Start Nwuli!!

seansherm

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He’s not the answer. He couldn’t even play servicable D at the Patriot level. Might have a few lights out shooting games but it’s unlikely he develops into a consistent regular rotational piece. Zrno has gotten enough run to see that he’s just slow which is rate omitting at his position. His ceiling on D in my opinion is Oskar level, but Oskar was also bigger than him and didn’t need to guard 2s.

It’s not a given that the other frosh will help us more this year, but he’s the only one where I’ve seen this. The other guys struggle with the typical frosh confusion and are out of position a lot (especially Powers right now), but none of them seem physically limited to me. Denis isn’t quick but he’s also not unplayable in part because he’s taller and stronger than Zrno.
By the time he left Oskar was one of our better/smarter defenders, but yes different positions.
 

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By the time he left Oskar was one of our better/smarter defenders, but yes different positions.
Yes - but after how many seasons of development? Zrno’s defense does not look to be fixable this season and he’s not big enough to guard a forward so not having the speed to cover guards is a big problem. Seriously massive. He’s also a poor ball handler for a guard so that combines for a pretty bad combination to make a case for PT on a BIG team.
 

seansherm

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Yes - but after how many seasons of development? Zrno’s defense does not look to be fixable this season and he’s not big enough to guard a forward so not having the speed to cover guards is a big problem. Seriously massive. He’s also a poor ball handler for a guard so that combines for a pretty bad combination to make a case for PT on a BIG team.
I wouldn't disagree with any of that. I do think he has a quick release which you didn't agree with somewhere. Per 40 his numbers aren't all that dissimilar from Badalau.
 

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I wouldn't disagree with any of that. I do think he has a quick release which you didn't agree with somewhere. Per 40 his numbers aren't all that dissimilar from Badalau.

I don’t see a quick release from either of the Euros. Denis is just bigger so he’s able to play positions that don’t require playing defense on a guard.

Besides having a quick, high release point, Francis also shoots a high clip of 3s off dribble penetration either in transition or where he creates space with a step back the way Geo used to. While overall those shots are not as efficient as say open deep wing shots, success with them should have little bearing on his height because they aren’t the types of shots that are prone to being blocked or altered by a close out defender. Zrno is exclusively a catch and shoot player. He doesn’t have other tools at any level - never mind high major.
 

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I’d like to see more of what Zrno can do. Against our toughest opponent (TN) he showed flashes, not all in garbage time, and was our leading scorer with 14 points in 25 minutes of PT, 3-5 from three and 5-7 on FTs, with 2 rebounds and only 1 turnover.
 
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I’d like to see more of what Zrno can do. Against our toughest opponent (TN) he showed flashes, not all in garbage time, and was our leading scorer with 14 points in 25 minutes of PT, 3-5 from three and 5-7 on FTs, with 2 rebounds and only 1 turnover.

Really? He has 8 field goals on the entire season and all of them were catch and shoot 3s. Three of them in that Tenn game andwhether garbage time or not, isn’t that relevant to “what he can do” because regardless of competition, literally every one of his baskets was the same - catch and shoot 3. He doesn’t seem to get phased by a close out defender - I’ll give him that for sure. But it seems pretty clear to me that we’ve seen “what he can do” on offense and it’s restricted to catch and shoot. It’s not like he hasn’t had opportunities. His FT attempts in the TN game were bonus shots I think - not off shot attempts. If he was able to penetrate or score in other ways he’d have more than 5 two point shot attempts recorded on the season. He's yet to make a 2 point FG.
 

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Do not see the excessive love for Francis and the harsh criticism of Zrno. Francis has shown some scoring ability but that will be neutralized in conference. He shoots way too much and never passes enough . Dylan was posted 5 times in the last game and he never passed once. He doesn’t pass to Manny on the pick and role. He does want to make sure he gets his shots up regardless of it is a good or bad shot. His height will be an issue defensively.
Zrno has some work to do defensively but you do not just dismiss your second best 3 point shooter after Dylan and sit him down. If our offense is working properly and Dylan and Buchanan are driving and they get picked up or stopped , a 3 point kickout is there and you would want Zrno to shoot it.
We cannot play Davis and Francis together in conference as their height will hurt us as will their defense. I think bringing Francis off the bench at the 13 minute mark is a better solution as he can then be the scorer he wants to be when Dylan comes out for a breather. He will get his shots in there and hopefully this avoids scoring draughts that we will have. Even if he is not efficient , scoring some points helps. He is a good foul shooter so if he can get fouled better yet.
 
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Would be surprised if Nwuli or Buchanan is not starting in place of Denis tomorrow night

I also think Francis off the bench is a good idea just don’t trust Zrno defensively, and neither does the staff
 

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I’d like to see more of what Zrno can do. Against our toughest opponent (TN) he showed flashes, not all in garbage time, and was our leading scorer with 14 points in 25 minutes of PT, 3-5 from three and 5-7 on FTs, with 2 rebounds and only 1 turnover.
Its a fair point. I havent been impressed with him at all yet everyone here just glossing over he was out best player vs Tennessee

I sense Lino and Nwuli will have a really difficult time vs the level of competition in the next 2. Even with his erratic play I expect alot of Buchanan the next 2
 
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PSAL_Hoops

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Its a fair point. I havent been impressed with him at all yet everyone here just glossing over he was out best player vs Tennessee

I sense Lino and Nwuli will have a really difficult time vs the level of competition in the next 2. Even with his erratic play I expect alot of Buchanan the next 2

Probably because we’ve played 8 games and he’s scored a total of 8 field goals. 3 of them coming in that game which was a blow out loss. In 7 other games he’s shooting under 30% on the season from 3 and 0% from 2. That’s horrible.

Now its not a big sample yet, so it wouldn’t be thT big deal except that he also looks bad in so many other areas. He doesn’t look playable on defense, can’t handle the ball well when pressured and has not shown an ability to score the ball in any other ways besides catch and shoot 3s (considering this - being below 30% on those is a problem). And he’s only like 64% on FTs. So it’s not exactly a great combo right now.
 

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Do not see the excessive love for Francis and the harsh criticism of Zrno. Francis has shown some scoring ability but that will be neutralized in conference. He shoots way too much and never passes enough . Dylan was posted 5 times in the last game and he never passed once. He doesn’t pass to Manny on the pick and role. He does want to make sure he gets his shots up regardless of it is a good or bad shot. His height will be an issue defensively.
Zrno has some work to do defensively but you do not just dismiss your second best 3 point shooter after Dylan and sit him down. If our offense is working properly and Dylan and Buchanan are driving and they get picked up or stopped , a 3 point kickout is there and you would want Zrno to shoot it.
We cannot play Davis and Francis together in conference as their height will hurt us as will their defense. I think bringing Francis off the bench at the 13 minute mark is a better solution as he can then be the scorer he wants to be when Dylan comes out for a breather. He will get his shots in there and hopefully this avoids scoring draughts that we will have. Even if he is not efficient , scoring some points helps. He is a good foul shooter so if he can get fouled better yet.

For the avoidance of doubt, Francis is currently shooting the exact same percentage from 3 as Zrno on higher volume. So I’m not sure why it’s a given Zrno is the second best outside shooter on the team or why you or anyone thinks Zrno should be taking those shots over him. I think you just want him to be better based on preseason expectiom - we all did. but even Pike has said Denis was the one shooting lights out in practices - not Zrno. Maybe he will turn out to be the next coming of Cam Spencer but so far we’re just not seeing that. Zrno has to make 3s at a significantly higher clip than Francis to replace him in the line up.