B. she is so balanced in the force that she is neither dark nor light, which could make IX very interesting.

CAUTION. OUTLANDISH THEORY AHEAD: I know I just said that I think Snoke is just gone because the director didn’t want the character, but ... my outlandish theory is that Snoke isn’t dead, and he’s Darth Maul. Reasoning: Darth Maul has already been cut in half once. When the lightsaber went through Snoke, it looked to me (I need to watch again) like it went straight through, Kylo pulled it through the front, and then his torso just flopped off. When it did come off, there seems to be some something almost like sparks coming out of both end of Snoke cut though parts. In case you haven’t heard, Empire/First Order docs are good about reattaching things with technology. Just a dumb thought, but you never know.

Darth Maul already came back from the dead to appear in Star Wars Rebels which is supposedly considered canon. He was eventually killed yet again by Kenobi. Cant see him coming back again.
 

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Oh and Rey... I actually really love her character. But the last movie I was able to justify her Jedi master abilities with zero training due to heritage/bloodline. The "you can be from anywhere and do anything!" narrative does NOT adequately explain how she was able to do what she did the last movie. I'm counting on a reveal that she's the result of special sperm + egg to justify her abilities, because if she's really from nothing and just naturally that good then what's the point of any of the other movies?

Anakin was the most powerful Jedi alive at one point and he literally came from nothing. He was a slave child who's mother claimed was miraculously conceived with no father. Rey goes into the cave and asks to see her parents and only sees herself. For all we know it could be that a chosen one comes along every hundred years or so but not all get trained. Jedi and Sith have been around for thousands of years, they can't all be related.

But in one of the books, Darth Sidious arranged to have someone forever guarding something that was buried on Jakku. So who knows?
 

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looks like this movie is only going to make a billion......... which is still amazing for a movie to do.......... but they were hoping for 1.5 billion so maybe they'll go back to fan service in episode 9........ after all thats what the fans really want..

The path to fix things with fans and make 2 billion again is..

1. Snoke is an ancient sith but a parasite race...... yep going star gate a little but in this case the majority of fans would be ok with....... yes he's Plageius but Snoke is the name of the host and he likes hiding his true identity after Palpatine betrayed him.

2. Have the Knights of Ren stage a coo on Kylo but then find out it was Snoke that ordered them to... finally revealing to everyone he's a parasite and is now in Hux's body.

3. Kylo and Rey fight side by side again but in order to defeat Snoke he sacrifices himself so she can get in the final force push that throws him into a reactor core

4. Luke as a force ghost tells rey during the middle of the movie that he always wanted a daughter and he's proud of her as if she was...... so in the end she takes on the name Rey Skywalker. Then after he shows up to here right before the credits and says... once again there are two skywalkers... she looks at him like whaaaaa? He says oh... I didnt know either until I became one with the force.......... and cue music.... (in case you missed it ...he said earlier I always wanted a daughter... at the end you find out at that time he knew he had a child meaning the child is a boy... now man)

There ya go lucas film.. dont even have to pay me 1 red cent... take it... even manipulate it to what you want personally but something along those lines would make the butt hurt fans forgive ....
 
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lol.......... I still think it didnt suck. He had his trials and tribulations (Luke) and end the end went back to being the same Luke Skywalker... People are just pissed that their hero had a rough patch in his life and needed someone else to help him get out of it.

I don’t think you understand why people didn’t like the movie. It simply isn’t very good.
 

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I don’t think you understand why people didn’t like the movie. It simply isn’t very good.

This is a movie that a fudge ton of die hard fans would of liked if Luke was his old self from the very beginning and he went with rey and ultimately fought bad guys with his light saber..........

Thats what the masses wanted and not having it is what made the movie bad for many... if it had that everyone would forgive all the other little details they had problems with.
 

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This is a movie that a fudge ton of die hard fans would of liked if Luke was his old self from the very beginning and he went with rey and ultimately fought bad guys with his light saber..........

Thats what the masses wanted and not having it is what made the movie bad for many... if it had that everyone would forgive all the other little details they had problems with.

That’s not it at all WISL, it was dumb.
It didn’t fit at all story wise with the Force Awakens.
There were too many forced real world social issues in it. We go see movies, especially Star Wars movies, to escape the real world.

It were as if Disney was forced to make a trilogy, and they just threw this one together.

It will go down as possibly the worst Star Wars movie. There’s a reason it’s gonna be 200 million behind the force awakens after the second weekend, and it isn’t diehard fans.
 

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That’s not it at all WISL, it was dumb.
It didn’t fit at all story wise with the Force Awakens.
There were too many forced real world social issues in it. We go see movies, especially Star Wars movies, to escape the real world.

It were as if Disney was forced to make a trilogy, and they just threw this one together.

It will go down as possibly the worst Star Wars movie. There’s a reason it’s gonna be 200 million behind the force awakens after the second weekend, and it isn’t diehard fans.

God I would of loved if the movie had a message to dump Trump. that would of been the greatest troll job of all time and sent so many people over the edge
 

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yeah this movie was 20 trillion times better than the phantom menace or attack of the clones....... and only 5 times better than revenge of the sith....

but we're in the right now when there social media is at its peak and the cool thing to do is hate on the popular brands. Mob mentality rules all
 

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God I would of loved if the movie had a message to dump Trump. that would of been the greatest troll job of all time and sent so many people over the edge

There’s no reason to force things in a movie, it’s entertainment, and it takes away from the movie.
 

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yeah this movie was 20 trillion times better than the phantom menace or attack of the clones....... and only 5 times better than revenge of the sith....

but we're in the right now when there social media is at its peak and the cool thing to do is hate on the popular brands. Mob mentality rules all

Its not a good movie Wildcat, there’s no mob mentality to it.
I’ll bet you a dollar to a donut Rian Johnson doesn’t ever get close to another one.
 
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Its not a good movie Wildcat, there’s no mob mentality to it.
I’ll bet you a dollar to a donut Rian Johnson doesn’t ever get close to another one.

A whole lot of die hard fans said the same thing about TFA and what do ya know... JJ is coming back for 9.

The movie is going to make over a billion dollars... something only a dozen or so movies have done....... So saying Johnson wont touch another star wars film is just your wishful thinking. Critics and die hard transformers fans have been crying how bad the transformer movies have been since the first... but 1 billion dollars each movie kept him doing movies
 

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A whole lot of die hard fans said the same thing about TFA and what do ya know... JJ is coming back for 9.

The movie is going to make over a billion dollars... something only a dozen or so movies have done....... So saying Johnson wont touch another star wars film is just your wishful thinking. Critics and die hard transformers fans have been crying how bad the transformer movies have been since the first... but 1 billion dollars each movie kept him doing movies

Thanks China
 

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Bill what is you wanted to see? Luke come in and kick ***? I never thought he was a good fighter really.

I guess I have another excuse to rewatch 4-5-6 and TFA.
 
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God I would of loved if the movie had a message to dump Trump. that would of been the greatest troll job of all time and sent so many people over the edge
Well stupid for this discussion had to arrive sometime, congrats you have won that award for this thread.
 

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yeah this movie was 20 trillion times better than the phantom menace or attack of the clones....... and only 5 times better than revenge of the sith....

but we're in the right now when there social media is at its peak and the cool thing to do is hate on the popular brands. Mob mentality rules all
With this response it is obvious you have no clue. May the farce be with you always.
 

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With this response it is obvious you have no clue. May the farce be with you always.
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Midichlorians...... child anakin..... jar jar


Nothing in this movie comes close to how cringe worthy those were..... broom kid might of gotten there if he was in the film more than the 35 seconds he was actually in it
 

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Bill what is you wanted to see? Luke come in and kick ***? I never thought he was a good fighter really.

I guess I have another excuse to rewatch 4-5-6 and TFA.

Had nothing to do with Luke Skywalker. The movie was a mess.

Watch TFA, it feels like a Star Wars movie.
The last Jedi didn’t, it felt like it was hurried and Disney knew the name alone would make a ton of money.
 

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Midichlorians...... child anakin..... jar jar


Nothing in this movie comes close to how cringe worthy those were..... broom kid might of gotten there if he was in the film more than the 35 seconds he was actually in it

Rose, whatever the Laura Derns character was, wicked witch of the west in space,
Yoda for Christ’s sake, Luke drinking straight from the teet, KR and Rey mind swapping, the casino, Finn and Rey dynamic completely missing from Awakens, and on and on.
 

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Had nothing to do with Luke Skywalker. The movie was a mess.

Watch TFA, it feels like a Star Wars movie.
The last Jedi didn’t, it felt like it was hurried and Disney knew the name alone would make a ton of money.

I agree some of the storylines were not there, but the story they wanted to tell is........if they hit the next one right this one could make a lot more sense.

And it can be very very simple! It does not have to be some mad genius unraveling of conspiracy theories, but i understand this one did not either.

The only thing I wish had happened that didn’t was that snoke was not killed and he was the main enemy next movie too, to allow more time for that storyline to take place.
 

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Rose, whatever the Laura Derns character was, wicked witch of the west in space,
Yoda for Christ’s sake, Luke drinking straight from the teet, KR and Rey mind swapping, the casino, Finn and Rey dynamic completely missing from Awakens, and on and on.

You lose massive cred by saying yoda. Even people who hated the film all agree that was old trilogy yoda and one cool thing about the movie
 
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